Commentaries not found in Passage Guide

Dale Durnell, Retired UM Clergy
edited November 20 in English Forum

I need a passage guide for Luke 21.1-4. I have prioritized my top four or five commentaries. When I run the passage guide I only find two of the four even listed, and certainly not prioritized.

I created sermon prep guide and limited it to Commentaries, and a couple other items that I use, but without all the extra features that come with a PG. I set it to run on Lk 21.1-4 and it didn't fnd any of my priority listed commentaries and there was no option for "more" to find others.

The only way I could find the commentaries I wanted to work with was to expand the pericope out to Luke 21:1-15 (I tried 1-9 but that didn't do any better than 1-4)

Not sure what's happening here

Blessings,

Dale Durnell

Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

 

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  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Dale,

    I just created a "commentaries only" guide and checked your passage; it worked for me; I got my commentaries, and a "more" button.

     

     

    Robert Pavich

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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Dale,

    I just created a "commentaries only" guide and checked your passage; it worked for me; I got my commentaries, and a "more" button.

    Yes, me too. See the picture:

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    Bohuslav

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    One more note:  Adding wider version of the reference (Luk 21:1-15) added just one more commentary, The Preacher's Commentary Series. Where are others? I think it is the problem notified already my some of us, that references in the commentaries doesn't work as in the V3, but just with the exact reference. I see it as a problem. I think V3 has it right to quote even if it is not exact reference but in that same "frame".

    Bohuslav

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    Dale, an image of your preferred resources and the results of your passage guide search would have been helpful.

    My own experiment replicates yours (in part, not knowing your 4 preferred commentaries).

    Here is the result of my passage guide operation:

     

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    Here are my preferred commentaries (it's a made up list and only includes series - could have added others for the test)...

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    The highlighted ones are matches. Hermeneia is absent from the results because the volume on Luke 21 does not exist!

     

    Oxford Bible Commentary is always absent from the passage guide even if the search pericope matches exactly a pericope described in the commentary. Here it does not - but the starting point is the same....

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    Harper's Bible Commentary

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    Interpretation:

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    Bible Speaks Today:

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    Reading the New Testament:

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    Obviously each of these commentaries deals with the passage under consideration but none appear in the passage guide. 

    If the broader pericope does not cross chapter divisions (which is not the case here). A better tool is the Power Lookup. In this case, it finds the Oxford Bible Commentary (which is banned from appearing in the Passage Guide!). 

     

    I have raised this issue on a number of occasions. Others have raised questions about this.

  • Jon
    Jon Member Posts: 767 ✭✭

    Here is the result of my passage guide operation:

     

    And here is mine...

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    Care to swap libraries? I promise a dramatic improvement in indexing time [:D]

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Dale, an image of your preferred resources and the results of your passage guide search would have been helpful.

    My own experiment replicates yours (in part, not knowing your 4 preferred commentaries).

    What is obvious, is that V4 somehow works differently with the PG commentaries. Here is my list (even longer that I can show) of the same PG in V3:

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    Bohuslav

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    I think it is the problem notified already my some of us, that references in the commentaries doesn't work as in the V3, but just with the exact reference. I see it as a problem. I think V3 has it right to quote even if it is not exact reference but in that same "frame".

     

    that's a big part of the issue...let's hope that gets resolved.

    Robert Pavich

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