Websters 1828?

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Douglas said:

What would you think about having the Merriam Websters 1828 dictionary available on Logos?

I am sure you meant Noah Webster 1828 dictionary.....As Don said, you can get it in the really cool bundle with the other titles from Foundation for American Christian Education (F.A.C.E.) I have used those books in homeschooling and can recommend them with a smile on my f.a.c.e. [:D]

or, you can also find it sold in Libronix format published by F.A.C.E. at locations off this web site.

Just be careful to confirm it is actually the Libronix format CD. There is another version that is NOT the same.  NOTE: The same goes for the Oxford Concise Dictionary - there is a Libronix format & another that is not.

MJ. Smith said:

but I hope your spelling isn't indicative of

 Before Noah Webster spelling was pretty muche whotebwer a pursun wantted it too be.

 It has a lot more to do with my stubborn refusal to use spell checkers than it does with the fine ladies who wrote the texts.

btw: thanks for immortalizing my boo-boo in the quote. It is funny, huh? 

George Somsel said:

Would someone care to explain why this particular dictionary is desired?

The definitions frequently use scripture references or just plain good old fashioned moral examples. Webster's Bible took the KJV text and "Americanized" it so it is not really a KJV issue at all. Many students of the founding fathers like having a more contemporary source to understand their writings. American syntax has really degraded in the past 180 years. (Just like our spelling skills....[:$] )

MJ. Smith said:

I could correct the spelling and leave the subsequent readers totally confused

No. This is "live, without a net!"

Rosie Perera said:

Yes, buy that dictionary and you too can write persuasive ad copy like that.

I think I'll stick with my Collins 8th, Merriam-Webster Collegiate and Concise Oxford unless the bring out the OED then I in for that.

George Somsel said:

Rosie Perera said:

Yes, buy that dictionary and you too can write persuasive ad copy like that.

I think I'll stick with my Collins 8th, Merriam-Webster Collegiate and Concise Oxford unless the bring out the OED then I in for that.

Yup, I'm holding out for the OED, too!

Bob Pritchett said:

Rosie Perera said:

Yup, I'm holding out for the OED, too!

I want to do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Dictionary

You can see it (in facsimile) here:

http://global-language.com/CENTURY/

 

Oh, very nice! You'd want to do it with illustrations, too, I hope?

George Somsel said:

Having the definitions isn't the most important factor

A dictionary without definitions........... hmm.........[*-)]

Amazing how taking your sentence out of context changes the inherent meaning. By the time Merriam got a hold of Webster's the context had changed. This did not make Noah's work "incorrect", just dated. When I study archaic Japanese I refer to older dictionaries. The Japanese language has changed drastically in the last 150 years and new dictionaries (fine for modern study) do little to aid in classical studies. Webster's 1828 dictionary is the best for reading period writings in context.

I would definitely go for OED in Logos.

Michael Aubrey said:

Matthew C Jones said:

American syntax has really degraded in the past 180 years.

???

It is a joke Michael. [:)] A demonstration of how an American can say something that has convoluted meaning because of a lack of knowledge of the proper definitions of words.

 addendum: I must agree the joke isn;t half as funny as a baby conversing with a hamburger.

Matthew C Jones said:

addendum: I must agree the joke isn;t half as funny as a baby conversing with a hamburger

OK, are you making fun of me ?  [Current avatar = BK Whopper]  [:)]  Seriously, I'm sure you're not, but it sounds good.

Bob Pritchett said:

Rosie Perera said:

Yup, I'm holding out for the OED, too!

I want to do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Dictionary

You can see it (in facsimile) here:

http://global-language.com/CENTURY/

The Century dictionary is a nice dictionary, except it seems to be almost completely lacking in etymological dates (example page), which is the main reason I'd like to have the OED in Logos format. I already have all of the other English dictionaries in Logos, I can't see spending $250 for another one without good reason.  Perhaps someone can convince me?

Rosie Perera said:

(but it does show the actual Greek instead of a transliteration)

Hmm, you got me there. 

Rosie Perera said:

Granted, it doesn't always give the full citation information, but we don't have OED and aren't likely to get it any time soon.

Yes that annoyed me a bit.  To fully source the citations, I would have to use Google and that might not even do it.

Rosie Perera said:

t's got much more detailed definitions than the best English dictionary currently available in Logos (Collins 8th ed.).

Perhaps I should rather think of it as an encyclopedia.  That centaur definition is longer than the one in the Columbia Encyclopedia:

Columbia said:

centaur (sĕnʹtôr), in Greek mythology, creature, half man and half horse. The centaurs were fathered by IXION or by Centaurus, who was Ixion’s son. Followers of Dionysus, they were uncouth and savage, but some, such as CHIRON, became friends and teachers of men. Their half-brothers, the Lapiths, engaged them in a battle that was described by Ovid, depicted on the Parthenon, and sculpted by Michelangelo.

Paul Lagass and Columbia University, The Columbia Encyclopedia, 6th ed. (New York; Detroit: Columbia University Press; Sold and distributed by Gale Group, 2000).

It's preordered. (Whether I can afford it/justify it or not when it comes available is another story.)

Rosie Perera said:

I didn't think you'd be that easy to convince!

Convincing me to pre-order is fairly easy, especially when I kind of want it already.  The real decision is when the bill comes due.  Plus those were good reasons.

Rosie Perera said:

Can I interest you in the Lion History Series?

Already on my list.

Todd Phillips said:

Perhaps I should rather think of it as an encyclopedia.  That centaur definition is longer than the one in the Columbia Encyclopedia:

BTW, I'm still envious of those who got the Columbia Encyclopedia while it was available. I've tried to find it on the after-market, but to no avail. [:(] Maybe I just have to wait until someone is having an estate sale for someone who had this in their Logos library.