Please pre-order Reading the Bible Badly: How American Christians Misunderstand and Misuse their Scr
Why do you need to pre-order this? (1) Because I just discovered I could not add my copy to my print library because the Logos version is still in pre-pub. (2) Because it includes an interesting lectionary (WBL) which has as a goal to be more complete than the RCL when viewed from a Sunday's only perspective (3) Because it shows a variety of errors based on quite different reasons - everyone will find something that the book forces them to correct their poor habits and everyone will find something that will make them very defensive and force one to examine their assumptions - sometimes to reaffirm, sometimes to require further thought. So please, let's get this into production.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Done - I assume we Aussies make similar mistakes to our American cousins ;-)
Pastor Glenn Crouch
St John's Lutheran Church
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I pre-ordered this years ago, and it was never getting funded. So, I took it off my pre-order list. Looks like it may get funded, so I'll try again.
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How does pre order work? Is it like a GoFundMe?
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ok
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Sort of … they do a guess, as to development costs, and then let customers indicate interest by ordering (but not charging). But 'passing Go' (enough orders) only moves the needle a little. Actual development is a more complicated equation … contracts, staff time, company direction, etc. Could be years … could be never.
And sometimes, they just 'do it'.
Amazon's prepub is closer to 'it's coming' … break open the piggy-bank.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Can anyone provide the table of contents for this book? Could not find it on Amazon or Christianbooks.com
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Oh. You would think if they need confidence in consumer interest (to not waste their time doing it) then a wishlist would be enough data for that, but ok. I wonder what's the standard rate of adding to wishlist and then actually buying the item.
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Done — had not heard of this one but it looks interesting.
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In my case, wishlist would be a lot less accurate. I put things on my wishlist for reasons like "if this ever goes on a deep enough sale, I'll buy it" or "I don't want to buy this now, but I'll keep it on my radar and maybe get it eventually". Prepubs for me are more like Logos asking, "If we added this book to Logos for $12, would you buy it?" and if it is in fact something I would buy at the stated price if it were available, I pre-order it.
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I'm in on this one.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Done. 👍️
Bohuslav
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It is getting very close - a few more pre-orders and we'll be over the top.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I would have already pitched in but I had dumped all my cash into the other sales already.
Two more weeks from now, if it's still not funded by then.0 -
If you put in a pre-order today, you will not have to pay until the product actually ships. Even if it changes from "gathering interest" to "in production" today, I wouldn't expect the book shipping (and all pre-orderers needing the funds) in 2025. Moreover, shipping - and billing - will be pre-announced by mail and you could then cancel your pre-order if cash is too tight.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Jan has provided the table of contents. The preview of the introduction section of the Amazon Kindle book explains that the book focuses on the "lenses" that we read the Bible through.
Here is an excerpt from the Kindle preview (note that the bullet point marks were removed by the forum):
This book is about the lenses we use to read Scripture, especially those lenses that lead us to read the Bible badly. The maladjusted lenses I will discuss are common to American Christianity.
These lenses lead American Christians . . .
to read the Bible’s stories and instruction unaware of their historical and cultural settings, disregarding the testimony of their spiritual ancestors, and finding mostly a mirror image of their own values and selves in Scripture;
to insist that the Bible must be the "inerrant word of God," historically factual in every way and doctrinally infallible, overlooking so much of what makes Scripture beautiful and relevant;
to follow a lectionary that dices and splices Scripture into bite-size morsels for Sunday worship, divorces passages from their biblical settings, strikes verses deemed offensive, and undermines the literary artistry that is the lifeblood of Scripture’s profound revelation;
to read the Bible in fear, warping its witness to Jesus and tragically neglecting Scripture’s ever-persistent call to compassion, hospitality, and love;
to read the Bible looking for simple rules that affirm our sense of right and wrong, while missing the point of what true righteousness is about;
to read the Bible as agents of heterosexual male privilege, using its enculturated patriarchy as a license to deny women’s gifts and their call to leadership in the church, and to discriminate against members of LGBTQIA+ communities.
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@Jan Krohn Thanks for the table of contents. I will start including Google Books when I'm researching info.
@Rick Thanks for the lens summaries. This is very helpful!
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Just preordered it.
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I couldn't figure out why the Amazon price for this book was so much more money.
Oh ya, that's cause they have a Canadian website. While Logos doesn't have any Canadian prices.So when something is "on sale" for you, it's not for me.
I'm paying more money when it's on sale than you pay when it's not.
Basically everything I've bought off of FaithLife has been on sale but I have yet to pay a sale price.Brutal.
Then how is that different from a wishlist? As I already mentioned before, but got no response.
When a company can see many people have a book on their wishlist, that is the same thing as "showing interest".
It's literally in the name: "I wish that I had these books that are in this list."
So a "Pre Order" where you don't actually order anything is literally a Wishlist entry, just by a different name.0 -
Then how is that different from a wishlist?
A preorder is automatically delivered and charged when it is released. A wishlist item you must move to the cart and purchase at a timing of your choice. IIRC preorders cannot be on a wishlist - only things already available.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Alright. I guess that's enough of a difference to justify its existence.
What would be nice is also having the wishlist button for these preorders. For people who want to bookmark something interesting, but not commit to it yet.
You can cancel if you change your mind? Ok but I wouldn't have to worry about that if my mind hasn't decided on it anyway. And telling a seller you want to buy something but then pull out of that promise later is pretty rude.0 -
Interesting looking book. I'm in.
Hopefully it will go over the top shortly.
Thanks for mentioning it @MJ. Smith
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