5 free AI engines vs. Logos AI
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@Renold Burke, actually, I'm a boomer. My kids have just trained me well. 😊
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I think we've only begun with AI… and it will get better and better. I was a baby once myself! LOL 😎
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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But you are probably better than AI
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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you are being kind, thank you!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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I recently saw this article, but I don't remember if it was brought up here in the forum or if I got the pointer somewhere else.
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I think we need to look at what the purpose of the tool. I personally use ChatGPT as well along side of Verbum’s AI tool. I use ChatGPT every day in my job and my studies. The purpose of the built in AI tool is to help you get the most of the the books you own or ones you could own. Additionally it allows you to search your bible and then with one click be inside of your bible. The Verbum AI tool is not meant to replace ChatGPT or any other LLM. The ability to search my entire database with out having to provide precise words or search functions. That part is invaluable.
We have to look at each tool provided and use it for the purpose intended. The ability to ask free form questions to the books in my library and/or my Bible is worth every penny I pay for the tool.
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We have to look at each tool provided and use it for the purpose intended.
I can honestly say, their intensions, and my use, rarely cross paths. In many cases, it's not easy to figure out what they were thinking.
I would argue, a good design matches customer needs. Like at Home Depot.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I understand that DMB but they are not providing ChatGPT functionality. They are providing a way to search what we already have, in a much easier way. Additionally the Summarize option, from my understanding, is just a way to do a Quick Look to see what the passage/article/book or whatever so that you don’t have to open it and pre read it to find out it may not be the right resource.
I get what you are saying, however, there is a need for both ChatGPT and Verbum side by side, Verbum is not replacing ChatGPT. We would be paying a lot more if it was replacing it.
Here is a good page from Logos that explains the search feature: https://support.verbum.com/hc/en-us/articles/24158405788173-What-is-Smart-Search**I keep using ChatGPT because that is the tool I always use, it can be an LLM in its place.
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Well, I am not arguing for ChatGP in Logos … I don't use either one (Chatty's or SmartSearch). I'm questioning customers, who instruct other customers, they should observe someone's intent in Bellingham WA, as regards a design.
Now, do Logosians want a ChatGP functionality in Logos … I'd bet they do (don't know). Asking the Bible is rarely a couple questions, and you're done. More a conversation.
And even our robot dog (who struggles on our hiking trails) has ChatGP … we can ask him why hiking trails are his problem (involves a high center of gravity).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Now, do Logosians want a ChatGP functionality in Logos …
I most certainly do not.
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Ok that was pretty funny. If I had a robot dog I would only have to worry about oil leaks :)
I think I understand more what you are saying. I think it comes down to coming up with the use cases. I use the Bible search all the time in my studies. Either I’m trying to find a verse that I can’t think where it is exactly, or I’m trying to find the OT reference to a NT passage. Your use case may be different.
I think they have laid out what the use cases for the search is right now but feel it will evolve with new functionalities being added. Good couple messages.
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Nor me. But cattle smell water when they're thirsty. Remember Rawhide.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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A bout a week ago, I wanted to write a C++ program that popped a menu side bar window within a window. In C++ this takes a bit of time to do, I know, I've done it. So, I popped open Claude AI… typed in what I wanted in a C++ program and hit enter. Claude printed out a C++ program…. which I copied and put into VS Studio and compiled it and it actually ran! That is amazing to me!
I don't expect AI in Logos to do that. I expect the AI in Logos to help find me "remember" where things are that I've read about and don't remember where they are. This is a huge difference in Logos AI and other "social" AI programs to me. Others may find things also, but I would hope (being a bit naive) I can "trust" Logos AI because Logos AI is using my books, my resources to find the things I hunt for whereas the others are using whatever they use on the internet.
By the way, as one that has worked with cattle back when, if they are really thirsty and they do smell water, get out of the way…. cause they're gonna go there! Raaaw hiiide! LOL 😎
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Nor me. But cattle smell water when they're thirsty. Remember Rawhide.
Yes I do, but admitting it makes me feel old…
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Need? There is a need for AI now?
Oh, my fault. I found the scripture. I used the necessary AI to find it. I wouldn't have found it otherwise, of course.
Just as the generations of the past had no way of finding anything; it was an impossible task. How did they even feed themselves? What did they even use to find their own wheat fields? They didn't even have google maps. I couldn't imagine it.Phil 4:
19 But your AI god will supply all your needs according to its riches and glory, which it stole from the entirety of the world's data without consent, by your Christ that you trust; the American dream, being the enslavement of the asian factory worker for your own filthy lucre, amen.0 -
Well, at least we'd always know if AI took over ASUNDER, DMB, or MJ Smith on forum posts, with their unique and quirky ways of writing, they're un-reproducible 😉💐
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You're making me miss Milford Murray
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Not sure who he is. Someone on the forums?
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See Discovering Faithlife groups — Logos Community for an example post. He is one of several beloved forumites who had the audacity to die and use that as an excuse for ceasing to post. Matthew (Super Tramp) and George are others you still see references to.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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you know… I might be growing into that much audacity… LOL 😎
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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My favorite memory of Matthew, was the day he got attacked as Super Tramp. He seemed nonplussed … for a Christian, who always had an even answer.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I've gone and looked at several of Milford's posts (because it's so easy to do). What a unique style! He seemed like an interesting character. Thanks, MJ 😁
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Super tramp = unknown user. From the few quotes I looked at, he seemed a bit asunderish 😉 🙃
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He had a guitar collection, he sold to get Logos. He kept buying books, knowing they were for his kids. It was quite sad.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Wow. What a heart! Did he die?
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Yes, with a Logos logo on his prothesis.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Supertramp in the last months was on pain meds that sometimes made him act out of character. He and I had an agreement: I would tell him to go mow the lawn whenever the meds started talking.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I miss those guys. Thanks for keeping the memories alive. Since Milford lived fairly close to me, I was arranging a face-to-face visit with him but he died before that happened, so I didn't have the pleasure of doing that. But I'm looking forward to doing that in heaven.
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