Panel Linking: Add "Follow Only" Option for Link Set

Philip Pierce
Philip Pierce Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited January 22 in English Feedback

It would be great to be able to use link sets in the desktop app without having other resources changing the Bible verse while scrolling. It is especially problematic with multiple commentaries since it causes a ripple effect.
The new Logos 10 Mobile App has this feature and would love to also have it on the desktop app too. Thank you!

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  • Henrik Guldager Andersen
    Henrik Guldager Andersen Member Posts: 25 ✭✭✭
    edited January 22

    Option to link books A,B,C,D etc. as lead only or follow only

  • cyber4eyes
    cyber4eyes Member Posts: 8
    Let us set one Bible panel as "focus" no matter what we do in other panels. Scrolling down a bit in a different tab's panel forces the Bible panel to change. Stop that! We need to be able to review info in a different panel without changing the open Bible panel.
  • Jesse Freeman
    Jesse Freeman Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited January 22

    I’ve been using the follow feature, particularly “follow only” with commentaries, and it’s been helpful. One point of frustration, however, is that highlighting also applies to the follow only. As this seems to be predominantly used for bible and commentary, there are times I want to highlight my bible but not my commentary and vice versa, but I don’t want to have to keep disabling then enabling the follow. It would be helpful to either make it where follow only doesn’t highlight both or give an additional option to not highlight along with what it’s linked to.

  • Ali Pope
    Ali Pope Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,821
    edited January 22
    @Jesse Freeman  To confirm, when you highlight a verse in a Bible without having a commentary linked with "Follow only", that highlight does not get applied to the commentary?

    Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager

  • Jesse Freeman
    Jesse Freeman Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited January 22
    Sorry if I wasn't clear. My thought is that it should not highlight the commentary if you have "Follow Only" selected. That feature seems to be advertised predominantly for a commentary along with a Bible, and it's rare that you want to simultaneously highlight a verse and then the large corresponding commentary section on that passage. It makes more sense to highlight both if it's a full link. But "Follow Only" should give you the option of following without sharing highlights. Thanks!
  • Jesse Freeman
    Jesse Freeman Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited January 22
    @Ali Pope  I realized that it’s not the follow feature that shares the highlight. It’s having the Bible and commentary open at the same time either by splitting or in different tabs. If they are both open in the same layout, they share highlights. Not sure if this is a feature or a bug, but it’s frustrating nonetheless. I don’t always want to highlight my commentary and bible the same, but I do want to have them share a screen so that I can read them together. I am using an iPad, but I believe it does the same on mobile.
  • Yes! I loved this feature when I discovered it on mobile. Was disappointed when I tried to do the same on desktop and feature is missing there.
  • Jerry T
    Jerry T Member Posts: 143 ✭✭
    Thank you for submitting this.  I am coming over from Accordance and holding down the command key allows you to you scroll freely through a linked pane without your text following or vice-versa.  So a hotkey or the actual "Follow Only" setting would be great!
  • Philip Pierce
    Philip Pierce Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    @Jerry Trevino  Thank you for mentioning the shortcut.  When I use Accordance, I was linking and unlinking each pane manually.  That'll save me a lot of time.  I think having both a hotkey and permanent "Follow Only" setting would be nice
  • This would be a great feature to have on the desktop. Please consider adding it.
  • tjebme
    tjebme Member Posts: 193 ✭✭✭
    Agree that adding this as an option would be great! Bringing the option for parity between the mobile app and desktop app for this feature would simplify the user experience for those who are heavy users of the mobile app relative to the desktop app
  • Nathan M Hall
    Nathan M Hall Member Posts: 28 ✭✭
    Totally agree. This is closely related to another issue that I think Logos could address in tandem to this one: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/new-auto-mode-to-automatically-link-all-panels
  • PLEASE add this feature in the desktop version. It drives me crazy when I look ahead in a commentary or other non-Bible resource and it jumps my Bible around.
  • Jeffrey Gardner
    Jeffrey Gardner Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    This along with the auto-linking discussed here: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/new-auto-mode-to-automatically-link-all-panels would be a great addition to desktop app happiness.

    "Ever learning and always adding to my knowledge of the Truth"
    "Worship God for who he is;  Praise God for what he has done."

  • Joshua Steele
    Joshua Steele Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    edited November 2024
    When panels are linked, please add a setting to make one panel "follow only". Ex.: Link a Bible and a commentary, but set the commentary to follow the Bible, but the Bible will not follow the commentary. This way, we can keep our place in the Bible panel even if we navigate around in the commentary panel.
    Thank you!
  • Pretty please -- from The Bereans Against Jumping Bible Syndrome Foundation
  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭
    Great idea! Had something like this in WordSearch. Miss it.

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Jim Dean
    Jim Dean Member Posts: 314 ✭✭✭
    ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. "Inconthievable"(sic) that Mobile has this and Desktop doesn't!  Example:  Bible in tab 1 ... forty other tabs with Study Bibles or Complete Commentaries ... the forty should auto-move with tab 1 does, BUT moving in any one of the forty should NOT move any of the others.

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    Jim Dean

  • Henrik Guldager Andersen
    Henrik Guldager Andersen Member Posts: 25 ✭✭✭
    Yes, please add more tab management options.
  • Rob Dekker
    Rob Dekker Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    please add this, it works great on the mobile app!
  • Yes please, Follow Only on Desktop.
  • Bryan Mistele
    Bryan Mistele Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    We absolutely need this!  It works great in the mobile app.  The desktop app REALLY needs this.
  • David
    David Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    Logos, this is an essential feature. Frankly, it's shocking that it has taken Logos this long to fix this missing feature. It works great in the mobile app.  #Bryan Mistele "The desktop app REALLY NEEDS THIS." Logos please help us! Thank you in advance ツ 
  • Scott Brady
    Scott Brady Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2024
    Can the PC version be set to follow only like on the phone? I don't want my Bible to follow.
  • Ali Pope
    Ali Pope Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,821
    @Scott Brady  The follow-only functionality has not made it to Desktop for now. 

    Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager

  • Yes please! Very necessary. Logos Mobile, Tree, and Accordance all have this. If the Logos desktop is the flagship logos software with “all the features” it needs this essential feature.
  • I strongly agree that this would be a great feature on the desktop version, to have the option to "follow only" -- as is possible on the Android app. I, too, am frustrated when scrolling through a linked commentary. Please include this feature on desktop.
  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,459
    I agree with the previous comments. This is the #1 feature I am looking forward to on desktop.
  • David
    David Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    Not sure why this one is taking so long. It is a no brainer. Definitely needed! Like Aaron said above: This is the #1 feature I am looking forward to on desktop. 
  • Great idea.  That feature would certainly help.
  • David
    David Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    edited November 2024
    1) Logos needs a FOLLOW ONLY option for commentaries. (just like the mobile version has had for YEARS.) Everyone wants / needs this basic function.

    2) Logos needs an option to open a tab (Bible, commentary, etc) on the left or right side. Keyboard shortcuts for opening a new Bible tab (or commentary, etc) are useless if you have to then move the new tab to the right place.
  • I've had to unlink all my study bible notes from Bibles because of unintended reference jumps when I click in the study bible notes. "Follow only" is wonderful in the mobile app , and would be a perfect solution for this problem on the desktop. 
  • John Daniel Glass
    John Daniel Glass Member Posts: 3
    Yes, it becomes frustrating especially in large print like I have because the wheel on my mouse needs to scroll down the commentary to read, while the place in my bible goes sometimes 2 chapters ahead making it time consuming to find my place where I left off. If the mobile app has it, (thank you) why is it not a feature in the desktop where we do most of our studying? Thank you for considering. 
  • Bryan Mistele
    Bryan Mistele Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    I don't understand why this isn't a Pri 1 for Logos.  This works great on mobile.  I have no explanation for why they don't enable this on the desktop where it is even more important.
  • tjebme
    tjebme Member Posts: 193 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2024
  • tjebme
    tjebme Member Posts: 193 ✭✭✭
    edited January 22

    Please add the Follow Only option for links to the desktop. I use this option all the time on the mobile version. While I use Multiview in my desktop layouts, this is not a sufficient substitute for the Follow Only option—it's complentary (both Multiview and Follow Only are necessary in my opinion). I find myself having to turn off a link for a resource in my layout and then turn the link for the resource back on as a poor person's substitute for Follow Only.

    Follow Only option in mobile app:

    P.S. I would have thought this would already have been a feedback item, but the Search option on the website didn't show me an existing item for this

  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭
    edited January 22

    I've never set up a link set in my iPad app, so I never knew this was a thing before seeing this. Yes, please bring this to the desktop app!

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 976
    edited January 22

    I would love to see this come to desktop!

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 830 ✭✭✭
    edited January 22

    I can’t believe it’s not butter, I mean I can’t believe it’s not on the desktop.

    👁️ 👁️

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,746
    edited January 22

    Because multi-view performs much the same function but in a different manner, I suspect this requires greater user interest than if the feature was entirely missing.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 830 ✭✭✭
    edited January 22

    OK if there’s only two things you do today, make this the other one 🤣

    👁️ 👁️

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,746
    edited January 22

    I am puzzled by this. Mind you I don't use the mobile app but this should be controlled by whether the note is applied to selection or reference just as it is on the desktop. It shouldn't be tied to the display choices.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Bryan Mistele
    Bryan Mistele Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    edited January 22

    PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. This is my biggest frustration with Logos - if you're studying a passage, you don't want the passage to scroll when you're scrolling down to read the commentary. PLEASE implement this.

  • Rachelle Anne
    Rachelle Anne Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Is there still no update on this in 2025?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,746

    While waiting for Logos to (perhaps) implement this feature remember that the multiview panel was Logos response to meeting this need.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Bryan Mistele
    Bryan Mistele Member Posts: 19 ✭✭

    Multiview and follow-only are not the same thing. Imagine you have a half-a-dozen or more commentaries you like (which most of us do). You're preparing a sermon based on a text passage and you want to see what each commentary has to say on a particular passage. This seems like the core use-case for Logos.

    Multiview can only show a few commentaries before the screen gets way too crowded and you continually have to change what Multiview is showing (at least 5+ mouse clicks plus scrolling). Follow-only would solve this and it seems like such a trivial thing to implement for such an important use-case.