Direct Dictionary

ASUNDER · 2025-03-18T11:40:53+00:00

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I set it up so when I double click a word it jumps to the dictionary definition of it.
But if I manually try to define a word by typing it out in search it doesn't work. It finds the word in the content of the book, not just fetching the word. That's no good. We have to use the table of contents to manually find words.

Can you give us a 'dictionary define-word' search box please.

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Aaron Hamilton

Search appears to be working as expected in your screenshot. Perhaps "Find" (Ctrl+F) would meet your needs better in this scenario?

ASUNDER

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363102#Comment_1363102

The desire is to be able to use the dictionaries in Logos as if we were doing just an internet search. An English dictionary is not the same format as other reference books. Things like Ctrl + F Find is not the tool for this.
So these word dictionaries would have a double use. The current double click = jump to definition. But also a manual search for a word, when we have a word in our head that we want to learn about. The same as if we were typing "define (the word)" into a google search box.

In my example word, "supplication" Google's results would jump me to dictionary definitions. Logos doesn't do this.
While ironically Logos is named Logos and Google is not.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363109#Comment_1363109

I understand better now; thank you. Another thought would be to try the command box or smart search for the result you're looking for. I don't mean to detract from the feature request; just trying to make a suggestion that may be helpful for the time being.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363109#Comment_1363109

Come to think of it, I recall Mark Barnes mentioning once that Smart search currently does not work well within individual books. However, I think exactly that is what would be needed here: the ability to ask a dictionary to define a word. Hopefully, one day it will work well enough to accurately identify material from within a single book. In this case, I think this feature request would be satisfied.

ASUNDER

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363116#Comment_1363116

Ok, thank you.

The ideal scenario is for Logos to be a background helper when not in use; being the moderator for all our text activities. Like defining words, scripture reference pop ups, quick notes, etc.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

We have to use the table of contents to manually find words.

Type into this box to look up words:

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363121#Comment_1363121

Hey, that works great! I was also looking into the "headword:" search extension, which I also find to be very useful. Logos is packed with hidden gems!

ASUNDER

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363121#Comment_1363121

Oh, looks like I was just in the wrong search box, thank you.

Bill

@Bradley Grainger (Logos) Out of curiosity, What happened to the Heading Text option in "search fields"? That is what I would have used for Supplicate in a regular search, but it no longer exists in the options for search fields in inline or regular search.

MJ. Smith

Part of the problem for many users is that they use the term "search" too broadly. If one thinks of it as "looking up" a word in the dictionary, it is "obvious" that one would use the reference box rather than a search. Unfortunately, 6 months of thinking about it has not led me to a solution of the search vs. lookup problem.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363199#Comment_1363199

Well observed. I was stuck on needing to "search" for the answer. I normally associate the reference box with Bibles. Clearly its usefulness stretches further.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Out of curiosity, What happened to the Heading Text option in "search fields"?

It's always been dependent on the tagging that's available in each resource. (Use "Show information" to see this.) If the book doesn't support it, you can't search by it.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363201#Comment_1363201

Pro-tip: in books with Greek or Hebrew headword indexes, you can use g: or h: to untransliterate as you type:

Bill

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363330#Comment_1363330

@Bradley Grainger (Logos) True. However, I would have expected all Logos Type:dictionaries, encyclopedias and lexicons to have head word search capabilities since that is one of the normal ways of searching these resources.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363331#Comment_1363331

Like I said, packed with hidden gems! 😄

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363376#Comment_1363376

Do you have any examples that lack headwords?

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363396#Comment_1363396

He means the "Heading [Text]" search field, not headwords.

Bill

@MJ. Smith and @Bradley Grainger (Logos)The example American Dictionary of the English Language in the OP can not be searched using search field Heading Text and it should be.

My point is,

Certainly one would use the reference box if one is only looking in one dictionary, encyclopedia or Lexicon. But if I were searching for a word such as "Supplicate" in a collection or all of my dictionaries using "heading Text", this dictionary, or any without that search field, would not show in my results.

So, shouldn't this resource have that capability?

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363199#Comment_1363199

Not disagreeing. But using the 'Lookup' on the popup menu or right-click menu, switches 'opponent' to 'adversary' (a forced sense-switch) as it reaches for the FSB (my top prioritized for english). I'd of thought (preferred) it'd reach for my Merriam (2nd priority with unswitched 'opponent'). But not important … the always ignore the Logos switcheroo, and use the right-click > Merriam.

MJ. Smith

I have the popup selection menu turned off but the behavior you describe surprises me. I just tried it on 2 Timothy 2:25 and got Louw-Nida because I have prefer lemmas set. If I turn prefer lemma off, I get the Lexham Bible Dictionary adversary which is the same lemma but the LBD has no entry or visible redirect for opponent. I see why you would expect an English dictionary lookup rather than the acute awareness that this is a Bible text.

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