Parallel Passages

Dudley Rose
Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278
edited November 20 in English Forum

I've only been beta testing for a few days, so please excuse me if I've missed posts about this (I have searched) or if the feature works differently from how I think it does in Logos 4.  The parallel passages and harmonies add-in in version 3 is quite powerful, and something I use frequently.  I especially appreciate that it sets the full texts in columns, like the print versions typically do, but in the Bible version I choose.  I also like the ability to select the sources (Aland, etc.) for the parallels.  So far I've been able to use the parallel passages of the passage guide to get a columned list, verse by verse, of the references (not columns of text), which I find of limited usefulness.  Sorry if I'm missing something obvious.

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  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Dudley,

    Here is what you do:

    Go to:

    Tools>Text comparison

    When the window opens; click the drop down on the upper left corner and select "horizontal layout" and also choose "float this panel" and then drag it to the right shape; to match V3's parallel passage layout.

     

    in the "box" in the text comparison window you can just type in your bible types separated by a comma

     

    NA27, ESV, NASB etc.

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    When the window opens; click the drop down on the upper left corner and select "horizontal layout" and also choose "float this panel" and then drag it to the right shape; to match V3's parallel passage layout.

    I think what he was talking about with parallel passages is not the same as parallel translations. I think he's saying if Mark XX:XX and Matt XX:XX describe the same event, but them side by side and compare the different accounts.

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278

    I've only been beta testing for a few days, so please excuse me if I've
    missed posts about this (I have searched) or if the feature works
    differently from how I think it does in Logos 4.  The parallel passages
    and harmonies add-in in version 3 is quite powerful, and something I
    use frequently.  I especially appreciate that it sets the full texts in
    columns, like the print versions typically do, but in the Bible version
    I choose.  I also like the ability to select the sources (Aland, etc.)
    for the parallels.  So far I've been able to use the parallel passages
    of the passage guide to get a columned list, verse by verse, of the
    references (not columns of text), which I find of limited usefulness. 
    Sorry if I'm missing something obvious.

    Anybody?

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    dudley,

    I get what you're saying now...the only thing that I can say is to open a harmony an open the parallel passages and have the harmony be the target...that way you approximate what  you had in V3

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    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278

    dudley,

    I get what you're saying now...the only thing that I can say is to open a harmony an open the parallel passages and have the harmony be the target...that way you approximate what  you had in V3

    Thanks, Bob.  That's helpful, but I think it's a poor substitute for 1) being able to select Bible versions in the parallels and 2) the schemes from several sources of parallels, like the 4 Gospels (Aland, et al.), Pauline Epistles and various ones in the OT.  For what it's worth.

    Again, thanks,
    Dudley

     

  • Bob Pritchett
    Bob Pritchett Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,280

    That's helpful, but I think it's a poor substitute for 1) being able to select Bible versions in the parallels and 2) the schemes from several sources of parallels, like the 4 Gospels (Aland, et al.), Pauline Epistles and various ones in the OT.  For what it's worth.

    Actually, harmonies and parallels are much cooler in 4.0.

    They're now in Library -- because they're books. And if the paper book had word-for-word alignment of the passages (see "A Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels") you'll get that layout, scaling at any with (that was hard -- I hope you think it's cool!). It has to be constrained to one version, though, because the original word for word alignment was done in that version.

    If the harmony only aligned at the verse level, you can still swtich versions. (See "Records of the Life of Jesus") These books offer a new edit box (should be a drop-down) to the right of the reference box on the resource toolbar. Type a version abbreviation there, and the book reformats with your chosen version.

    -- Bob

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    These books offer a new edit box (should be a drop-down) to the right of the reference box on the resource toolbar. Type a version abbreviation there, and the book reformats with your chosen version.

     

    Very cool.

     

    I had a major font issue when I tried this on the "Records of the life of Jesus" in switching to the NA27 though. I tried a few different greek fonts and none changed it.

    image

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    That's helpful, but I think it's a poor substitute for 1) being able to select Bible versions in the parallels and 2) the schemes from several sources of parallels, like the 4 Gospels (Aland, et al.), Pauline Epistles and various ones in the OT.  For what it's worth.

    Actually, harmonies and parallels are much cooler in 4.0.

    They're now in Library -- because they're books. And if the paper book had word-for-word alignment of the passages (see "A Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels") you'll get that layout, scaling at any with (that was hard -- I hope you think it's cool!). It has to be constrained to one version, though, because the original word for word alignment was done in that version.

    If the harmony only aligned at the verse level, you can still swtich versions. (See "Records of the Life of Jesus") These books offer a new edit box (should be a drop-down) to the right of the reference box on the resource toolbar. Type a version abbreviation there, and the book reformats with your chosen version.

    -- Bob

    Excellent job. Thanks for all the effort! Can't wait till the collections in the PG are available so i can plug a harmony collection into it and see what happens.

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Can't wait till the collections in the PG are available so i can plug a harmony collection into it and see what happens.

    Ditto

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • Dudley Rose
    Dudley Rose Member Posts: 278

    Actually, harmonies and parallels are much cooler in 4.0.

    They're now in Library -- because they're books.

    -- Bob

    Thanks for this clarification, Bob.  I do like the way you have worked the columns.  I have another question.  In 3 I have several resources (sources) for the parallel passages and harmonies add-in:

    • A Harmony of the Gospels (Robertson)
    • *A Harmony of the Synoptic Gospels (Burton,
      Goodspeed)
    • Analytical Outline of the Books of Samuel,
      Kings, and Chronicles (Crockett)
    • Eusebian Canons
    • Jude - 2 Peter (Jackson)
    • Old Testament Quotations and Allusions in the
      New Testament (Jones)
    • Old Testament Quotes in the New Testament
      (HCSB)
    • Parallel Passages in the Pastoral Epistles
      (Brannan)
    • *Records of the Life of Jesus (Sharman)
    • Synopsis of Matthew, Mark, and Luke
      (Jackson)
    • Synopsis of the Four Gospels (Aland)
    • Synopsis of the Old Testament (Jackson)

    I've marked with an * the ones I seem to have so far in Beta 4.  Do you think some of the others will come along?  I am especially interested in Aland and some of the OT titles.

    Thanks so much,
    Dudley

  • Charlene
    Charlene Member Posts: 548 ✭✭

    Actually, harmonies and parallels are much cooler in 4.0.

    They're now in Library -- because they're books.

     

    Very nice, Bob! Thanks!!!

    Charlene

    Charlene

  • Charlene
    Charlene Member Posts: 548 ✭✭

    If the harmony only aligned at the verse level, you can still swtich versions. (See "Records of the Life of Jesus") These books offer a new edit box (should be a drop-down) to the right of the reference box on the resource toolbar. Type a version abbreviation there, and the book reformats with your chosen version.

     

    Wow! I just tried this. This is great!

    Charlene

    Charlene

  • Ebbe Andréasson
    Ebbe Andréasson Member Posts: 720 ✭✭

    I had a major font issue when I tried this on the "Records of the life of Jesus" in switching to the NA27 though. I tried a few different greek fonts and none changed it.

    This is an Win XP issue mentioned earlier.