Is Bible Speed Search available (or will it be)?

Robert
Robert Member Posts: 196 ✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

I have looked through the program and looked searched for "Bible Speed Search" in the forum and didn't come up with an answer to this question.

Is "Bible Speed Search" (or an equivalent) available in L4 (or will it be)?

I know I can do a normal search, but I loved being able to type in the search terms and have it keep updating the hits while I was typing. This made it very easy for modifying the search or adding terms quickly to get more specific results without needing to keep running a new search (even if my search terms/settings were saved).

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  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭

    I have looked through the program and looked searched for "Bible Speed Search" in the forum and didn't come up with an answer to this question.

    Is "Bible Speed Search" (or an equivalent) available in L4 (or will it be)?

    I know I can do a normal search, but I loved being able to type in the search terms and have it keep updating the hits while I was typing. This made it very easy for modifying the search or adding terms quickly to get more specific results without needing to keep running a new search (even if my search terms/settings were saved).


     

    Bob has said else where that it is obsolete because L4 is so fast.....sorry I can't give you the link to the specific place he mentioned it, I couldn't find it easily doing a search of the forums.

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    Yes, Andrew, I saw that too  - i believe it was in one of Bob's longer replies that dealt with a number of issues.

    Steve

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  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,957

    I know I can do a normal search, but I loved being able to type in the search terms and have it keep updating the hits while I was typing.


    4.0 will not have a "search as you type" feature.

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,974

    Bradley, can you say if it will be in a later version? Say maybe 4.0c?

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  • Thomas B.
    Thomas B. Member Posts: 176 ✭✭

    I hope there will NEVER be a "search as you type" feature again. It was horrible both from usability and performance point of view. IMHO, the new search in 4.0 is blazing fast and way better then any speed search available in L3.

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    Thomas - I have the exact opposite reaction. Speed search is the only thing I am going to miss from V3.

    Jerry

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  • Greg Gray
    Greg Gray Member Posts: 136 ✭✭

    I miss the speed search as well, but have adjusted to using the new search in V4.  It would be nice if the command bar was half its length, and a speed search bar beside it - or the ability to have a speed search put in the shortcuts section.

     

    That said the new search is quick and simple enough that I don't find myself wishing for the speed search as much as I originally did.

  • Bob Pritchett
    Bob Pritchett Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,280

    A fast way to do a Bible search:

    Alt+D (puts focus in command bar)

    Type your search term

    Hit Ctrl+Enter

    It opens up a Bible search on that term for "Top Bibles", regardless of what you'd had set before.

    Ctrl+Shift+Enter will search your whole library.

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    Is there a shortcut way to tell it to do the whole Bible? When I did this with a search of Jesus it reverted to my old range, the Gospels. Do I have to run the search and then change it to Whole Bible?

  • Robert
    Robert Member Posts: 196 ✭✭

    A fast way to do a Bible search

    The problem I am having with searching isn't with starting the search feature, so much as the time required for the search itself.

    Example:

    A search for   "Search Bible in English Standard Version for god"  set to show "verses" took 60.26 seconds. Setting to "Top Bibles" was even slower. Just searching the New Testament was apx 19 seconds.

     

    The search as you type feature doesn't need to come back, but it would be good to have a search ability with reasonable speed, especially for Bibles. For other books, they aren't searched as often so a little longer isn't a problem. For Bibles, I am searching all the time, often with a string of searches in a row (looking for cross references, etc.). At this speed it can take 20 minutes just to look for 20 terms (different or refined searches) and that doesn't even leave time to look at the results.

    The thought to have a separate index for Bibles doesn't seem to be catching on. I am wondering if there is a reason why? Would this make for quicker Bible searches? (perhaps not?) Would it have other problems? I know that the search results may be separated on a search of the whole library, or any search with non-Bibles, but I think that would generally be fine. At least for me, if I want Bible results I search Bibles. If I am not specifically searching a Bible, I generally want anything but a Bible result (since I have already been studying that topic/word in the Bible. Either way, having the Bible results listed separately would not be a bad thing (in my opinion).

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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Example:

    A search for   "Search Bible in English Standard Version for god"  set to show "verses" took 60.26 seconds. Setting to "Top Bibles" was even slower. Just searching the New Testament was apx 19 seconds.

    For me the same search was about 5 sec in both cases: The "Top Bibles" and "All Bibles".





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  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    A search for   "Search Bible in English Standard Version for god"  set to show "verses" took 60.26 seconds. Setting to "Top Bibles" was even slower. Just searching the New Testament was apx 19 seconds.

     

    4636 results in 0.63 seconds...that's searcing the ESV alone.

    In top bibles it was:

    20,000 hits in 7 seconds.

     

    I think it might be time for a new laptop? [:D]

     

    My laptop is 3 years old and not a speed demon...

    Robert Pavich

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