SIL exegetical summaries offer

nicky crane
nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

Logos Newswire has an excellent offer for SIL exegetical summaries,  Check it out, if interested.

Naturally no preview pages on Logos website...  Am checking previews on Amazon.

Does anyone use these?  I'd welcome comments from someone who does.  They look as if they might be useful to me, but I'd like to hear from someone who's used them...

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  • Mike S.
    Mike S. Member Posts: 477 ✭✭

    I would very much like to hear about these commentaries as well... if you already have the UBS Handbook volumes, how would this series add to it? More technical? When looking at things passage by passage, is there some other value they bring to the table?

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    First, as so far no-one has linked it: we are talking about http://www.logos.com/product/4294/exegetical-summaries-series . The series is incomplete, btw.

    Second: I very much like the point that you can buy them as single resources as well - thus one may buy them one-at-a time (but the newsletter offer seems to be really good)

    Third: I don't know the series, but it seems these are meta-commentaries, i.e. compiled from existing commentary entries

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Third: I don't know the series, but it seems these are meta-commentaries, i.e. compiled from existing commentary entries

    That's a fair observation. These commentaries ask the question, what do commentators say about a passage. They tell you conclusions, not rationale.

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    If you look at this screen cap you'll see lexical/translation variation observed and then exegetical questions posed with the answers that various commentators give.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    These commentaries ask the question, what do commentators say about a passage. They tell you conclusions, not rationale.

    Yes. I looked onto the preview pages of SIL E.S. James http://www.amazon.com/Exegetical-Summary-James-Second/dp/1556711956/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313683333&sr=8-2#reader_1556711956 - very interesting.

    One question, just to confirm: the thousands of links really go to the specific location in the respective lexicons/commentary (i.e. in your screenshot to where the commenator explains Eph. 1:6 and comes to the conclusion refererred to by SIL E.S.) ?

    Mick

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    Mike S. said:

    if you already have the UBS Handbook volumes, how would this series add to it? More technical?

    I can't compare to UBS, but from what Logos and Amazon tell, it seems to be Yet Another Commentary, whereas this series is something different. I advise looking at the screenshot posted here or at the Look-Into pages in Amazon. Maybe the backcover gives even more hints (curiously not reflected in the Logos description)

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  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    What attracts me is that it summarises the various conclusions scholars have reached, and in which commentaries, so you can then go direct to the commentary concerned if you want more detail.  And it seems to go more thoroughly into the text, word by word, phrase by phrase than even the UBS, which is normally the first commentary I consult.

    I note that the set is not complete, but it works out just over $10 a volume with the Newswire offer.  They look like about $40 a volume in Amazon...

    As I story the Bible, it's particularly important for me to know what I think the text means before paraphrasing it not only into a foreign language, but also into terms that make sense to my neighbours.  UBS is invauable here, e.g. for principles of translation.  But sometimes even their commentaries leave me not understanding what the text means.  e.g. What did Jesus mean when he said to Zacchaeus:  Salvation has come to this house today.  I think the SIL summaries would summarise the different theories and in which commentaries they can be found.

    Yes, just having upgraded to Platinum, mainly for extra commentaries, I fear I'm about to splurge again.  Fortunately my bank account can stand it!

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    One question, just to confirm: the thousands of links really go to the specific location in the respective lexicons/commentary (i.e. in your screenshot to where the commenator explains Eph. 1:6 and comes to the conclusion refererred to by SIL E.S.) ?

    Links in SIL are a mixed bag. Many of them do point to the right Logos resources. Others only bring up bibliographical popups. The links that are active the Bible Commentaries take you the right verse, not the particular paragraph that makes the point in question.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    Kevin,

    Links in SIL are a mixed bag. Many of them do point to the right Logos resources. Others only bring up bibliographical popups. The links that are active the Bible Commentaries take you the right verse, not the particular paragraph that makes the point in question.

    too bad. However, I think from the bible commentary sets SIL regularly refers to, I own only a smaller part anyway...

    I understand from Amazon that some missing volumes (1 Timothy and the second half of Romans) are now available in paper, as well as the 2nd edition of Rev 12-22 - which gives rise to the hope that one day they'll appear in Logos. 

    Do you utilize this often? To verify your own "hand-made" exegesis as supported by those commentaries you trust or do you rather look at the questions SIL poses and answer them yourself?

    I'm unclear whether I should buy this or not. It's a really good discount - but then...

    Thanks for your help so far!

    Mick

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Do you utilize this often? To verify your own "hand-made" exegesis as supported by those commentaries you trust or do you rather look at the questions SIL poses and answer them yourself?

    I value the SIL mostly for identifying exegetical disagreement that may or may not be discussed by the commentators I do read in more depth.

    If it's a quick study I ignore the SIL summaries, but if it's detailed exegesis I make certain to consult with them. Personally, I would recommend buying them if you already have a stable of commentaries (in my case Platinum plus WBC) if you're thin on commentaries you might have a hard time determining the strength of various positions with just the SIL volume.

    Personally? I'm glad I have them.

  • Is Mebin
    Is Mebin Member Posts: 453

    I would recommend buying them if you already have a stable of commentaries (in my case Platinum plus WBC) if you're thin on commentaries you might have a hard time determining the strength of various positions with just the SIL volume.

    Hey Kevin...I am similar to you...I have Platinum, but with Hermeneia and NICOT/NICNT (not WBC).  Do you think I would gain suitable benefits from SIL?  It would be handy to quickly reference the differing scholarly opinions, but not much good if you can't follow through and consult them first hand.

    Just wondering, how much were these on pre-pub?  Is the current deal a good deal I suppose is what I'm after.

    Thanks.

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Is Mebin said:

    Hey Kevin...I am similar to you...I have Platinum, but with Hermeneia and NICOT/NICNT (not WBC).  Do you think I would gain suitable benefits from SIL?  It would be handy to quickly reference the differing scholarly opinions, but not much good if you can't follow through and consult them first hand.

    Just wondering, how much were these on pre-pub?  Is the current deal a good deal I suppose is what I'm after.

    I did buy these off of PrePub and the Newswire price is the same as the prepub price was. So, this is probably as good a deal as you will ever see on these.

    Here's proof [:)] http://web.archive.org/web/20080626063414/http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/4293

    Will you find these helpful? I think so but can't guarantee it. I did notice that the Hebrews volume didn't utilize the Hermeneia volume... probably because those commentaries are not specifically exegetical.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    I did notice that the Hebrews volume didn't utilize the Hermeneia volume... probably because those commentaries are not specifically exegetical.

    From looking into some of those in Amazon, I thought that Hermeneia was among their list of commentaries regularly considered (remember seeing Hermeneia works from Dibelius and Bultmann), but maybe they always go to the best, and it is "coincidence" that AY, NIC, Tyndale, Lenski, are referrered to... 

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    From looking into some of those in Amazon, I thought that Hermeneia was among their list of commentaries regularly considered (remember seeing Hermeneia works from Dibelius and Bultmann), but maybe they always go to the best, and it is "coincidence" that AY, NIC, Tyndale, Lenski, are referrered to... 

    I don't know, I was just surprised that Attridge wasn't mentioned in the SIL Hebrews volume. His work on Hebrews is very highly regarded.

  • Randy O'Brien
    Randy O'Brien Member Posts: 54 ✭✭

    I would affirm their value - especially if you own many commentaries. On the other hand, even if you don't own many of the cited commentaries, it is very helpful to see what they would say if you had it. In that sense it could be very useful on its own.

     I use the SIL as a sort of "cliff notes" to the various viewpoints and positions. It is an easy way to spot interpretive issues and link to the sources. Like Kevin, I use them more for in-depth study rather than the casual work.

    I own portfolio plus NIC, WBC, and some others I picked up on Christmas sales, etc. I use them in pastoral work as well as academic research. I think of them more as a commentary tool than a commentary set. Hope this helps to have another viewpoint.

  • Is Mebin
    Is Mebin Member Posts: 453

    the Newswire price is the same as the prepub price was

    Thanks Kevin...I appreciate you telling me that.  I'm pretty convinced now that these would be a good acquisition.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295

    I note that the set is not complete, but it works out just over $10 a volume with the Newswire offer.

    If I recall correctly, the current NewsWire sale price is the same as the Pre-Pub price. I got some of them in the Christmas special I wanted to get the rest but the individual prices made it quite expensive. This deal is very good. Time to rummage the coins out of the sofas.

    Note to Self:  Read the entire thread from latest post to earliest post BEFORE responding. [:$] Thanks Kevin Becker, for always being there and for giving us the proof.

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    Links in SIL are a mixed bag. Many of them do point to the right Logos resources. Others only bring up bibliographical popups. The links that are active the Bible Commentaries take you the right verse, not the particular paragraph that makes the point in question.

    Kevin, 

    thanks again for sharing. I couldn't resist & took the offer and now can see even more clearly what you meant.

    From looking into some (not all) of them it seems:

     

    • some resources work fine (such as WBC, NAC, Lenski). Fine means, clicking on the reference will open the resource and lead you to the right verse/. section. This also holds true of a number of bible translations cited, including NIV84
    • some resources are really not linked (such as BNTC, TNTC) 
    • some resources are linked in an obscure or outdated "instance" such as the Greek New Testament (Logos claim they don't even sell this version anymore) or BST, which seems to link an UK resource set, while I have the US version of it

     

    Anyway, since it is always possible to manually open and link resources with no, "wrong" or "outdated" tagging to the SIL commentary via Link Sets ("A", "B"), those will scroll along with the SIL commentary - works even in the two "monograph"-tagged OT resources on Joel and Malachi.

    Seems to be a good buy, after all. I understand from the NewsWire that the offer is valid only through August (they referred to it with a yellow box in the SIL series product page last week, but took this down in the meantime).

    Mick

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  • Is Mebin
    Is Mebin Member Posts: 453

    I just took the plunge...will download later though [H]

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    NewbieMick, Is Mebin hope you enjoy and find these books helpful!

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    I can't compare to UBS, but from what Logos and Amazon tell, it seems to be Yet Another Commentary, whereas this series is something different.

    UBS is for me anything but "yet another commentary",being my first commentary of choice, but this SIL summary, for those parts of the Bible it covers, goes into much more detail that you can explore if you want, both linguistic and exegetical, and brings up and suggests answers to relevant questions about the text.  I hope they'll extend it to cover more of the Bible.  For me UBS was money well spent and SIL is likewise money well spent. Main disadvantage for me is that it only covers a comparatively small part of the Bible.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    Main disadvantage for me is that it only covers a comparatively small part of the Bible.

    Well, actually I saw it as an NT resource (plus 2 OT prophets as goodies). SIL covers NT letters incl. Revelation quite well (the Logos edition misses Romans from chapter 9 onwards and 1 Tim, both are out in print since 2009), the gospels/acts section is dealt with by Luke plus Sermon on the Mound. I'd like to see the missing epistels in Logos and SIL producing John.

    Mick 

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  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    Main disadvantage for me is that it only covers a comparatively small part of the Bible.

    Well, actually I saw it as an NT resource (plus 2 OT prophets as goodies). SIL covers NT letters incl. Revelation quite well (the Logos edition misses Romans from chapter 9 onwards and 1 Tim, both are out in print since 2009), the gospels/acts section is dealt with by Luke plus Sermon on the Mound. I'd like to see the missing epistels in Logos and SIL producing John.

    Mick 

    Doesn't cover all the Gospels, only Luke and Sermon on Mount..  But I have found it very useful in what it does cover.  Money well spent.  I would happily spend more to get more resources in the series.

     

  • NB.Mick
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    Doesn't cover all the Gospels, only Luke and Sermon on Mount..  

    yes, that's what I meant with

    the gospels/acts section is dealt with by Luke plus Sermon on the Mound.

     

             [:$] for the typo. Sorry if this wasn't clear. One could also say: Matthew is incomplete, Mark and John as well as Acts are missing - from these, I'd most eagerly await John, so I wrote

    I'd like to see ... SIL producing John.

    I think I'll at least put up a suggestion thread (if there is none already) regading the SIL works out in print but not in Logos.

    Mick

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  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    I think I'll at least put up a suggestion thread (if there is none already) regading the SIL works out in print but not in Logos.

     

    [Y] [Y] [Y] 

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    I think I'll at least put up a suggestion thread (if there is none already) regading the SIL works out in print but not in Logos.

     

    Yes Yes Yes 

    Done, http://community.logos.com/forums/t/37403.aspx

     

     

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,973

    For your info:

    I just updated the resource page http://wiki.logos.com/Resource$3a_SIL_Summary_Series by linking it to this thread. I put some of the comments from Kevin, Nicky and Randy into the page to aid others in getting an idea about this set.

    Mick

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for this helpful thread. I'm considering purchasing these volumes. Would someone mind posting another screenshot, perhaps of 1 Cor 14? I'm interested in whether the summaries are purely lexical/syntactical/grammatical, or whether there is any theological summarising going on.

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  • Ted Hans
    Ted Hans MVP Posts: 3,171

    Thanks for this helpful thread. I'm considering purchasing these volumes. Would someone mind posting another screenshot, perhaps of 1 Cor 14? I'm interested in whether the summaries are purely lexical/syntactical/grammatical, or whether there is any theological summarising going on.

    Here you go.


    14:1 Pursuea love,
        LEXICON—a. pres. act. impera. of διώκω (LN 15.158, 68.66) (BAGD 4.b. p. 201): ‘to pursue’ [BAGD, LN (15.158), Lns, NIGTC, NTC; ISV, NET, NRSV], ‘to aim at’ [Herm], ‘to pursue as one’s aim’ [HNTC], ‘to strive for’ [AB, BAGD, LN (68.66); TEV], ‘to seek eagerly after’ [NAB], ‘to follow after’ [KJV], ‘to follow the way of’ [NIV], ‘to make (something one’s) aim’ [NJB, REB], ‘to make (something one’s) chief aim’ [TNT], ‘to seek after, to aspire to’ [BAGD]. This clause is translated ‘love should be your guide’ [CEV], ‘let love be your highest goal’ [NLT]. The present imperative indicates a continuative action [NIC2]: keep on pursuing love. Paul means by this command that love is to be the proper context in which the gifts are to function [NIC2]. By this command he means that love is to be the motivation for the spiritual gifts [MNTC].
     QUESTION—What is the function of this verse?
      It resumes Paul’s argument from 12:31 [NIC2, NTC]: Set your hearts on the greater gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way, it is to pursue love.… It summarizes the two previous chapters and refers back to 12:31 [ICC]. In 12:31 Paul spoke of setting one’s heart on the greater gifts. Here Paul specifies which gifts he had in mind [NIC2].

    DISCOURSE UNIT: 14:1b–33a [AB]. The topic is the superiority of prophecy over speaking in tongues.

    DISCOURSE UNIT: 14:1b–5 [AB]. The topic is prophecy, tongues, and building up.

    but/anda set-your-hearts-onb spiritual-gifts.c
        LEXICON—a. δέ (See this word at 11:2): ‘but’ [HNTC, NIGTC], ‘but also’ [NLT], ‘but … too’ [NJB], ‘yet’ [Lns; TNT], ‘and’ [ISV, KJV, NET, NIV, NRSV], ‘then’ [REB], not explicit [AB, Herm, ICC, NTC; CEV, NAB, TEV].
        b.      pres. act. impera. of ζηλόω (LN 25.46): ‘to set (one’s) heart on’ [NAB, TEV], ‘to strive for’ [Herm, HNTC; NRSV, TNT], ‘to strive eagerly for’ [NTC], ‘to strive zealously for’ [Lns], ‘to strive to make one’s own’ [ICC], ‘to desire’ [ISV, KJV, NLT], ‘to be zealous for’ [AB], ‘to be eager for’ [NIGTC; NET, NJB, REB], ‘to be eager to have’ [CEV], ‘to desire eagerly’ [NIV], ‘to have a deep concern for, to be devoted to’ [LN (25.46)]. The present imperative indicates a continuative aspect [NTC]: keep on setting your heart on. See this word also at 12:31.
        c.      πνευματικός (See this word at 12:1 and 10:3): ‘spiritual gift’ [AB, Herm, HNTC, Lns, NTC; all versions except CEV, NLT, REB], ‘gift of the Spirit’ [ICC, NIGTC; REB], ‘a gift that comes from the Holy Spirit’ [CEV], ‘a special ability the Spirit gives’ [NLT]. Πνευματικός probably refers to here to ‘utterances inspired by the Spirit’. In 12:31 Paul used the term χαρίσματα ‘spiritual gifts’. Here in chapter 14 there will be emphasis on the Spirit’s activity in worship so he uses the word πνευματικός indicating ‘the things of the Spirit’ [NIC2]. With this term there may be more emphasis on ‘spiritual’ than on ‘gifts’ [NTC].
     QUESTION—What relationship is indicated by δέ ‘but/and’?
        1.      It indicates a contrastive relationship [Alf, Ed, HNTC, Ho, Lns, My, NIGTC, TH; NET, NJB, NLT]: pursue love, but set your heart on spiritual gifts. Paul had said, “Pursue love.” He means pursue love, but it does not replace the gifts. Rather, they should be desired as well [Ed]. They should pursue love, but at the same time they should desire spiritual gifts [Ho].
        2.      It indicates a conjoining relationship [ISV, KJV, NET, NIV, NRSV]: pursue love, and set your heart on spiritual gifts.

    but rathera thatb you-may-prophesy.c
        LEXICON—a. μᾶλλον (LN 78.28) (BAGD 3.d. p. 489): ‘rather’ [BAGD, Lns; KJV], ‘especially’ [AB, Herm, HNTC, ICC, NTC; all versions except NAB, REB], ‘above all’ [NAB, REB], ‘more’ [Alf, BAGD, LN], ‘chiefly’ [Alf], ‘most particularly’ [NIGTC], ‘even more, to a greater degree’ [LN]. Μᾶλλον here it carries the meaning of ‘instead’ [BAGD]. It indicates that Paul will specify what he especially chooses for them to desire among the spiritual gifts [NIC2]. See this word also at 12:22.
        b.      ἵνα (LN 89.59, 90.22) (BAGD II.1.a.α. p. 377): ‘that’ [AB, BAGD, Herm, HNTC, LN (90.22), Lns, NIGTC, NTC; KJV, NET, NRSV], ‘to’ [ICC], ‘in order that, so that, for the purpose that’ [LN (89.59)], not explicit [all other versions].
        c.      pres. act. subj. of προφητεύω (See this word at 11:4): ‘to prophesy’ [AB, HNTC, Lns, NIGTC, NTC; KJV, NET, NRSV], ‘to be inspired to preach’ [ICC]. This verb is also translated as a participle or noun phrase: ‘prophesying’ [Herm; NJB], ‘prophecy’ [REB], ‘the gift of prophecy’ [CEV, NAB, NIV, NLT], ‘the ability to prophesy’ [ISV], ‘the gift of proclaiming God’s message’ [TEV], ‘the gift of speaking God’s message’ [TNT]. The present imperative indicates a continuative aspect [NTC, Rb]: that you may continue to prophesy. Προφητεύω does not mean preaching a carefully prepared sermon but expressing a message directly inspired by God [NTC, TNTC]. Prophecy includes preaching and teaching [NIGTC].
     QUESTION—What relationship is indicated by ἵνα ‘that/in order that’?
        1.      It indicates what they are to desire [Ed, ICC, Lns, NIC, NIC2, NIGTC, NTC]: earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but rather desire that you may prophesy. The ἵνα ‘that’ depends on ζηλοῦτε ‘earnestly desire’ [Ed, NIC]. The ἵνα explains more specifically what Paul meant by desiring spiritual gifts [NIC2]: earnestly desire spiritual gifts, that is, that you may prophesy.
        2.      It indicates purpose [Alf, EGT, Gdt, My]: earnestly desire spiritual gifts in order that you may prophesy.
     QUESTION—What is the significance of the plural form of the verb προφητεύητε ‘you (plural) may prophesy’?
      It indicates that the desire of the whole church should be that the gift of prophecy be used in their meetings, not that each individual should desire to personally have the gift of prophecy [Lns, MNTC]. They may all eagerly desire the gift of prophesy, but, being a gift, only those to whom it is given will be able to prophesy [ICC, NTC]. ‘Pursue love’ is directed to the entire congregation while ‘set your hearts’ is directed to those who have spiritual gifts [NIC]. Each one should want to pursue love, to have spiritual gifts, and especially to prophesy [HNTC].

    14:2 For the-(one) speaking in-(a)-tonguea speaks not to-menb but to-God;
        LEXICON—a. γλῶσσα (LN 33.3): ‘tongue’ [AB, Herm, HNTC, ICC, LN, Lns, NIGTC, NTC; all versions except CEV, KJV, TEV], ‘languages that others don’t know’ [CEV], ‘unknown tongue’ [KJV], ‘strange tongue’ [TEV]. See this word at 12:10.
        b.      ἄνθρωπος (See this word at 13:1): ‘man’ [Herm, HNTC, ICC, Lns; KJV, NAB, NIV, TNT], ‘human being’ [NIGTC], ‘people’ [AB; ISV, NET, NLT], ‘other people’ [NJB, NRSV], ‘others’ [TEV], ‘someone else’ [CEV], ‘men and women’ [NTC; REB].
     QUESTION—What relationship is indicated by γάρ ‘for’?
      It indicates the grounds for the advice to desire prophesy [EGT, My, NIC]: desire that you may prophesy since no one understands what is said when you speak in a tongue.
     QUESTION—What does ὁ λαλῶν γλώσσῃ οὐκ ἀνθρώποις λαλεῖ ἀλλὰ θεῷ ‘he who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God’ mean?
        1.      When this refers to a human foreign language.
              It means that he speaks in a foreign language that is unknown to the people present but is known to God [Ho, Lns].
        2.      When this refers to a non-human heavenly language.
              It means that he speaks to God in this heavenly language that only God can understand [HNTC]. This language is given by the Holy Spirit and is not addressed to men [NIC]. Paul understands this term to mean a language of prayer and praise to God [NIC2]. It is private worship of God [NTC]. This language was used to commune with God and was partly addressed to God, partly to oneself [ICC]. What is spoken is between the speaker and God and is not understood by others [Gdt].
        3.      When this refers to a pseudo speaking in tongues.
              A better translation for θεῷ ‘to God’ is ‘to a god’ since there is no article. The carnal Christians in Corinth were not exercising the true gift of tongues, but a kind of tongues (ecstatic utterances) that was a left-over from their pagan past. Their concern was for excitement and self-gratification rather than building up others. The singular use of γλῶσσα refers to the counterfeited gift of tongues both here and in 14:4. The true gift of speaking in human languages is referred to by the plural form (14:5, 6, 18, 22, 23, 39) and one instance in the singular (14:27) where a single man speaks in a genuine language [MNTC].

    for no-one understandsa (him), but he-speaks mysteriesb in-(the)-Spirit/ spirit;c
        LEXICON—a. ἀκούω (LN 32.1) (BAGD 7. p. 32): ‘to understand’ [BAGD, Herm, LN, Lns, NIGTC, NTC; all versions except CEV], ‘to be able to understand’ [HNTC, ICC], ‘to know what (one) means’ [CEV], ‘to comprehend’ [LN], ‘to hear’ [AB, BAGD]. Ἀκούω here means ‘to hear and understand’ [NIC2].
        b.      μυστήριον (See this word at 13:2): ‘mystery’ [AB, Herm, HNTC, Lns, NIGTC, NTC; CEV, KJV, NAB, NET, NIV, NRSV], ‘divine mystery’ [REB], ‘secret’ [ISV, TNT], ‘mystic secrets’ [ICC], ‘secret truth’ [TEV]. This noun is also translated as a clause: ‘and the meaning is hidden’ [NJB], ‘it will all be mysterious’ [NLT].
        c.      πνεῦμα (LN 12.18, 26.9) (BAGD 6.e. p. 677): ‘Spirit’ [BAGD, Herm, HNTC, LN (12.18), NIGTC, NTC; CEV, ISV, NAB, NET, NJB, NRSV, REB], ‘the power of the Spirit’ [NLT, TEV], ‘Spirit of God, Holy Spirit’ [LN (12.18)], ‘spirit’ [AB, LN (26.9), Lns; KJV, NIV], ‘inner being’ [LN (26.9)]. The word πνεύματι ‘in spirit’ is translated ‘by inspiration’ [TNT], ‘one who is in a state of rapture’ [ICC].
     QUESTION—What does οὐδεὶς ἀκούει ‘no one understands him’ mean?
        1.      When γλῶσσα refers to a human foreign language.
              He does not mean that no one could understand the language, but only that no one present could understand it [Ho, Lns]. ‘No one’ here means ‘no one who does not have the gift of interpretation’, that is, no one who is not conversant with that particular foreign language [Lns].
        2.      When γλῶσσα refers to a non-human heavenly language.
              It means that such a language is not understandable either to speaker or hearer [NIC2].
        3.      When γλῶσσα refers to a pseudo speaking in tongues.
              The utterance is unintelligible gibberish [MNTC].
     QUESTION—What relationship is indicated by δέ ‘but’?
        1.      It indicates a contrastive relationship [Ed, EGT, Gdt, Lns, NTC; CEV, KJV, NLT]: no one understands him, but in the Spirit he speaks mysteries. The contrast indicates that even though no one understands him yet he does speak things that are of value [EGT].
        2.      It indicates a reason relationship [ICC; ISV, NAB, NRSV, REB]: no one understands him, because in the Spirit he speaks mysteries.
     QUESTION—What is meant by πνεύματι λαλεῖ μυστήρια ‘he speaks mysteries in the Spirit/spirit’?
        1.      It refers to the Holy Spirit who speaks mysteries [BAGD, HNTC, Ho, NCBC, NIC2, NIGTC, NTC, TG, TH; NAB, NRSV, TEV].
         1.1      When this refers to human foreign languages.
               The Holy Spirit guides the person to speak mysteries or divine truth. Though spoken through a foreign language which is not understood, still the language has meaning [Ho].
         1.2      When this refers to non-human heavenly languages.
               This indicates communing with God in a heavenly language by the enabling of the Holy Spirit. Since the speaker is addressing only God, Paul thinks of these mysteries as prayer and praise [NIC2]. God enables people to speak unintelligible mysteries by the Holy Spirit (see 2:6–16 and 1 Peter 1:10–12) [NTC]. The speech may be called mysteries simply because it is unintelligible [TG].
        2.      It refers to the person’s own spirit which speaks mysteries [Alf, Ed, EGT, Gdt, Lns, MNTC, My, NIC, TNTC, Vn; KJV, NIV, NJB].
         2.1      When this refers to human foreign languages.
               The Holy Spirit inspires a person’s spirit and gives him/her words to speak which he/she may or may not understand. This happens without conscious thought on the part of the speaker [Lns].
         2.2      When this refers to non-human heavenly languages.
               The Holy Spirit works directly with a person’s spirit enabling him/her to speak without understanding. What he/she speaks is not understood and so is mysterious [NIC]. It refers to a state of rapture in which the person speaks mysteries [ICC]. The speaker’s spirit is lifted up in ecstasy [Gdt].
         2.3      When this refers to a pseudo speaking in tongues.
               The Corinthians were speaking mysteries, as people did in pagan religions in which the mysteries were secret truths that only the initiated were allowed to know. This was done in (locative sense) the person’s own spirit [MNTC].

    14:3 Buta the-(one) prophesyingb speaks upbuildingc and encouragementd and comforte to men.
        LEXICON—a. δέ (See this word at 11:2): ‘but’ [AB, HNTC, Lns, NTC; CEV, ISV, NET, NIV, NLT, TEV, TNT], ‘on the other hand’ [KJV, NAB, NJB, NRSV, REB], ‘however’ [Herm, NIGTC], ‘it is otherwise with’ [ICC].
        b.      pres. act. participle of προφητεύω (See this word at 11:4): ‘to prophesy’ [AB, HNTC, Lns, NIGTC, NTC; all versions except NAB, TEV, TNT], ‘to speak God’s message’ [TNT], ‘to proclaim God’s message’ [TEV], ‘to be inspired to preach’ [ICC]. This participle is translated as a noun: ‘prophet’ [NAB]. It is implied that he prophesies to people in their own language so they could easily understand [Lns].
        c.      οἰκοδομή (LN 74.15) (BAGD 1.b.α. p. 559): ‘upbuilding’ [BAGD; ISV, NAB, NRSV], ‘edification’ [BAGD, Herm, HNTC, Lns; KJV], ‘strengthening’ [NET, NIV], ‘words which build up’ [TNT], ‘words that edify’ [BAGD], ‘words of hope to quicken’ [ICC], ‘constructive message’ [AB]. This noun is also translated as a verb: ‘to build’ [REB], ‘to build up’ [LN, NIGTC; NJB], ‘to strengthen, to make more able’ [LN], ‘to give help’ [TEV], ‘to help (someone) grow in the Lord’ [NLT], ‘to be helped’ [CEV]. Οἰκοδομή indicates the process of increasing the potential of someone [LN]. It is used here to refer to the building up of a person’s spiritual life [ICC, NIC]. It refers to making a person’s faith and spiritual life strong [Lns]. It refers to growth both in a person’s individual life as well as in the body of the church [NIC2]. See the verbal form of this word at 10:23 and 14:4.
        d.      παράκλησις (LN 25.150) (BAGD 1. p. 618): ‘encouragement’ [BAGD, LN; ISV, NAB, NET, NIV, NRSV], ‘exhortation’ [BAGD, Herm, HNTC; KJV], ‘admonition’ [Lns], ‘words which encourage’ [TNT], ‘words of exhortation’ [BAGD], ‘words of love to hearten’ [ICC], ‘encouraging message’ [AB]. This noun is also translated as a verb: ‘to encourage’ [NIGTC; NLT], ‘to give encouragement’ [NJB, TEV], ‘to be encouraged’ [CEV], ‘to stimulate’ [REB].
        e.      παραμυθία (LN 25.154) (BAGD p. 620): ‘comfort’ [BAGD, HNTC; ISV, KJV, NIV], ‘consolation’ [BAGD, LN, Lns; NAB, NET, NRSV], ‘encouragement’ [BAGD, Herm, LN], ‘words which comfort’ [TNT], ‘words of love to console’ [ICC], ‘consoling message’ [AB]. This noun is also translated as a verb: ‘to console’ [LN], ‘to comfort’ [NLT], ‘to give comfort’ [TEV], ‘to bring comfort’ [NIGTC], ‘to encourage’ [REB], ‘to give reassurance’ [NJB], ‘to be made to feel better’ [CEV].
     QUESTION—Are these three separate terms here?
        1.      The three terms are separate terms [EGT, Gdt, ICC, Lns, MNTC, NIGTC]: upbuilding, encouragement, and comfort.
        2. The first term is a general term and the next two are specifics of it [Alf, Herm, Ho, My]: upbuilding, that is, encouragement and comfort. The person prophesying builds people up either by encouraging or comforting them [Ho].
     QUESTION—What is the difference between παράκλησις ‘encouragement’ and παραμυθία ‘comfort’?
      The two words are nearly synonymous in meaning [Herm, NIC]. Παράκλησις has the meaning of ‘encouragement’ or ‘exhortation’ while παραμυθία has the sense of ‘comfort’ or ‘consolation’ [ICC]. Παράκλησις means to help and support the church while παραμυθία means to promote a good spirit in the Christian assembly [TH]. Since παραμυθία has the meaning of ‘comfort’ here, it is best to give the meaning of ‘exhortation’ to παράκλησις [Ho, NIC]. Παράκλησις refers to ‘admonition’ of any kind while παραμυθία refers to enabling a Christian to face persecution and hardship and to hold out cheerfully to the end [Lns]. Παράκλησις refers to persuasion and urging a course of action while παραμυθία refers to sympathy [Ed].


    Trail, R. (2008). An Exegetical Summary of 1 Corinthians 10-16 (2nd ed.) (191–197). Dallas, TX: SIL International.

     

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  • Mark Barnes
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    Thanks, Ted. I think now I'll be purchasing this set with my Christmas credit.

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  • HansK
    HansK Member Posts: 570 ✭✭

    Good choice Mark. These summaries are extremely helpful for a good start in exegesis.

    I use these regularly after reading the Bible text alone.

    What I like is the compactness of the summaries (that's why they are called that) and that you can browse further in your library because many of the commentaries mentioned are actually in Logos!

    BTW Thank you for your videos. When will you post a new one?

    Hans

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