Reading on other e-Readers?
One thing I would very much like to do is read my Logos books on my Nook. It seems the Vyrso could be a step in that direction, especially since I read the Vyrso books can be read in both Logos and the Vyrso e-Reader app. I guess the larger question is: Can Vyrso books be read on dedicated e-reader devices like the Kindle or the Nook? Or is the format proprietary and only compatible with the Vyrso reader? And, toward my personal concern, will some (or all) Logos books be reverse-engineered to work with Vyrso?
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Geoff Johnson said:
will some (or all) Logos books be reverse-engineered to work with Vyrso?
They already are. Every book that works with the Logos App also works with the Vyrso App. In many ways, they are the same App. The big difference is that Vyrso is more dedicated towards reading and the Logos app is geared towards study. In my opinion, the real news here is not the Vyrso app reader, but that Logos is moving into trade books. They are suggesting that they will have 25,000 books by the end of the year. Hopefully we will be able to get books on their release date or shortly after.
Vyrso will introduce Logos to thousands of new people, which is a GOOD thing. When Apple created the iPod (and then the iPad), it created a "Halo" effect. People who had never considered a Mac were now giving them a close look, and many switched. I predict the same thing will happen here.
When it comes to "christian fiction" (i.e. "Left Behind"), I could really care less. What I am excited about is to read books from authors like Francis Chan, Mark Driscoll, Andy Stanley, etc. If these books become available on Vyrso, they will also be in my Logos Library. If I search for a subject, these books will also appear in my search results. Notes, highlights, clippings can be added. These features are not currently available on the iPad app, but hopefully they will be soon. For now, however, they are available in Logos.
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Geoff Johnson said:
Can Vyrso books be read on dedicated e-reader devices like the Kindle or the Nook? Or is the format proprietary and only compatible with the Vyrso reader? And, toward my personal concern, will some (or all) Logos books be reverse-engineered to work with Vyrso?
Let me answer your questions in this order:
(2) Vyrso uses a proprietary format. So you'll need an app to read it on other platforms (or an internet connection so you can read at biblia.com)
(3) The proprietary format is the Logos format. So already, you can read all Vyrso books on Logos and vice-versa.
(1) Kindle do not allow the apps of other eBook readers on its platform, so you won't see it there. Nook is basically an Android device, so when Vyrso for Android is launched it ought to work. But Nook don't allow Android apps either (unless you hack it).
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Assuming we can read these books with Logos (anyone know this yet?) then I would guess the current workaround for Kindle involving exporting and re-formatting will still work.
Kenny
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Kenny Larsen said:
Assuming we can read these books with Logos (anyone know this yet?) then I would guess the current workaround for Kindle involving exporting and re-formatting will still work.
Kenny
As Mark has already answered: Yes, Vyrso books are readable in Logos 4. So the workaround will still work.
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Thanks Theolobias, that will teach me to read replies properly!
Kenny
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Kenny Larsen said:
Thanks Theolobias, that will teach me to read replies properly!
Kenny
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There is a work arround for Kindle???
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TomB said:
There is a work arround for Kindle???
In L4 you can print 100 pages of the book to a PDF then email it to your Kindle.
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Mark Barnes said:
Nook is basically an Android device, so when Vyrso for Android is launched it ought to work. But Nook don't allow Android apps either (unless you hack it).
Actually B&N has an app market that could allow that to happen. That would require Logos to submit the app to B&N and B&N to approve it. B&N may not because they could look at Logos as a competitor, but they do allow Google to post books directaly in the B&N store. Also they would probably add the logos format to their reader just to make it more versatile as a reader IF Logos let them. (then Logos could still sell the books and let us "side load" them onto our nooks. :-)
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Mark Barnes said:TomB said:
There is a work arround for Kindle???
In L4 you can print 100 pages of the book to a PDF then email it to your Kindle.
Awesome, My Nook has PDF support too.
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Could you elaborate on the workaround? I'm on the verge of buying a Kindle and would like to be able to read these books on it.
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Thanks so much for the info on copying to a PDF for the Kindle...my Kindle goes everywhere with me so that is wonderful news!
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Michael Mawhorter said:
Could you elaborate on the workaround? I'm on the verge of buying a Kindle and would like to be able to read these books on it.
The 'workaround' is this:
- Install a PDF printer driver on your computer.
- Use Print/Export in Logos to 'print' upto 100 pages of your book to PDF.
- Email the PDF to your kindle using the email address Amazon provide.
More info on points (1) and (2) is found here http://www.logos4training.com/videos/exporting/ (though if you're not familiar with printing from Logos you might prefer to watching the printing video first).
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I find pdf files almost unreadable on my Kindle because the font is so small.
I have simply copied and pasted books from Logos that I want to read while I'm travelling and saved them in text format in Notepad or Word, then copied them across to my Kindle using the USB cord and they are very readable.
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Roger Pitot said:
I find pdf files almost unreadable on my Kindle because the font is so small.
In Logos you can increase the size of the font before you print to PDF: http://wiki.logos.com/Print$2fExport#Changing_the_Font_size
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Thank you Mark, I'll check it out.
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You can also find lots of free ways to convert the pdf to an epub or other ebook format so that you can adjust the font size in kindle.
I have had trouble with Greek text in such work arounds.
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I tried converting a PDF document to ePub using calibre - it wasn't pretty. I'd stay with the PDF output from Logos 4 - it preserves the formating of the original nicely. Q: viewing a PDF in Kindle - do the page turns work OK? I'm still deciding what e-Reader to purchase. Thanks.
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Simon said:
I tried converting a PDF document to ePub using calibre - it wasn't pretty. I'd stay with the PDF output from Logos 4 - it preserves the formating of the original nicely. Q: viewing a PDF in Kindle - do the page turns work OK? I'm still deciding what e-Reader to purchase. Thanks.
This is not from Logos, but I tried reading a PDF from another source on my Kindle. Page turns worked but the fonts were rather small and hard to read, and links didn't work properly. I ended up having to use Mobipocket Creator to convert PDF to .mobi and then copy to my Kindle. The resulting links worked and the formatting was decent. Your results may vary depending on the source text.
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I do it in a similar manner, but:
- If you export to HTML then it's easier to add blocks of 100 pages together to get the whole book.
- I use Calibre from HTML and get almost perfect conversion to Kindle format - with a few minor changes to the default processing options (which unhelpfully I've forgotten which they were)
- Generally avoiding PDF anywhere in the process seems to help!
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There's another thread, which I'm not going to take the time to locate, that gives a simpler workaround. What I now do is: have an A6 template in Word 2007 ( for Kindle docs). Copy 100 pages at a time into this A6 template. Then select all text and format font to Arial ?12. Save, in case of later problems. Then Save As PDF, and transfer to Kindle.
It's even possible to save PDF files as text, put them into Word A6 template and save them again as PDF A6. Sometimes the font needs to be smaller with this workaround, as I haven't found a way of doing word wrap. So I play with it till it mainly fits into the A6 format without running over to the next line.
This way I don't have to send it to Amazon, Calibre, Mobi etc and get it back before transferring it.
I tend to use Kindle for non-Logos books, but have one or 2 Logos books on the go. Have read a volume of Spurgeon on Kindle and am now enjoying Charlie Moule. In general I use iPad as Ereader for Logos books. Kindle for bedside reading and in bright sunlight, which makes iPad hot under the collar....
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That's helpful. Thanks Daniel.
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The Vyrso app will not install on a ColorNook that has been rooted(hacked) to run as an android tablet. Just tried today and no go.
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Thanks for the help in this forum.
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