New feature (v36): Smart Search Synopsis

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  • Silven Cox
    Silven Cox Member Posts: 1

    I just wanted to chime in and say that Synopsis is an incredible feature! This is a perfect example of how AI can be used ethically and intelligently in an academic setting.

    My ONE bit of feedback, as some others have mentioned, is I think there really should be a way to continue the conversation, much like how you can in ChatGPT and others. There should be an option to open up a chat "window", which continues to draw information from your library.

    Apart from that, this is such a great feature. I know some may say people should do it the "Old fashioned way", but times change. When leveraged properly, tools like Synopsis can save hours and hours of mundane combing through books when trying to find relevant information. With this, we can be taken straight to the relevant info, and put more precious time into actually performing the task. Well done Logos!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,142

    When leveraged properly, tools like Synopsis can save hours and hours of mundane combing through books when trying to find relevant information.

    Yes! And I'm very friendly with the "old fashioned way".

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Top8305
    Top8305 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited January 23

    NoGO: Provide list of Bible verses referencing the Name of God and or the Name of Jesus

    Why doesn't Smart Search provide the list of verses that reference God's Name or Jesus' Name? What am I missing or doing wrong, please?

    Question, in Bible searches from the Books Tab (there doesn't appear to be a Smart Search option in the Bible Tab), will Smart Search utilize metadata and interlinear data?

    Would the highest tier, Max, subscription provide the answer - a complete list of verses referencing the Name of God and or the Name of Jesus?

    Pax Christi

  • Top8305
    Top8305 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    My platform does not provide for Smart Bible Search; is this a feature limited to a Max subscription? Thanks for the assist!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

    My platform does not provide for Smart Bible Search; is this a feature limited to a Max subscription?

    It is not currently available (in any subscription). The examples Mark and Bradley showed above were from internal builds

    We don't know when it will be ready for testing or general release.

  • Top8305
    Top8305 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    Good day. My program settings for double-click should be irrelevant. My point is that the Platform should not use A.I. credit as a default because it is at cost and the subscriber should have command and control over when and how it is employed. Whatever any preference is, A.I. credit usage should not be automatic, but chosen, because it is at cost.

    Pax Christi

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,604

    In a recent webinar, it was announced that Smart Bible Search would be available in v40.0, which should be released on or around Feb. 25th: https://www.bigmarker.com/logos/What-s-New-with-Logos-January-2025?show_live_page=true

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,142

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Top8305
    Top8305 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    NoGO: 2025-02-05

    Query: "what are the bible verses about Ezekiel's vision with Angels"

    What say you, please?

    Pax Christi

  • Top8305
    Top8305 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    Brother, when I double-click on a text to conduct a Look-up function, the Platform automatically performs an A.I. Search, using a credit from my monthly credits, BY DEFAULT (i.e. automatically regardless of whether I want to perform an A.I. Search at credit cost or not.). The subscriber should be able to choose A.I. credit-charging Search or a regular Precise Search, or configure one's Preference in Program Settings.

    Sorry, if that wasn't clear.

    Pax Christi

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

    Query: "what are the bible verses about Ezekiel's vision with Angels"

    The Smart Bible Search - currently in beta - handles this quite well

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004

    The screenshots show that the search was performed in Precise mode. I'm not sure why that was. Did you get any indication you were in Precise mode? Have you run out of AI credits, perhaps?

    In Smart mode, you would have seen something like this:

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,142

    @Top8305 Brother, when I double-click on a text to conduct a Look-up function, the Platform automatically performs an A.I. Search,

    The double-click "Look-up function" performing a Search does not make sense. My double-click does what it says in Program Settings (i.e. a Look-up) and I have to perform a Triple-click for a Search.

    On opening, your Search panel may perform a Smart Search (I don't know), but if you switch to Precise it will use that mode thereafter. I recommend you have a Search panel as part of your layout.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Top8305
    Top8305 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭

    Good day Mark,

    I ran the query twice in A.I. mode (in "ALL" Tab) which the little Icon indicates. As for my Credits, I have a MAX subscription with 4 queries run for the month. What indicates to you that the q-run was a precise run?


    Thanks for the tip to run from my Library ("Books" Tab) and not from "ALL" Tab; the results answers the question, along with balderdash hits - but the answers are there. Thanks for the training!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

    I ran the query twice in A.I. mode (in "ALL" Tab) which the little Icon indicates. As for my Credits, I have a MAX subscription with 4 queries run for the month. What indicates to you that the q-run was a precise run?

    It looks like a precise search because the results indicate the search engine is returning any articles where all the words you included in the search field are present.

    It does not seem to be doing any analysis on those results to return the most relevant, which a Smart Search should

  • Mike Weimer
    Mike Weimer Member Posts: 3
    edited February 21

    I agree with this. Having more flexibility with how the AI Smart Search works would be great. An ability to ask follow up questions, options to have it include a greater number of resources in its response, longer responses, all would be very valuable options. And, an option to increase the number of "AI Credits" or purchase additional packs of them beyond the monthly allotment that comes with the subscriptions would be great, because I make significant use of this feature.

    I would also add that I have only been using Logos for about 6 months, but this feature alone has been extremely powerful when writing research papers for school and has saved me countless hours of manual searching for specific information on various topics.

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Pro Subscription. Ver 40.2

    Smart Search in "Your Books" for Entire Sanctification. This gives me the results I'm looking for, but then it will not print it out. In addition, I tried the Copy option and only get the synopsis text but not the sources listed in the synopsis.

    My opinion is that this feature is basically useless. I can't make a note with the entire content of the smart search. I can't copy the entire results of the smart search. I can't print the entire results of the smart search. Please tell me what good this feature is? What is it intended to provide?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

     In addition, I tried the Copy option and only get the synopsis text but not the sources listed in the synopsis.

    I just tried this and get the sources as well - please provide screenshots showing what the synopsis shows and what you get when you copy it.

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Attaching a screenshot of Logos Smart Search and screen shot of pasting after using the Copy command on lower right. I pasted into Apple Notes which does complete pasting of all links.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

    I pasted into Apple Notes which does complete pasting of all links

    If you have Microsoft Word, could you please try posting into that and see if the sources are included?

    My suspicion is that the Copy function is working fine but there are some app-specific pasting issues going on here.

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    I do not have M

    S Word. This is a screenshot of the paste into a new Pages document.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

    That's strange - when I paste into a Pages document I do get the sources

    I seem to remember a problem with pasting footnotes into Pages sometime ago - I wonder if what you are seeing is related, but I don't know.

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Is there a setting that applies to footnotes? My pastes do not even show the inline footnotes which yours shows.

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    since I am seeing this same behavior when posting into any app on my M4 Mac mini, I do not think it's a Pages issue. It is more likely a problem with Logos, and most likely a setting somewhere.

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Please note that I am not right clicking to copy nor using cmd-c, I am using the Copy button on the bottom right corner of the Summary view in the smart search.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,232

    Is there a setting that applies to footnotes?

    Good question - my guess is you have Copy citations set to No

    When I select that setting, I get the same results as you are seeing. When I set it to Yes, I get the sources and footnotes showing

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Aha! Changing that setting fixed the problem.

    Now, is there a way to do any of the following? These abilities would change the Smart Search from a sparkly doo-dad into a useful tool:

    • I can't make a note with the entire content of the smart search. (THIS is the most important and most glaring weakness)
    • I can't copy the entire results of the smart search.
    • I can't print/export the entire results of the smart search.
  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,106

    I can't make a note with the entire content of the smart search. (THIS is the most important and most glaring weakness)

    Can you specify exactly what you mean by this? I'm able to click the "Copy" button and paste the Smart Synopsis (and all citations into a Note easily; see blue highlight below).

    Or are you talking about copying 50+ search previews (red highlight) into a Note?

  • John Kaess
    John Kaess Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    The latter. I can copy the synopsis with the 5 sources, but NOT the 50+ sources below that. I'd love to be able to get this into a note to then go through and look at them so I don't have to continually rerun the search to look at the relevant resources.