Free Tool: QuickLink
i have built a tool using Visual Basic which works with Logos 4. It allows you to quickly position unlinked resources to that of a linked resource without having to actually link them. It runs on Windows machines that have Logos 4 installed & running. It has been tested on a Vista & Windows 7 machine (only 2 machines). It is provided free and as is and is not guarantied to be without bugs.
Please download and read the guide first (the guide PDF is at the bottom of this post)
Here is the installation program zipped:
Here is a Guide for the program. It will explain:
- How it works
- How to install the program
- 6765.QuickLinks Guide.pdf
Comments
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As it will install .NET 4 if necessary it will require Admin privilege; which is also required if it installs to any Program Files .. folder. Will it be available to all users or is it a per-user program?
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
which is also required if it installs to any Program Files .. folder.
VB 2010 Express create click-once installation files which are placed in C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\...
Dave Hooton said:Will it be available to all users or is it a per-user program?
i am guessing it is per user since the above location is in the Users\<user> folder
Per info on MSDN (to the best of my understanding) it says user should not need Admin privilege (but i put that info in the guide since i had not tried that method of installation)
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Hi Steve
Thanks for L4 tool. The problem is that when I install it on my Home Vista machine it comes up with an error message saying the program has stopped working. No L4 icon appears on the desktop either. It shows up in the list of programs & when I try to run it from there it brings up the original box saying program has stopped working. Any ideas? Thanks, Gerald
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Hi Gerald,
Sorry to hear that you are having a problem.
Gerald Rodgers said:No L4 icon appears on the desktop either
You should have L4 running first. Then start the QL program. Did QL program install? Do you see the QL icon on your desktop?
Did you follow the installation instructions in the Guide?
A screenshot might be useful.
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Hi Steve
Thanks for a very prompt reply. Still having problems installing the program. When I run setup it goes through all steps but then comes up with a box saying the program has stopped working. At the same time NO icon appears on the desktop. Any possibility that an AV program might be the problem? Thanks again. Gerald
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Hi Steve
Me again! Here is a full copy of error message that accompanied the error message:
Description:
Stopped working
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: l4 quicklink.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 4dcf3d33
Problem Signature 04: L4 QuickLink
Problem Signature 05: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 4dcf3d33
Problem Signature 07: 1f
Problem Signature 08: a6
Problem Signature 09: System.InvalidOperationException
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Hope this help.
Gerald
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Hi Gerald,
Gerald Rodgers said:Here is a full copy of error message
Could you look in Program from the Start menu to see if QuickLink is there? (See image below)
i think that the installation has worked, but an error message is occurring for a different reason.
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Thank you Steve [:D]
Also thanks for the video http://clark-tx.net/temp/QL%20Video.htm
Could you please post the add-on links for the shortcut bar for A-F. I would definitely like to have them.
Thanks again for this quick help tool.
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Update: new copy of QuickLink
Changes white text in QL window to black text.
Before installing, PLEASE make sure that QL is not open (right click in the QL icon in the notification bar and click on Exit).
Make sure that Logos 4 is running and stable before installing QuickLinks.
See this webpage (at the bottom) for the latest QuickLinks installation program.
(Forum editor is not allowing me to add the zip file today)0 -
steve clark said:
See this webpage (at the bottom) for the latest QuickLinks installation program.
Thank you Steve. That changes it to black nicely.
Now I can't wait to get the A-F shortcuts for the toolbar[:D]
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Praiser said:
Now I can't wait to get the A-F shortcuts for the toolbar
i will work on it later. i need to get ready and go to church for our visitation tonight. When i get home i will work on documentation for installing these helper programs. This need to be document a little before blindly adding them. i may decide to add a webpage to provide these with instructions. The forum editor was not allow me to add the zip files today (the file was less than 1MB)
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OK, i have a website setup with installation for QuickLinks and the Helper Apps. This will help in keeping the most current version of the programs in one place as well as documentation and installation instructions.
I guess there is not much interest in this program, only 3 people have responded. If i see more people interested in using this software i will post additions that i might make to the software.
Hope ya'll find the tool useful.
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Wow! [:|]
Only just watched the video ... now I see ... thank you.
The 6 mini links will be particularly useful ... and just when I though Mac was almost prime ... something on the M$ box that looks like a deal breaker!
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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Hi Steve
Yes the Quicklink is in the Start Menu.
Regards
Gerald
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steve clark said:
i am guessing it is per user since the above location is in the Users\<user> folder
It is per-user.
I note that after L4 is restarted with QL still running an Unhandled Exception is generated when clicking a QL shortcut. It would be useful to have an Exit/Stop shortcut OR handle the exception ie. effectively restart QL.
Also note that the QL shortcut is not necessary if you have Helper shortcut(s).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Hi Steve
Forgot to say I uninstalled the program in order to try reinstalling.
This time around I don't get Quicklink showing in the program menu.
Interested in your comments and any help you can offer please.
Regards
Gerald
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steve clark said:
OK, i have a website setup with installation for QuickLinks and the Helper Apps. This will help in keeping the most current version of the programs in one place as well as documentation and installation instructions.
I guess there is not much interest in this program, only 3 people have responded. If i see more people interested in using this software i will post additions that i might make to the software.
Hope ya'll find the tool useful.
Thank you Steve. Installation was quick and easy with great documentation. [Y] I especially like the Helper Links in the toolbar. Nice addition.
Thanks again for sharing![:D]
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Steve, may the Lord bless you for allowing yourself to be used for the talents God has entusted you. I was using different softwares beside Logos ,when I wanted to open another study ,then my layout had to change and that was not easy for me ,so instead of that I had to open another software ,but now with the quick link you have created I am very gald ,now I really appriciate your efforts to meet our needs.
Blessings in Christ.
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Dave Hooton said:
I note that after L4 is restarted with QL still running an Unhandled Exception is generated
Thanks for the info!
i added function to close QL when it senses that L4 has closed. i also added a lot more 'On Error' handling as well as improved details in the Logfile. The logfile is now located in the user's MyDocs folder under the name QL_Logfile.txt (so if i need a user to post it they can find it). When QL starts it checks the size of this file and if it is > 10M it erases it (to help keep oversized logfile in a users system).
The updated file is on the website: QuickLinks page
Dave Hooton said:Also note that the QL shortcut is not necessary if you have Helper shortcut(s).
That was already noted as the last line of instruction on the Helper page (item #3)
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Gerald Rodgers said:
Interested in your comments and any help you can offer please.
Did you try and follow the installation instruction on this website: Installing QL ? Please use this new update.
What country do you live in? (for knowing your timezone)
Could you leave your email address in the form of (you at mailprovider dot com) in a reply to this post, then i can contact you via email. Be sure when leaving your email that you follow the form mentioned so spam bots don't get your email address.0 -
Thanks Martin, Praiser, & Tes!
Hope you enjoy it. You might want to check the QL Top Page for updates from time to time.
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Thank YOU for your work, Steve. I hope you don't over-interpret the pattern of responses as 'not interested' etc. In my case, as I first read your thread and then later, each time I re-thought my work flow and how it would fit in. I suspect Bible study is a slow incrementing of habits, as new possibilities show up. Thank you, again!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Hi Steve
Uninstalled old program & reinstalled new one with Logos 4 open but still the same problem. Nothing on the desktop or in notification bar & as well program came up with the same error message: program stopped working. Here is my email address: gr42@mail.dot.com. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Just to say I followed the new instructions to the letter.
Regards
Gerald
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Gerald Rodgers said:
Here is my email address:
Gerald, got it. Now please edit the above post of yours and delete the email address!!
EDIT: your email address did not work.
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steve clark said:
I guess there is not much interest in this program
Hi Steve,
I bet there are lots of people who downloaded it and it worked. It is a much needed addition, one that I have asked for many times (don't let my post count fool you, it was reset recently) as well as on user voice too.
I am having the crash right after launching. It installed, but did not create the desktop link. I created a shortcut, copied it into the L4 task bar and launched from there. I will try the new version in a bit. I am tight for time so it will not happen for a few hours.
I am running it on vista.
I will touch base later.
Again, thanks.
Clinton
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What is
interesting is: I opened a scripture verse from Word document, when I clicked
on it; it opened my standard Bible version and linked to the next alphabet
which was free, no disorder on my layout. I can study simultaneously five different
topics. I am very excited.God bless you Steve.
Blessings in Christ.
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Thank you for providing this very useful tool, I have installed it on a Windows 7 machine and it works fine. I'm glad you went to the trouble of producing the video because I didn't really see how useful this would be until I saw it in action.
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steve clark said:
i added function to close QL when it senses that L4 has closed. i also added a lot more 'On Error' handling as well as improved details in the Logfile.
The update works well. Thanks, Steve.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Steve, Dean here. I’ve been following the different postings for some time now but have never interacted with any till now. Thank you for the time you have invested in this tool. After seeing the video I understand how it works. I'm impressed with it and will be using it. I would hope that as more folks see the value the more hits you will get. Please be encouraged that your work has not gone unobserved. May God continue to bless you.
Thanks again, Dean Price
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Denise Barnhart said:
I hope you don't over-interpret the pattern of responses as 'not interested' etc.
First thank you for your response! Your response has helped bring others to leave a response on the post. The idea for this came about a week ago and it took me several days to get it working. Then it took a day or 2 to get it documented and presentable. i was very excited when i got it working and find several uses of the program. Yes i was disappointed when no one else replied to the post. But i decided to go ahead and invest more time to build a webpage for the tool. As it is it takes considerable time to make it presentable for others to use and not so much for my own use. But it seems there are a few of you interested in the program. So as it progresses i will drop a line in this post. i have a few other ideas that i want to pursue. And if they work out i will document and add them to the website.
Thanks again for letting me know it is useful to you!
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Clinton Thomas said:
I am having the crash right after launching. It installed, but did not create the desktop link. I created a shortcut, copied it into the L4 task bar and launched from there. I will try the new version in a bit. I am tight for time so it will not happen for a few hours.
Clinton,
i tried to email a debug version of QL to you, but your email address quit working. If you email me again i can send you the debug version of QL which should help identify the problem.
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Hi Steve,
I received the new zip file at 8:06 tonight. It worked fine, so my .net install is probably OK.
Unless gmail was down, my email should still be OK....Unless I am being removed from the NET....
Regards,
Clinton
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Is anyone running this utility with Logos Beta (4.3 beta 5) under vista?
If so could you let me know?
Thanks,
Clinton
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steve clark said:
i have built a tool using Visual Basic which works with Logos 4. It allows you to quickly position unlinked resources to that of a linked resource without having to actually link them.
I'm all for finding shortcuts and easier ways of doing things, but I don't get the usefulness of this. Why not just use the Logos links? If I want a resource to go to the location of another, I can just link it to the (link) letter the desired resource is set to and unlink it when I don't want the connection anymore. I admit your way might take a few less mouse clicks. Did I overlook something?
Have a great day,
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Hi Jim,
Jim said:I'm all for finding shortcuts and easier ways of doing things, but I don't get the usefulness of this. Why not just use the Logos links?
There are a couple of things that come to mind and i am guessing that you already watched the short video demo on the website.
A. Often i will have one or more Bibles open and studying a scripture passage.
And i will have a commentary open as well. If i am reading in the commentary and scroll down it as i am reading it moves my Bible location as i scroll the commentary. And i often want & do refer to the Bible passage when seeing what the commentator had to say to see if i agreed with their comments. Using the QL tool allows me to locate the commentary to the passage without linking the commentary. Then if i scroll around i still can view my Bible passage as i read through the commentary without interruption.B. Often i will have multiple Bibles open to related scripture passages which occur in different Bible books or other parts of the same Bible book.
In this case using QL allows me to jump in my commentary to any of the above Bible books so that i can review what a commentary says on that particular passage. Yes QL doesn't do this with multi-volume commentaries (L4's API for navigating does not automatically pull up the associated passage with the right series commentary, not much i can do there).These are just a couple of uses that i have for QL. The few others that i have spoken with have found QL useful too. This may not suit your needs and i can appreciate that. But if you haven't watched the short video i made, then i would encourage you to view it if you have any interest in alternate linking methods as you implied.
Thanks for your comment!
EDIT: for the link to the QL website, see QLinks below in my signature.
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If you have multiple computers with Logos 4 installed, you may have noticed problems with the Helper App shortcuts in your Logos 4 shortcuts bar not functioning in your other computers.
There is a method explained on this webpage:
Helper
App shortcuts in Logos 4 on multiple computers which will have them working on each of your computers.0 -
Thanks for your work.
But my eyes cannot follow the cursor fast enough to even figure out what is happening. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and I agree. But without some words I'm just not "getting" it.
[But thanks for all you are doing on the forums]
Regards, SteveF
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SteveF said:
But my eyes cannot follow the cursor fast enough to even figure out what is happening. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and I agree. But without some words I'm just not "getting" it.
Hi Steve,
What part are you not getting? How to use QuickLinks? (see video demo here). (it does have audio)
Or is it the Helper Apps that you don't understand?
EDIT: Do you have Team Viewer? if so i can send you a ID & PW and show you on my computer.
EDIT2: is there something i could create which would assist you? i.e. another video and move the mouse more slowly & telling in the audio where i am placing the mouse. What would help you?
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Hey Steve! So I'm just reading about your little app here and was wondering: what is the point behind it? I'm not really sure I'm understanding what it would be useful to me for. Can you give me an example?
Thanks! [:D]
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Hi Carmen,
Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell said:what is the point behind it? I'm not really sure I'm understanding what it would be useful to me for. Can you give me an example?
Did you see this post http://community.logos.com/forums/p/33327/250569.aspx#250569 where i explained a couple of uses? Also did you see the video demo?
In a brief explanation (i need to get ready for evening church in a few minutes):
It allows you to navigate a selected unlinked book in L4 to the position of one of your linked books. This allows you to read & scroll in the unlinked window without disturbing your linked window. After explaining it to my son, he calls the unlinked window a catch-all window. Using this tool prevents my linked windows from being moved off my study verse while i am viewing stuff in the catch-all window. [catch-all window is not what i would call it, because i often have a couple of unlinked windows that i move to locations i use.]
One particular mode i like in an unlinked Bible is when i set it to Send Hyperlinks Here. Then i have footnoted passages navigate that window, then i might want it navigated back to where one of my linked Bibles is located.
So if you have seen the video, please let me know. Maybe i need to remake that video with more detail or even make a different one showing some examples.
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Regards, SteveF
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steve clark said:
It allows you to navigate a selected unlinked book in L4 to the position of one of your linked books. This allows you to read & scroll in the unlinked window without disturbing your linked window. After explaining it to my son, he calls the unlinked window a catch-all window. Using this tool prevents my linked windows from being moved off my study verse while i am viewing stuff in the catch-all window. [catch-all window is not what i would call it, because i often have a couple of unlinked windows that i move to locations i use.]
That part now makes sense to me. Thanks
Regards, SteveF
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Updated QuickLinks to reposition unlinked:
- Text Comparison
- CitedBy
- Explorer
See the update notes for other details.
See QLinks in my signature below to get to the QuickLinks webpage.
EDIT: see video demo of this new feature: QL with tools
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steve clark said:
Updated QuickLinks to reposition unlinked:
- Text Comparison
- CitedBy
- Explorer
See the update notes for other details.
See QLinks in my signature below to get to the QuickLinks webpage.
EDIT: see video demo of this new feature: QL with tools
Thank you for this latest improvement. GREAT![:D][Y]
Your time, effort and sharing are MUCH APPRECIATED[{][}]
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Hi Steve
I've only just now had the opportunity to install QuickLinks.
It looks as though it is going to be really useful.
Great job and thanks for sharing
Graham
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Hi Graham,
Graham Criddle said:I've only just now had the opportunity to install QuickLinks.
If you downloaded the installer from the forum, then you do not have the latest version. You will need to go to the website QuickLinks (see link in my signature below) to get the most up to date version, as well as access to the other Helper Apps that you can also install.
Hope that it is useful to you as you anticipate,
steve
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After doing the reboot I mentioned in my earlier post, I tried to load this program and it refused to load...something was missing, I think.
I'll try again, I suppose, since this sounds like sonething I would get use from.
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"The Unbelievable Work...believe it or not." Little children...Biblical prophecy is not Christianity's friend.
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Just tried to load this again and got the following...
Error: Could NOT establish communications with Logos 4 COM.
Error HRESULT_FAIL has been returned from a call to a COM component.
Any ideas how I should proceed?
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