Buy or Wait ?

Fritz R
Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Hi Everybody

I am really interested in this product , but overall the reviews have been mixed so far. I have 2 mac's at home so i will need to purchase the mac version.

Should i buy now or wait until the lag problems etc are solved ?

Thanks so much .

 

 

Comments

  • Thomas Wooded
    Thomas Wooded Member Posts: 66 ✭✭

    Fritz,

    Buy now!

    You are licensed for both Mac and Windows, so you don't have to buy a specific version.  The beta is coming along well... I use it with hardly a glitch for all my day-to-day work.  (I have stopped firing up Parallels to run the Windows version on my Mac for well over a month or so.)  And, the final release version ships October 1st.

    Reason #2 to buy now: Special pricing to celebrate the upcoming Mac ship date!

    Best part yet: Logos has a money-back guarantee.

    Go for it!  You can't lose!  [H]

    MacBook Pro 13" 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo & 4GB RAM
    MacOS 10.6.6 and Windows 7 Pro

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭

    Hi Everybody

    I am really interested in this product , but overall the reviews have been mixed so far. I have 2 mac's at home so i will need to purchase the mac version.

    Should i buy now or wait until the lag problems etc are solved ?

    Thanks so much .

    Buy now....

     

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    Should i buy now or wait until the lag problems etc are solved ?

    Don't by now!

    I am afraid you are too late and have missed the boat.

    Over the last six months users have formed a great little community with chats going back and forth about crashes, logs, updates and restarts.

    Now the whole thing is like the end of a party - a few hangers on wanting a last drink of 'exporting highlights' or 'usable help-files' but mostly people have wandered off home satisfied but facing the prospect of work in the morning.

    No longer can we prevaricate due to crashes and non-starts – now we have to get on with actually using the software.

    The 'blessed' program hasn't gone wrong for me in ages.

    All rather depressing really.

    I live in hope that Logos will produce a 'worship projection suite' that will be as buggy as Alpha one and get the whole thing started again.

    Best wait for that.

     

    tootle pip

    Mike

    Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

     

    No longer can we prevaricate due to crashes and non-starts – now we have to get on with actually using the software.
     
    The 'blessed' program hasn't gone wrong for me in ages.
     
    All rather depressing really.

    Mike,  I recognized your problem immediately, because I suffer from it as well.  When the windows version left private beta and went gold, I was left feeling empty, though there were still many requests to be made and responded to.  

    But here's hope Mike: I would venture to guess that there will in the future continue to be a Mac Beta, and hope of all hopes, sometimes it will actually crash and you'll get to report bugs, yes, real bugs!  Oh, the rapture of it all!  

    But then, yes I too suffer the cold reality that sometimes I just have to work and that Logos, despite my best attempts to crash it, is working just fine.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Mariano Proto
    Mariano Proto Member Posts: 73 ✭✭

    I will say BUY now... I got my Logos 4 for MAC when it was in Alpha 10 so It has been a lot of improvement. Not doubt will be much better. Also Price wise its the time now who knows how much it will be when is Gold version. 

    Trust The Lord and do it. 

    Mariano 

  • Wilson Hines
    Wilson Hines Member Posts: 434 ✭✭

    IMHO, waiting to buy L4 Mac is like waiting for that next generation Intel processor: they will always be developing that "next generation Intel processor", so you have to bite the bullet at some point.  

    Might as well jump right in, as the water is very fine.

    Wilson Hines

  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    If you can afford it now, I'd say buy now. The price is only going to go up when the special deals come to an end. And as it stands, the program is quite usable. There are still bugs and glitches to work out and optimization to be done, but the result will be an increasingly usable product. In the meantime, you can benefit now from a good program and from great savings.

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,470

    Buy now, Beta 10 is very close to the L4 Win version with few problems and all the updates to the final release next month are free. Please read up on the installation process, as indexing and downloading can take some time... 4-8 hours. Be patient during this process as the rewards are great. Enjoy!

  • Christopher Guest
    Christopher Guest Member Posts: 18 ✭✭

    I have resisted buying the product since the start of the year - but will be placing my order before the official release date.

    Even mainstream programs, such as Office Mac for example, are always being updated due to bugs and security issues - but does that stop most of us buying such programs?

    My Mac can go all the way to OS XI

    www.bournvillechurch.co.uk

  • Timothy Shrimpton
    Timothy Shrimpton Member Posts: 103 ✭✭

    Quick question,

    If you own Logos 4 for Windows, is there any charge to use the Mac version?

  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    Quick question,

    If you own Logos 4 for Windows, is there any charge to use the Mac version?

    Quick answer,

    No charge.

  • Timothy Shrimpton
    Timothy Shrimpton Member Posts: 103 ✭✭

    Awesome!  Now that the Mac version of Logos is more than viable, I may have to add Apple's products into my consideration the next time I need to do some hardware refreshing.

  • Cameron Watters (Faithlife)
    Cameron Watters (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 737

    If you own Logos 4 for Windows, is there any charge to use the Mac version?

    Strictly speaking, you don't license "Logos 4 for Windows" or "Logos 4 for Mac". You license a collection of resources (a Logos 4 base package) that you can use on Windows, Mac, iOS (iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch) or biblia.com. Not all resources are available on the iOS devices and/or biblia.com.

    Director of Engineering for Enterprise and Operations

  • Michael Lane
    Michael Lane Member Posts: 48 ✭✭

    overall the reviews have been mixed so far

    Should i buy now or wait

    1. Realize that there is a lot of bug reporting on this forum because that is what the Beta process is for - it is going to be heavily weighted with bug reports. Personally, I have been using L4Mac since Alpha 16 or so and have found the Beta's to be very stable and functional. The few bugs I have run into (during Alpha) were handled very efficiently by the developers.
    2. Buy now.
    3. Patiently endure the initial download and indexing (which you'll have to do whether now or later).  This seems to be a necessary(?) evil of the software - and is not a good first impression for many users who make their purchase with eager anticipation and then cannot drive it off the lot but have to wait for it to be delivered.
    4. Use it, love it.

     

  • David N DeMott
    David N DeMott Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Hello Thomas,

    I noticed your comment on the Logos Forum and wanted more info.  I just purchased a Mac and want to transfer my Logos to it.  I was thinking that I would have to use Parallels, but you said that I would have a Mac license.  How did you go about installing your logos mac version without loosing anything.  I have my resources on an external drive and wondered if I had to do something to make them accessible to the new Mac version once I install it.  Any help you can give would be deeply appreciated!

     

    Dave

  • Philip Jones
    Philip Jones Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    I also purchased around Alpha 9 or 10.  And was disappointed in the performance and usability.  Patience is a virtue that has paid off big.  Being new to Logos not just the Mac version, I guess I don't really know what more I have to look forward to.  I have never used the PC version.    I am very satisfied with both the performance and the usability of this product at this point.  Every update going forward is just icing. 

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    Great Replies everybody, just one more question can i install it at home on my imac as well as on my mac book pro since i travel half the month and would like to take the word t with me ?

     

    thanks for all the great replies ...

  • Cameron Watters (Faithlife)
    Cameron Watters (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 737

    Great Replies everybody, just one more question can i install it at home on my imac as well as on my mac book pro since i travel half the month and would like to take the word t with me ?

    Yes.

    http://www.logos.com/ArticleViewer/2090

    Director of Engineering for Enterprise and Operations

  • Seth Hewitt
    Seth Hewitt Member Posts: 93 ✭✭

    Should i buy now or wait until the lag problems etc are solved ?

    Don't by now!

    I am afraid you are too late and have missed the boat.

    Over the last six months users have formed a great little community with chats going back and forth about crashes, logs, updates and restarts.

    Now the whole thing is like the end of a party - a few hangers on wanting a last drink of 'exporting highlights' or 'usable help-files' but mostly people have wandered off home satisfied but facing the prospect of work in the morning.

    No longer can we prevaricate due to crashes and non-starts – now we have to get on with actually using the software.

    The 'blessed' program hasn't gone wrong for me in ages.

    All rather depressing really.

    I live in hope that Logos will produce a 'worship projection suite' that will be as buggy as Alpha one and get the whole thing started again.

    Best wait for that.

     

    Mike, I think it was Cameron who previously referred to all of us as alphaholics. He was right, you know!

     

    Seth

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    thanks

    i think the price went up compared to this weekend?

    I guess i waited too long :-(

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    i think the price went up compared to this weekend?

    I guess i waited too long :-(

    No! It is still free.

    It's the books that cost!

    Are you running Logos in Windows anywhere?

    If so any books on your account will be downloaded automatically.

    tootle pip

    Mike

    Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    I just bought the green version :-)

    finally .....

     

  • Cameron Watters (Faithlife)
    Cameron Watters (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 737

    i think the price went up compared to this weekend?

    If you're looking to buy a base package, the price should still be 20% off the regular price.

    Director of Engineering for Enterprise and Operations

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    thanks

    downloading the 4.6 gb now :-)

    onto my imac . can i just transfer them to my laptop or do i download them again ?

  • Carl Malmquist
    Carl Malmquist Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    If you buy now you will get great discount on a buy(for the first time) or upgrade. I'm using beta 10 for mac with no problems. I have to say i love this product & am even more pumped to see what the final looks like

    buy now.
    it updates you on the fly 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    thanks

    downloading the 4.6 gb now :-)

    onto my imac . can i just transfer them to my laptop or do i download them again ?


    You can transfer them over. Here's how to do that: http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_Multiple_Macs

  • Fernando A Gonzalez
    Fernando A Gonzalez Member Posts: 401 ✭✭

    Cameron who previously referred to all of us as alphaholics.

    Finally, my disease has a name...  perhaps there will be a cure someday.

    BTW, buy now!

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    thank you everybody, so much for the great replies. I now have the software installed and now i need to figure out what i am actually looking at :-)

     

    It is a bit "over load" right now but i am sure in time i will figure out what to do :-)

     

  • I noticed your comment on the Logos Forum and wanted more info.  I just purchased a Mac and want to transfer my Logos to it.  I was thinking that I would have to use Parallels, but you said that I would have a Mac license.  How did you go about installing your logos mac version without loosing anything.  I have my resources on an external drive and wondered if I had to do something to make them accessible to the new Mac version once I install it.  Any help you can give would be deeply appreciated!

    Rosie's advice includes Wiki article that has Copy Logos 4 Windows Resources to Mac OS X section:


    You can transfer them over. Here's how to do that: http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_Multiple_Macs

    Alternative is download and install Logos 4 Mac => http://www.logos.com/logos4mac  then sign-in with Logos account - download all resources and Logos 4 information sync'd to Logos servers.  Good idea to wait for resource download and indexing to complete before using Logos 4.

    Keep Smiling [:)]


  • Tom Philpot (Faithlife)
    Tom Philpot (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,913

    thank you everybody, so much for the great replies. I now have the software installed and now i need to figure out what i am actually looking at :-)

     

    It is a bit "over load" right now but i am sure in time i will figure out what to do :-)

     

    Fritz,

    You might look at some of the suggestions in the thread Me Again for how to get acquainted with Logos 4.

     

    Mobile Development Team Lead

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    Hi Everybody

    I have spend a good 6 hours so far, and i must say this program is AMAZING....

     

    I have been living in the dark for years , but since i have become a father i have been looking for guidance as well as a "way home" .

    This program has sparked the light . THANK YOU all for such an amazing product...

    PS Thanks for the link Tom i will check it out tonight....

  • Thomas Wooded
    Thomas Wooded Member Posts: 66 ✭✭

    EDIT:  Keep Smiling beat me to it.  I replied before I saw that post!

    How did you go about installing your logos mac version without loosing anything.  I have my resources on an external drive and wondered if I had to do something to make them accessible to the new Mac version once I install it.

    Just download the Mac version from www.logos.com/logos4mac, install it and log in.  The program will automatically download your resources onto your Mac and then the your library will be indexed.  (That part takes a few hours or so depending on the speed of your Mac.)  That's all there is to it.

    You can keep your Windows copy installed and use it, and you can install it on as many of your PCs or Macs as you wish, as long as YOU are the one using it.

    MacBook Pro 13" 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo & 4GB RAM
    MacOS 10.6.6 and Windows 7 Pro

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    Hi Everybody

    I have spend a good 6 hours so far, and i must say this program is AMAZING....

     

    I have been living in the dark for years , but since i have become a father i have been looking for guidance as well as a "way home" .

    This program has sparked the light . THANK YOU all for such an amazing product...

    PS Thanks for the link Tom i will check it out tonight....

    Logos may seem like a lot at first, but it really is an amazing program. Here are some links that will be helpful to check out.

    Video Tutorials (Including the official Logos ones) http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Video_Tutorials

    The Wiki - http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I have spend a good 6 hours so far, and i must say this program is AMAZING....

    I have been living in the dark for years , but since i have become a father i have been looking for guidance as well as a "way home" .

    This program has sparked the light . THANK YOU all for such an amazing product...

    Wonderful! Congratulations on fatherhood. And welcome home! [:)]

  • Fritz R
    Fritz R Member Posts: 50 ✭✭
  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I am in Richmond BC .. :-)


    I'm in Vancouver. There are a few other Logos users up here, too: Darcy Van Horn, pastor at Renfrew Baptist on the East Side; Clinton Thomas in Surrey. And someone named Marco near Victoria (not active on the forums - just posted once in the newbies thread).