Jewish women not qualified for testimony in court?

NichtnurBibelleser
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It seems a commonplace in commentaries on the empty tomb (e.g. Mk 16,1-9), that Jewish women were excluded from giving testimony as a witness in official trials.

But I cannot find any precise OT passage for this, even employing Smart Search.

Could someone give me a hint?

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,013
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    A Smart Search provided some useful pointers for me - including a link to Josephus

  • DMB
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    edited January 15 Answer ✓

    Mishnah  - Tractate Shevuot 4:1  and derived Sifre 17

    And an interesting discussion:  https://www.sefaria.org/Rereading_the_Rabbis%3B_A_Woman's_Voice%2C_9_Testimony?lang=bi

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

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  • DMB
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    The Sifra appears to be the earliest indirect mention.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,013
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    A Smart Search provided some useful pointers for me - including a link to Josephus

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 446 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, @Graham Criddle! I didn't phrase the search with "give testimony". Even if I enter exactly your search query, I see some different results, pointing to Josephus, though.

    Still, if this (A.J. 4.219) is the only or primary reference, it seems a bit thin against the way how the non-testimony is treated.

  • DMB
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    Depends on how far back you view the Mishnah.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 446 ✭✭✭

    Would you be so kind to be a bit more precise? I own a printed german version of the Babylonic Talmud (which actually is in pre-pub in Logos, so I can't add it to my Print Books), and in Strack/Billerbeck I don't find a talmudic reference.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,066 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15 Answer ✓

    Mishnah  - Tractate Shevuot 4:1  and derived Sifre 17

    And an interesting discussion:  https://www.sefaria.org/Rereading_the_Rabbis%3B_A_Woman's_Voice%2C_9_Testimony?lang=bi

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,569

    If you put a space after an internet link, it will become an active link. https://www.sefaria.org/Rereading_the_Rabbis%3B_A_Woman%27s_Voice%2C_9_Testimony?lang=bi