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That does not make sense to me.

We signed up for a Beta program. I expected ahead of time that there would be frequent updates.

Am I misunderstanding you?

Jerry

I have resources comming out that I have bought as pre-pubs and you are right we have had a number of updates that have been sent in the last week.

I too don't want to clog up my computer so have to manage the download and indexing time.

I am using L3 on my laptop and keeping that up to date. Having been super keen to download beta 3 and found false alarms, I have decided to go slower. I was expecting to update to beta 4 on Monday evening but it didn't come till Tuesday. I also had a resource from pre-pub purchaces all of which would require reindexing.

As it happens because I chose not to open L4 (and use L3) I had no updates. I watched the listings and found thatr several updates were also coming.

Working like the tortoise and not the hare has saved me time reindexing and I organised myself so that the reindexing process took place while I was asleep!

I have to do it this way to keep me sane. Indexing just takes too long any other way[sn]

I may be a beta tester but I do have other work I need to do and re-indexing slows everything down.

Which is why they say, and always have said that you only should have the beta installed if it's not your primary machine...things get broken, things don't work like they should, etc. [:O]

Philip,

I didn't realize you were kidding...sorry...I was replying to Mark.

it's early....sorry [:$]

Sorry, I did not pick up on the joke either.

I think the point still stands for all of us - and I include myself because there have been frustrating times for me as well. Beta 4 seems to have especially had extra downloads and so forth.

But this is a Beta program and we all are volunteers. In fact, as long as we don't break the NDA, we can go back to v3 if we want to. I don't think that would be very fair to Logos, but if you found that you did not have the time you thought you would when this all started, you could simply quit testing.

It has taken me extra time, just like everyone else. But I am a very loyal customer and want to help. With the direction v4 is going, I also feel like I am helping (in a small way) others that will be using the final product. I think v4 will open electronic Bible study to more people than ever.

Face it - v3 had a high learning curve. You had to WANT to learn it because of what the program was capable of doing. I spent several hundred dollars simply on training through MOrris Proctor's seminars, which were worth it. But how many software products do you have to spend extra money just to learn it? THey are out there, but they are usually professional-level things. I open MS Office and start working. I've never been to a training seminar for that.

Most of us are Pastors, Seminary students, church leaders, and serious Bible study-ers. I can see v4 taking Bible study way past our group. That means more business for Logos, which means more development, more titles, and probably all at lower prices.

I don't think anyone is wrong for feeling frustrated from time to time, but perhaps this helps bring some perspective to what we are doing. We are helping Logos develop their best product ever, and that could lead to more people into serious Bible study! I like that idea...

Ready for Beta 5! Tuesday night again?

Jerry

HMM. Might be nice if I had a second machine handy. Didn't see that as a requirement to be a beta tester, though.

Mark,

I don't have a second machine really either but when beta testing...those are the risks...that's all I was saying; it's to be expected during a beta program.

How sad are we. I think we live on this forum.

I resemble that remark.