Microsoft is discontinuing support for Windows 10 on October 14, 2025

Be careful with adhering to that advice (upgrading an unsupported PC to Windows 11) unless you are a tech geek willing to invest the time.

If you upgrade an “incompatible” Windows 10 PC to Windows 11 using workarounds, just from my minimal research there are very real risks and potential issues to consider - even if there are workarounds today:

•Security Updates: Microsoft has stated that unsupported PCs may not receive security updates, though in practice, many still do. However, there’s no guarantee that this will continue.

•Feature Updates: Major Windows 11 feature updates (e.g., 23H2, 24H2) might require reapplying workarounds or may not install at all.

•Driver Updates: Some drivers may not be available for Windows 11 if your hardware is older.

•Random Crashes or Bugs: If your hardware lacks officially supported drivers, you might encounter instability, crashes, or unexpected behavior.

•Reduced Performance: Older CPUs may struggle with Windows 11 optimizations, leading to lower performance compared to Windows 10.

•Missing Features: Some security features like VBS (Virtualization-Based Security) and HVCI (Hypervisor-Protected Code Integrity) might not work correctly on unsupported hardware.

•No Support from Microsoft: If you run into issues, Microsoft won’t provide official support since your system doesn’t meet the requirements.

•App Compatibility: Some future applications or features may enforce compatibility checks, blocking certain functions on unsupported devices.

•If you ever need to reset or reinstall Windows 11, you may have to go through the upgrade process again manually, since official installation methods will still detect your PC as unsupported.

IMHO - buying a Windows 11 PC is the only realistic choice for most.

Never, ever! 😉

Not if you want a Proper Computer 😁

I’m so glad I switched to a Mac Book Pro 3 years ago! It runs smooth and no constant updates every week!

DAL

True. And then it's a forceful onboarding from an older product to a newer one.
Where I come from we call that a scam.
The thing stopping me from Linux is software compatibility. There's nothing that can be done about that. And Apple Mac's are not computers. They are large overly priced heavily marketed smartphones (no offence).

Have people not connected the dots? That windows updates are mandatory. That Windows requires an incredible investment to develop but is free. That the USA, which has the big five tech giants, banned Kaspersky but not Tiktok.

@ASUNDER: "And Apple Mac's are not computers. They are large overly priced heavily marketed smartphones (no offence)."

Ha ha you have a lot to learn about what goes on outside your bubble! (no offense)

from all that have been using Logos, I am mainly a mobile user, but want to start investing in laptop to make use of Logos Desktop. Between Mac and Windows which one of these will Logos be supported the longest. I don’t want to get a new laptop every 3 years or so. All advice will be appreciated.

As for me, I will be paying for the security updates, most likely.

That doesn't extend your Logos support though (and likely support for other software packages than you might own.)

IMHO with the caveat that we never know what's around the corner with technology, you would have equal certainty of either a Windows or Apple laptop being supported the longest. I use both technologies - a lot.

Logos ties their support to the OSes being supported by Apple and Microsoft. I did some checking, right now the oldest Apple computer model currently supported to run macOS Sequoia (current version of MacOS) is the iMac Pro, which was released in December 2017 - over 7 years ago, and no sign of anything happening in the Apple world to stop support of it in the next year.

Microsoft is a slightly different story right now. MS did something very unusual for them, cutting off about 50% of their installed base of computers from officially moving from Windows 10 to 11 - as @Mark Barnes (Logos) OP explained. I have worked professionally with Windows since 1.0, and arguably other than the move to Windows 3.0 in May 1990, support for PCs has typically been in the same 7-8 year timeframe as with Apple, give or take. That Windows 3.0 upgrade required a major hardware boost, with corresponding driver and app upgrade issues. It was quite ugly.

The one exception to this 7-8 year timeframe in the Windows world - if you go that route, get a PC from a reputable manufacturer. Cheap or unknown peripheral manufacturers could cause your PC to be obsolete much earlier. Many PCs have third party disk controllers, video cards, etc. etc. - quickly-obsolete hardware and keeping drivers up to date could be the reason your PC does not last.

So IMHO you can probably count on 7-8 years with either a reputable Windows or Apple PC. Logos will support their bible software running on it, if Apple/MS do. So choose your next computer based on price/performance, display, weight (if you'll move around with it), sother software, your comfort level, and performance per watt - two computers could have the same performance but one uses a whole lot more energy, hence battery life is less (if a laptop), with heat issues, early wear and tear on electronics, and performance throttling.

@Kevin Houghtaling

Why do you say that one should consider the M3 if there is an M1 and M2 version. If you could explain in some more depth so that I can make a better decision, as funds are a bit short and can't afford the top notch stuff.

support for PCs has typically been in the same 7-8 year timeframe as with Apple, give or take.

I just looked up the invoice for the PC I'm in the process of decommissioning: 9 years ago, custom built all with brand components. Fast 3.2 GHz CPU, 500 GB SSD, and for the time whopping 16 GB of RAM. Less than S$ 1000 in total. I had to upgrade the SSD multiple times over time, since it's way too small for today's requirements, but that's the advantage of PCs. Upgrading single components is very easy.

All my software still runs reasonably smoothly on that device, including video editing. I'd gladly keep it if it weren't for the Win 11 hardware requirements. But 9 years is an excellent life span for a PC, and it might even receive a second life as some nerd's Linux device.

Now here's something for Win 10 purists:

How to make Windows 11 look like Windows 10 | PCWorld

One other thought - if you have not used either a Windows or Apple computer much before, or at all - what kind of phone or tablet do you have? If you have an iPhone or iPad and are comfortable with it, you will find getting used to an Apple computer much easier than a Windows PC. If you have not used an Apple device before, I would say either will have a similar up-to-speed time. Although, I will say the macOS user interface is also probably more consistent, as it's a more integrated hardware-software environment with apps that also have to be approved by Apple for user interface guidelines, security, etc. etc. - so if you know how apps work, learning a new one is pretty easy.

The issue has not come up here yet, but probably will. Those who make the decision to go with Windows 11 will also have to choose between Intel and the new ARM version of Windows. At this point in time, Logos is not supporting the ARM version of Windows.

@Lukas If I were you, I'd go with the 70%-ers (Windows/Android worldwide), especially if you don't live in the States and your funds are limited. Personally, I dislike Apple (even though my first IT job was with an Apple Macintosh in the 80's!) so I'd not consider Apple, but it's really personal preference in the end.

@Lukas there is no doubt in my mind that:

1. Both the desktop and mobile (and web version for that matter) of Logos will continue to grow in power and function;
2. The Mobile version will continue to grow closer to what the desktop version offers TODAY - but by then the desktop will be even more powerful tomorrow. The mobile version has continued to grow in power and function as the mobile platform devices have advanced in their technology.
3. The desktop version will grow as well, especially as technology advances.
4. The mobile version will never be equal to the desktop version in power or function, unless mobile devices become more powerful technology platforms - and that does not look even remotely possible due to advantages in size. A bigger device can support more powerful electronics, more storage, better cooling, more power, and more.

So that said - if you want the best Logos offers, go for the desktop + iPhone. The desktop will always be the flagship for feature and function imho.