Fustrated with Gaps in Syntax Search

Gaps are frustrating (I agree), but kind of interesting. If you look at Mt. 26.60, you'll notice that opentext has tagged πολλων as a definer that modifies ψευδομαρτυρων. But there is a G A P (in Dave H's terms [;)]) between πολλων and ψευδομαρτυρων. You can see the same thing, for example, in 1 Peter 3.17. GAP is necessary if you want to find places where items are separated in the text. I'll run some searches, but apparently I am missing needed resources right now and can't run syntax searches(??). That is thoroughly unexpected.

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/20912#Comment_20912

David,

Ahh now I understand. This was also a problem in V3 too...I don't remember what they called them but when I learned about gaps there I was also taken aback...

davidphillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/20923#Comment_20923

Dave,

I can't run searches at the moment, but could you clarify what you mean when you say "I can find "gaps"...with the query below...but how do I turn that into an effective query?"

Hopefully we can close the Gap ([:S]) on this and figure it out.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/20935#Comment_20935

could you clarify what you mean when you say "I can find "gaps"...with the query below...but how do I turn that into an effective query?"

The query will find a gap like the Predicate in Matt 26:60, but it is only useful if I can specify the attributes of the item in the gap ie. how do I specify that I want only to find Predicates in the gap? This is a question that has remained unanswered for a very long time ....

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/20935#Comment_20935

Hopefully we can close the Gap () on this and figure it out.

I don't know why there is such a deafening silence on this subject. If I disgree with Logos POV, I disagree - but I have nothing to disagree with!

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/21596#Comment_21596

LOL - Does not compute...

I wish I understood half of this thread... and then I'd be a genius like you all

Sorry David, no suggestions from here

davidphillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/21176#Comment_21176

The query will find a gap like the Predicate in Matt 26:60, but it is only useful if I can specify the attributes of the item in the gap ie. how do I specify that I want only to find Predicates in the gap?

Dave,

Ok, I get the question and have access to my resources on my work computer. I went back to a blog article Rick wrote about Gaps. http://blog.logos.com/archives/2006/02/greek_syntax_gaps_happen.html#more And I've worked through his example. Here is my recreation of his search in V4

Please note one important thing: It is hard to see in the picture, but the word group that flows to the right of the Gap has "matching skips levels" selected. This is because of the Gap. Whatever flows out of the Gap must have "matching skips levels" selected or it will fail. But back to Matthew 26.60 and finding predicators. Using Rick's example, we can get the results you're looking for as follows:

EDIT - The word group and head term (not visible in the picture) coming out of the predicator are unnecessary. I put them in to be thorough, but just noticed they don't do anythign.

Again, notice that the Predicator flowing from the Gap has "matching skips levels" checked. The only result is Matthew 26:60, interestingly. I think this is starting to make sense to me.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/21634#Comment_21634

Again, notice that the Predicator flowing from the Gap has "matching skips levels" checked. The only result is Matthew 26:60, interestingly. I think this is starting to make sense to me.

And me. Thank you, David!!

Matt 26:60 is the only result because it is the only Predicator in a gap.