Bible references in smart searches

Michael Kopesec
Michael Kopesec Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited March 20 in English Suggestions

When I do a "your books" smart search that includes a biblical reference (e.g. "Various interpretations of Mark 11:23"), the search results include any place that "11:23" occurs (e.g. 11:23–25 Rezon. Ironically, David’s victory over the Aramean kingdom of Zobah, situated between the Lebanon and AntiLebanon ranges (2 Sam. 8:3–12; 10), prepared the way for the rise of Damascus, which became a deadly foe to Israel. Following David’s conquest of Zobah, Rezon—who had served its king, Hadadezer—gathered a private army, and “they went…Nations Under God: A Commentary on the Book of 1 Kings, 1 Ki 11:23–25, p 90)

and (e.g. 11:23 The (one) not being witha me is againstb me, and the (one) not gatheringc with me scatters.d LEXICON—a. μετά (LN 90.42) (BAGD A.II.1.c.δ. p. 509): ‘with’ [AB, Arn, BAGD, BECNT, LN, Lns, NTC, WBC; all versions except CEV, NLT, TEV], ‘on the same side’ [LN]. The phrase ‘not being with me’ is translated ‘are not on my side’ [CEV], ‘is not for me’…An Exegetical Summary of Luke 1–11, Lk 11:23, p 512)

My inquiry pertains only to "Mark 11:23, not just "11:23"

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  • Michael Kopesec
    Michael Kopesec Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    The same thing happens with an "All" search.

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭

    Verbum with german UI here. Similar results.

    When I type only "Mk 11,23", a Your Books search switches automatically to Precise and offers 2.390 hits in 1.881 Articles in 326 Works.

    An Overall Smart Search shows a lot of entries, the first ones from The Lexham Syntactic Greek New Testament.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,405
    edited March 20

    I vaguely recall one of Logos' disclaimers on the smart search was that it didn't recognize Bible citations. It is behaving as expected but I would hope at some point in the growth of AI this will be remedied.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Michael Kopesec
    Michael Kopesec Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    My query was: What are the various interpretations of Mark 11:23. The problem is not with AI. None of the AI models I've tested this query on deal with anything other than Mark 11:23; they don't address Mark or 11:23, just the combination Mark 11:23. I've tested it on GPT-4o, o3-mini, Claude-3.7-Sonnet, et al. All recognize it as a Biblical reference, Mark 11:23. So, the problem is not with AI but with how Logos is handling the query.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,405
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363443#Comment_1363443

    I agree. I was trying to say that not recognizing Bible reference is a Logos smart search limitation.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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