Request a facility to add .pdf and .ePub books directly into LOGOS please.

Anthony Mankodi · 2022-01-07T03:48:27+00:00

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It would be a great feature if one could directly add into individual LOGOS accounts, books in *.pdf and *.epub formats WITHOUT first converting them into to *.docx.

This feature would help LOGOS become, for each account, a unified single access linked library platform enabling readability and all other functions each individual subscriber.

Why this feature? Because most books are large in sized are therefore difficult to easily convert into other formats.
Even if LOGOS, within itself, provides an easy 'convert the format' feature, it will be of assistance.
The rest of the process to thereafter add in the converted book will be merely one of uploading the relevant converted book into one's own account.

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Logan Mauldin

I have a large collection of electronic books that I paid to get in epub, mobi, or pdf format. I would love to be able to import them into Logos to be indexed and searched along with my other resources.

Tim Hensler

This would be very helpful. I'd like to be able to view them, and Personal books, from my mobile devices as well as from my desktop/laptop.

unknown

Yes please!

unknown

epub support for personal books would be wonderful

Michael Cordich

Being able to import epub, mobi, and pdf ebooks would be awesome, particularly if they can be searchable and scripture linked.

David Taylor, Jr.

I would like the ability to import epub files in addition to DOC X files.

Floyd Johnson

ePub and mobi would be useful. Text based PDFs as well, image based PDFs less so.

Robert Lloyd Davey

I agree. Also, I seem to have difficulty viewing something I convert from .docx in a secondary computer that is on my account. I get a "you do not have a license error", even when the .docx file is not protected by copyright. I would think that most digital files which are permitted to be stored on one's own computer, would legally be storable in the Logos Library.

Anthony Mankodi

Hi Robert Davey,

I agree.

I wonder if the comprehensive solution to our requests would then be that we request LOGOS to enable every account (having the same LOGOS ID) to be accessible across all devices, with each owners set of add-on books (in any of docx / epub / mobi formats) - but - with the brilliant LOGOS search, linked and other features to automatically kick-in once loaded?

As I'm a software geek, I can only speculate in hope this would be made possible. It would certainly be a significant stride forward ... I think.

And LOGOS could have their own disclaimers to protect themselves from copyright infringements into that portion of the feature for those add-on books.

Such a feature, if made available, would easily lift LOGOS from being truly a great service provider (or / platform / what have you), which it no doubt already is, for it is truly unique amongst it's peers, and would further transform it into an even more brilliant program!

Well, that's my opinion.

Tony.

Murilo Rezende Melo

This is a very important feature. The process to add owned books/pdfs is cumbersome, having to convert, edit, etc. However, I understand that books are formatted differently and having a consistent format makes searches much easier. It seems to me that having an importer, which would bring odd/even pages and ask the user to "paint" where the page number is, what text to ignore (headers), so the importer identifies the text properly. Also, it would be simpler to just add journal articles as unformatted PDFs, importing them via RIS (Endnote) or manually.

Carolyn Robinson

I've tried to convert to docx but not all manuscripts will convert. I would love to be able to link my pdf files to passages in my Bible.

Nelson D. Kloosterman

Please allow for importing PDFs for searching.

unknown

I like this idea.

unknown

I also would like to see the ability to import PDF files. I know you can convert from PDF to Word files but it can get ugly at times.

Dale Babinsky

I would love to be able to upload my personal books in PDF format as well as the currently available MS Word format.

Nelson D. Kloosterman

It would be an absolute home run if I could import my PDFs into Logos, making them searchable by Scripture and subject/topic.

adamtuckeronline

the ability to create personal books from pdfs as converting a pdf to Word doesn't always maintain good formatting

Bob Allen

I would add to that Apple Pages documents (.pages). The problem I have with .docx documents is that converting to Word from other applications seems to always introduce weirdness that I don't know how to fix since I almost never use Word.

Anthony Mankodi

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1328740#Comment_1328740

@Bob Allen
(1) Yes, *.pages for MAC users like me, would be great too. I had refrained from adding that suggestion in earlier, only because of the possibility that direct *.pdf and *.epubs might be easier for the LOGOS team to incorporate as compared to *.pages documents, merely because the number of MAC based users might be significantly less in comparison to *.docx users.

(2) A Further Suggestion : Perhaps a detailed and dedicated video tutorial (Minimum Duration :30 mins.) will greatly help resolve the following :
(a) Converting into *.docx is still rather cumbersome. So, a video tutorial taking one step by step through the process would be great.
(b) I also wish I knew how to :
...i... Incorporate suitable headwords RECOGNISABLE AS SUCH by LOGOS into my *.docx documents;
...ii... Incorporate links and indexes into my *'docx documents suitable for LOGOS format.
And ...
If others think that this point (2) "A further Suggestion" of my post is helpful, perhaps this might be supported suitably?

That said, I am nevertheless grateful for at least having some facility at present to add my converted *.docx in. Not the easiest of options ... but ... better something than nothing! So, thank you LOGOS team and looking forward to your add-on support and improvement utilising these suggestions.

Nelson D. Kloosterman

Allow user to enter PDFs as personal books, just like one can do with .docx now.

Nelson D. Kloosterman

Please, please give us the ability to import PDFs into Logos. I have many ready to go!

Ian Kirk

Please! I would love to have Open Access academic papers and epub books I've purchased available in Logos.

unknown

As a newcomer to Logos and having a few thousand PDFs I would like to see a direct import option. Word's DocX function is not the prettiest by a mile and I prefer to be able to read them on screen as they were published.

Daniel McCoy

I started a new feedback post (https://feedback.logos.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/pdf-manager-annotator) unintentionally as this one did not come up when I searched "PDF." I'll quote my post from that one in this thread as I believe it's relevant.

"I love Zotero's ability to manage/store and annotate PDF files. I am in academics and end up downloading quite a few PDF journal articles through my institution. I don't want to have to purchase all my journal articles through Logos (nor could I - many are unavailable). Additionally, it would great to be able to use Logos to store ALL my research, not just some of it. I was noticing this today as I worked on a Clippings document of quotes for an upcoming research paper. It was great until I downloaded an article and could no longer do my work in Logos. I had to switch to a different app to complete my research. This would help me a lot! I wonder if others might benefit from a feature like this?"

Daniel McCoy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1328729#Comment_1328729

@Carolyn Robinson This would help me so much! I'd love even to be able to cite a paragraph in a Logos Note or Sermon and have it hyperlinked to the paragraph on my PDF.

Josiah Young

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1328754#Comment_1328754

@Daniel McCoy I agree! I have a paid subscription for Zotero storage because I have so many PDFs. I would love to work with all of these inside Logos so that my highlighting could be searched quickly. I would also love to be able to use Logo's Scripture tagging to hover and read Bible references in my PDFs, as well as search my PDFs for specific Bible references. I was hoping Logos would make a Zotero extension, but I realized today that I think I would prefer simply to have the PDFs in Logos. I would be fine with my PDFs appearing in a page-by-page layout, rather than as a native Logos book (or maybe the option to toggle between them in case it does happened to be formatted as a native book). I'd just love to use Logos's searching and Bible reference features.

And I agree that it's beyond Logos to compete with PDF resources. There are just too many papers, journals, articles, blogs, website print-to-PDFs, etc. for them to ever offer the same content in a paid format. I'd like to keep Zotero for citations, and maybe have a way to export PDFs directly into Logos for consumption (with all the Logos bibliographic book fields automatically populated by the Zotero integration / plug in).

And for the record, this PDF feature would be far more useful to me than an a "Paper Builder" feature. I'm totally fine with my Word and Zotero setup, and I think Logos would have to spend a lot of time reinventing the wheel if they wanted to compete with that. But adding PDFs would be a super great way to improve life for academic writers.

Rabira

Why can't I link set my personal books to my bible? Also can you please make epub/pdf to logos alot easier instead of docx?

unknown

What is the status on these items?

Sabu

Yes, it would be great

unknown

Yes, we need this for android and windows especially the .epub. Should be very simple to add this feature.

unknown

This is THE idea , a crucial feature that can set you apart from other platforms. Recognize this feature as a must-have and add it to the Logos10 platform. This feature should apply to PDF and EPUB documents , books , articles , and all other categories. The development team should make this happen easily. If they are unable to , please let me know. I have a solution for you :-)

May the Lord bless you all.

unknown

Yes!! 👏 please do this!

Courtney Clarke

I love that you can import your books into Logos by converting doc files. Please do the same with just importing documents\Books that are in PDf format.

MJ. Smith

You can do this indirectly as you can open a PDF in Word and save it in docx format. It is my understanding that this would be a costly addition to Logos.

Anthony Mankodi

@MJ. Smith

Hi MJ.

G'day to you.

I accept your input that for LOGOS to add in a system to directly read other formats (other .docx) might be too expensive for LOGOS to pursue. So that should put my suggestion to … rest-in-peace ... from a LOGOS perspective presently.

The manual process that you suggested mixes up footnotes, page nos., headings, footers, etc., all into the converted text and requires too much effort to 'clean up'.

Given therefore, the adverse cost-benefit issues involved for LOGOS, I conclude that it might be therefore wiser for individual users to explore how to separately (outside logos) convert files into ACCEPTABLE .docx formats and then to upload them into 'Personal Books' using software that is available for purchase and then to upload the completed files. That appears to be the only present alternative.

One final thing though …. I wonder what cost effective [free is best … 😊 ] software would be the best recommended solutions that would help LOGOS users which when sourced from outside LOGOS might be useful to fulfil the present need.

Meanwhile, MJ, once again, thanks for that input.

Blessings,

In Christ Jesus,

Tony.

MJ. Smith

I've taken the approach of macros in Word but it varies a great deal on the content and format of the PDF's one is trying to convert. My biggest issue is the end-of-line conversion.

Anthony Mankodi

And I've decided to learn 'Visual Basic' to see if that helps converting 'pdf / 'epub docs into acceptable LOGOS formats.

Perhaps, if I learn some of that programming skill, I'll be able to leverage that to generate more 'LOGOS readable / searchable resources' for myself.

But even if that works, the agony may not end there.

I'll still not be able to view 'Personal Books' on iPad / iPhones.

As far as that is concerned, I join with many others wishing that this were made possible … SOONER … rather than in the indefinite 'By and by'.

I understand that LOGOS cannot presently support other versions such as .epub, .pdf, etc. to be uploaded and read as 'viewable' 'PersonalBooks'.

I understand they also may not even add in, readability of such books by, as a minimum, enabling referencing, meaning showing up the scripture references using LOGOS while one hovers over the .pdf text stored on my device. That would be a good feature to start with. Search functions, etc. could follow in time.

But … not being able to access personal books on iPad and iPhones … that is a MUST HAVE feature and should be prioritised by LOGOS. But … that's my opinion.

Conclusive suggestions:

Perhaps LOGOS could prioritise incorporating the following systematically:

(1) Enable viewing 'Personal Books' on iPads / iPhones.

(2) Enable 'hover' features to show up scriptures even on .pdf and .epub books even if they are not uploaded as 'Personal Books'.

(3) Enable direct uploading of .pdf / .epub / .mobi books into LOGOS. OR

Enable LOGOS features to work on books stored in a dedicated LOGOS folder stored locally and accessible to the LOGOS search / read engine for this purpose only. This might even save space and costs for LOGOS servers to store 'Personal Books'.

(4) Enable features such as 'hover / read / search / etc.' for all books to be directly loaded into 'Personal Books' with full features such as … Read / Search / etc.

Perhaps some day this 'wish list' might work.

That said, I thoroughly enjoy LOGOS. It is even now an excellent programme.

Blessings,

In Christ Jesus,

Tony.

Joe McCune (Faithlife)

I have removed the "bug" tag because this is clearly a feature request.

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