Logos Discount for Packages going away??

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277311#Comment_277311

I got the message, not knowing discounts were on offer.

And the link didn't work.

But the advertising did - I'm planning to upgrade to platinum. They don't tell us how much time we have...

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277358#Comment_277358

If you follow the "MORE" link at the bottom of the article, it will take you to a page with additional information. Still no deadline is given.

Adam Navarrete

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277304#Comment_277304

Dominick,

Thanks for pointing this out. We have removed the "upgrade discounts" text link to avoid further confusion. Like Floyd mentions, the "More" link at the bottom will take you to the appropriate page, in addition to clicking the headline.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277452#Comment_277452

I did some sums on upgrade discount and worked out that my special personalised discount was about 10% less than the difference in price between the package I have now (Scholars) and the package to which I'm thinking of upgrading (Platinum). I was rather disappointed, as I've ordered millions of prepubs, which they say they take into account. I'm waiting to see if my sales rep can offer me a lower price - tho he must be sick of me not accepting his offers. This time I intend to take it.

Edwin Bowden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277465#Comment_277465

Platinum is a great pkg. I have really enjoyed having it.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277465#Comment_277465

I did some sums on upgrade discount and worked out that my special personalised discount was about 10% less than the difference in price between the package I have now (Scholars) and the package to which I'm thinking of upgrading (Platinum). I was rather disappointed, as I've ordered millions of prepubs, which they say they take into account. I'm waiting to see if my sales rep can offer me a lower price - tho he must be sick of me not accepting his offers. This time I intend to take it.

I dunno Nicky... I took the time to compare my Silver Scholar's against the Platinum.... the vast majority of additional resources are original language tools that are of limited value to me (not classically trained in Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic/OtherEsotericLanguages/Latin .... I'm not saying that there isn't value in the upgrade, but I think I'd prefer to drop several hundred on hand-picked cc/pre-pubs at this point.

Anyone else have an opinion?

AA7163

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277511#Comment_277511

For me the main differences were

NIGTC commentaries (really good)

Pillar Commentaries (eceptional)

Opening up Commentaries (decent depending onwhat you are doing)

BDAG (not helpful to you)

A few other original language resources are helpful and a few random other books

I got an academic discount though, so weather the price difference for you is worth it or not for those items is up to you. For me, it was worth it with BDAG alone and since I got the rest, it was a no-brainer to upgrade.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277511#Comment_277511

New American commentary -$500.

Classic commentaries on Greek NT $200

Holman's NT commentary -$150

All useful to me. And lots of interesting stuff thrown in,

e.g.

History of the Jewish P0eple - $180

History of the Oxford Movement $125

And lots of commentaries I may or may not use. When I'm really stuck I go through them all unless or until I find an answer to my questions. Not very often, but it happens sometimes.

Sales rep did generously, and quickly, come up with a special price for a valued customer - always worth getting in touch with a sales rep. I deplore the necessity, but appreciate the sales rep's helpfulness.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277519#Comment_277519

PS hadn't noticed BDAG. And hadn't heard Pillar so strongly recommended.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277521#Comment_277521

PS hadn't noticed BDAG. And hadn't heard Pillar so strongly recommended.

Hum, I already have most of the resources that both of you mentioned (and even for a slacker like me, the BDAG is hugely useful, and I bought it on the cheap during the Forum Sale a couple months ago. Gratz on the steep discount via sales rep!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277256#Comment_277256

My guess is that they are not going away - but prices are going up. Thus the discounted prices will similarly be adjusted. Get your upgrades before the prices go up.

If you are suggesting a a price increase in the regular selling price of the base packages (in addition to the loss of the current sales discount off the upgrade prices) I would say you are probably right. The whole line of Perseus resources requires Logos 4.3. Many Libronix users will upgrade to get that content. The newly released Personal Book Tool is another great selling point. I recall many saying they won't upgrade until they have that feature. That day has arrived! Logos 4.3 is worth a lot more than any previous version. Why not upgrade your resource content along with the program features? Base package upgrades are the cheapest way to get resources. Word studies yield amazing results when you have the Scholar's package or higher. You don't even have to know Hebrew or Greek.

Logos 4 shipped around the first of November 2009. Because it was such a major (completely new) release of the software, generous discounts were offered on upgrade packages to woo the masses. Those discounts ended around the third week of January 2010. When Logos says a sale is ending soon, it is not a gimmick.

Rick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277256#Comment_277256

My guess is that they are not going away - but prices are going up. Thus the discounted prices will similarly be adjusted. Get your upgrades before the prices go up.

I am curious as to how much they might be going up. When Logos went to KF there were a lot very good resources taken away from some of the higher packages. I have Scholar's Silver. With a lot of those resources not being available in an upgrade to Gold it has drained a lot of my incentive to upgrade any further and as far as I know, nothing has been offered as a replacement for those removed.

I too, am getting to where I just add individual resources instead of upgrading. I know that the upgrades are still a good/better deal but I already have a ton of resources that I don't use or have no idea of how to use. This is probably because I am not a scholar using a scholar's package [:)]

Frank Sauer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277542#Comment_277542

I'm at Scholar's Silver with some add ons, for me I think there is a point of overkill on resources. I have to be honest with myself as to whether the cost to upgrade to another package is worth the use of the resources I gain.

Right now for me, Gold and Platinum do not have enough resources that I would consistently use in comparison to what I already have in Silver to justify the cost. Now Portfolio on the other hand, has a good selection of Commentaries I'd like to have, but also a ton of stuff I have no interest in, so $2800 is way to costly for my budget.

Really like Silver a lot though!

BillS

Even with discount, Portfolio (next step up) was already out of reach, so I guess I'll never notice how much more out of reach it is without the discount. [:D]

Scott S

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277521#Comment_277521

And hadn't heard Pillar so strongly recommended.

See their rankings at Best Commentaries

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277657#Comment_277657

Even with discount, Portfolio (next step up) was already out of reach, so I guess I'll never notice how much more out of reach it is without the discount.

I really wish there were two more intermediate packages between Platinum and Portfolio. The present jump is so big and the Portfolio collection is, by Logos' own description, "not for everyone." I would also like to see an all-encompassing package. Maybe call it the "I've died and gone to Heaven" package and throw everything in it. They would have to offer a 5 year payment plan on it. and annual update fees for all new volumes added.

Reminds me of Takayama beach just east of Sendai, Japan.. A group of missionaries had secured a 999 year lease of the beach and a couple dozen cabins right after WW2. It looked like a good deal until the earthquake and tsunami washed everything away this year. [:'(]

Rev. Nannette La Fosse

Staying in Platinum with extras. Wondering if Logos 5 is around the corner or major "updates" will be done to packages. The way Logos seems to work is offering the discount upfront [community pricing/pre- publication]. Maybe they are going to add more resources to each packege in the new version and they are giving us the last chance. Platinum to Portfolio is too big the jump. Can we get something less '"technical" in between Platinum and Portfolio? I need more commentaries and extras and less languages after all the ones I got in Platinum.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277702#Comment_277702

Wondering if Logos 5 is around the corner or major "updates" will be done to packages

Its always fun to speculate, and although Prophecy is one of my spiritual gifts... I'd have long since been stoned for being wrong. That being said, it seems a little incongruous to me that Logos would release a major feature like PBB and then quickly leap to a major version upgrade (from L4.x to L5) without capitalizing the investment in programming/testing hours. If I recall correctly, there is already a L4.5 beta spinning up, so it would seem that a point release vs. version release is next in the pipe.

Like you, I'm happy with my base package (Silver), and continue to add specific resources to my library as cc/pre-pub makes them available (and viable from a cost perspective). However, I understand from at least one other forum user that stupendous deals can be had by calling a sales rep instead of relying on the Upgrade Discounter (Shhhh! That may be a secret!!).

Edwin Bowden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277678#Comment_277678

I really wish there were two more intermediate packages between Platinum and Portfolio. The present jump is so big and the Portfolio collection is, by Logos' own description, "not for everyone."

I agree.

I jumped from Gold to Platinum when it became available. Portfolio is out of my reach and interest.

I would certainly be interested in upgrading to an intermediate pkg.

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277657#Comment_277657

Even with discount, Portfolio (next step up) was already out of reach, so I guess I'll never notice how much more out of reach it is without the discount.

ditto

BillS

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277678#Comment_277678

I really wish there were two more intermediate packages between Platinum and Portfolio. The present jump is so big

Me, too... I'll keep saying it: I can handle about a $300 upgrade each year, but absent one I'll have to content myself with CP.

BillS

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277521#Comment_277521

And hadn't heard Pillar so strongly recommended.

I'm getting to know Pillar's Matthew commentary... and it is exceptional. I'd never heard of it prior to owning it (it was in one of Logos' bygone gifts or deals, no longer remember which). I'd be interested in the others, based on what I see in Mt.

Edwin Bowden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277854#Comment_277854

And hadn't heard Pillar so strongly recommended.

I'm getting to know Pillar's Matthew commentary... and it is exceptional. I'd never heard of it prior to owning it (it was in one of Logos' bygone gifts or deals, no longer remember which). I'd be interested in the others, based on what I see in Mt.

I have liked everything that I have used in Pillar. I had used Mark (in print) extensively and convinced me to get the set. Leading authors do the volumes.

Danny Baskin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277898#Comment_277898

Haven't seen anything yet in the Pillar set that's poor; I've got everything out so far in Logos, and it's all good.

Ron

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277763#Comment_277763

However, I understand from at least one other forum user that stupendous deals can be had by calling a sales rep instead of relying on the Upgrade Discounter (Shhhh! That may be a secret!!).

Apparently that doesn't apply to everyone, or you have to be "special" or something [:p]...I contacted sales yesterday regarding upgrading to Platinum and was given the same price as what the Upgrade Discounter offers [:(]

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277936#Comment_277936

Apparently that doesn't apply to everyone, or you have to be "special" or something ...I contacted sales yesterday regarding upgrading to Platinum and was given the same price as what the Upgrade Discounter offers

Same here , Logos can make you feel like a second class customer sometimes.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277936#Comment_277936

Same with me...

Rick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277936#Comment_277936

Apparently that doesn't apply to everyone, or you have to be "special" or something ...I contacted sales yesterday regarding upgrading to Platinum and was given the same price as what the Upgrade Discounter offers

I think that Logos has kind of put the brakes on giving any further discounts on most items, even when calling or emailing sales. There may be some kind of formula (Buy $XXXXX worth of stuff per time/year) that they use but if there is, I don't fall into that category. My experience on the last few items has been no discounts. Yesterday, I was wanting to download the Amplified Bible and emailed sales two different links with two different prices but they would not budge under the lowest price in the two links.

http://www.logos.com/product/4118/the-amplified-bible $39.95

http://www.logos.com/product/8734/nas-electronic-bible-library $29.99

My buying during non-sales has had to definitely slow down since they quit working with me on prices.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/277991#Comment_277991

Yesterday, I was wanting to download the Amplified Bible and emailed sales two different links with two different prices but they would not budge under the lowest price in the two links.

http://www.logos.com/product/4118/the-amplified-bible $39.95

http://www.logos.com/product/8734/nas-electronic-bible-library $29.99

Isn't it funny how you can get 12 extra volumes in addition to the Amplified Bible and save $10 in the process;? ~ all because you buy it in a collection! I do believe buying in bundles and collections gives you a lot more for your money.

There may be some kind of formula (Buy $XXXXX worth of stuff per time/year) that they use but if there is, I don't fall into that category.

I'm still trying to figure out the formula. I save a lot with certain buying practices but there is no discernible formula to project my best discount. With the many dollars I've spent I would figure I could get a huge discount when I bought my wife the Bible Study Library. Nope. I paid the regular price for it. I waited a few years for Barth's Church Dogmatics before I finally caved and bought it at a modest savings.

The really telling part is when I ask my sales rep I may get special offers that have widely varying percentages. One resource may be heavily discounted while another is not. Sometimes he can do nothing better than the current email offer. (Other times, I am highly impressed.)

There has got to be a secret formula, I just don't know what it is.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/278021#Comment_278021

With the many dollars I've spent I would figure I could get a huge discount when I bought my wife the Bible Study Library. Nope. I paid the regular price for it.

Almost afraid to broach this subject... but I thought that Logos was fine with a single family under the same roof using the same account.... am I mistaken? It just seemed odd that you would buy a lesser package when she could access your (presumably) much larger base package with addins.

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/278026#Comment_278026

With the many dollars I've spent I would figure I could get a huge discount when I bought my wife the Bible Study Library. Nope. I paid the regular price for it.

Almost afraid to broach this subject... but I thought that Logos was fine with a single family under the same roof using the same account.... am I mistaken? It just seemed odd that you would buy a lesser package when she could access your (presumably) much larger base package with addins.

no fear. you are essentially correct, according to what Bob P has stated. Super Tramp had his own reasons. Peace.

Rick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/278021#Comment_278021

Isn't it funny how you can get 12 extra volumes in addition to the Amplified Bible and save $10 in the process;? ~ all because you buy it in a collection! I do believe buying in bundles and collections gives you a lot more for your money.

Since I already owned all of the other books in the collection I did not know how Logos 4 would handle it. It just treated the other books as an update and classified the Amplified as a New Resource. So it all worked out. Saved $10 too [:)]

There has got to be a secret formula, I just don't know what it is.

LOL... I understand that others purchase waaaay more than I do so if Logos does give them more special offers than me, I can live with it. If there is a secret formula I applaud Logos for giving their biggest customers a price break. As I have mentioned before, I don't expect a discount at my local Bible bookstore but I do appreciate the preferred customer coupons that I get in the mail from them!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/278029#Comment_278029

With the many dollars I've spent I would figure I could get a huge discount when I bought my wife the Bible Study Library. Nope. I paid the regular price for it.
Almost afraid to broach this subject... but I thought that Logos was fine with a single family under the same roof using the same account.... am I mistaken? It just seemed odd that you would buy a lesser package when she could access your (presumably) much larger base package with addins.
no fear. you are essentially correct, according to what Bob P has stated. Super Tramp had his own reasons. Peace.

[li] Yes, I do. [li] It was worth the price to hide the order history page from curios eyes. When I die and she finally sees it, she may raise me from the dead just so she can kill me, again. Naw She just want's me to be happy. And since I want my wife to be happy, I keep buying Logos books. (vicious cycle)

There are a couple good reasons to have two licenses in a home. It keeps your personal preferences and data separate. Bob Pritchett is kind to allow my minor children to use my Logos. But I have learned giving unrestricted access to little kids can really mess up a computer. My wife can share her account with the little ones and it could be restored quickly. When my children have need of Near Eastern studies, Hebrew grammars, or NICOT/NICNT, I figure they will also be mature enough to not mess it all up or cancel my Pre-Pubs.

fyi: I have 13 children and when school starts next week I will have the "in-house" kids down to seven. That means the Bible college freshman will be numbered with the "out-house" kids.

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/278038#Comment_278038

fyi: I have 13 children and when school starts next week I will have the "in-house" kids down to seven. That means the Bible college freshman will be numbered with the "out-house" kids.

blessings to you, to Mrs Tramp (hmmm, that sounds like trouble . . . ), and the rest of your family!