NIV 84 and NIV 11

Jerry Fourroux said:

Is there anyway to purchase this? 

NIV 84 version   http://www.logos.com/product/8786/new-international-version

Jerry - In addition to the link that Ted gave you (Thanks Ted - I couldn't find it!) I thought I would fill in a little more info. First, (just to let you know), the NIV84 was pulled from base packages per Zondervan's request:

Phil Gons said:

At Zondervan’s request, we’ve replaced the TNIV and NIV (1984) with the new 2011 NIV. The license is included, and the file is just about finished. It will automatically download as soon as it’s ready.

If you purchase the NIV84, you should be aware that the Reverse Interlinear will not be included, (once again, per Z's request). As far as the NIV2011 RI, we have not been given any time table. Sorry!

Jerry - Copyright laws vary from country to country, but a good rule of thumb is that if you have to break copy protection measures set in place, it would be illegal. 

Jerry Fourroux said:

If I already have an e-copy of a book can I make that a personal book in Logos? I mean is that legit?

It depends on the applicable jurisdiction (which may be the place where you live - or else) and in some cases maybe on whether you use this book for private or for business purposes. This is a complex area since copyright laws differ widely and whether something as "fair use" or a right to a "personal copy" or a "backup" is applicable to you. It also depends on the licence arrangement under which you use this other e-copy (and there may be the tricky fact that some clauses of a licence contract or EULA may be invalid for you, your jurisdiction or at all, which may invalidate these clauses, or all of the small print of the contract...). Moreover, in some cases, there are regulations that are interpreted diffently in courts than they read at first sight - and some companies put up very restrictive rules to allow them to go after real copycat businesses, but never intend to sue single users. Others do. 

It seems to me that at least if you start sharing the PB or *.docx PB source of a copyrighted book, you are on the wrong side of the line.

On the other hand: creating a PB can be very time consuming, especially if the desired result is the full functionality. You may want to consider this as well in your decision, if $26 is worth it. 

BTW, I have written to Zondervan asking them to reconsider their policy with Logos about the NIV84 rev int. I suggest others do the same.

Jerry - With all of your purchases, it looks like you helped them to purchase Thomas Nelson.

Doc B - You should never lose a resource. If you had it, you should still have it. If you don't, contact Logos.

William Bingham said:

This is what I thought......We will get Interlinear for 84 version when available.....just taking a long time

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but to clarify:

1. The NIV84 no longer comes with base packages but must be purchased separately
2. The NIV84 does have a reverse interlinear for the New Testament, but only for those who owned it and were entitled to the RI prior to 2011.
3. The NIV84 does NOT have a RI for the OT, but will be made available when completed ONLY for those who owned it and were entitled prior to 2011.
4. The NIV84 Reverse Interlinears do NOT come with the purchase of the NIV84 module today.
5. The NIV84 RI's will not ever be made available to new users unless the publisher/copyright holders grant permission.
6. The NIV2011 is slated to get reverse interlinears for both NT & OT for those who own at least the minimal crossgrade. A time table has not been released.

William - If you owned at least a minimal crossgrade with the NIV84 prior to the NIV2011 transition, you should have the NIV NT reverse interlinear NOW (if you don't, contact Logos), and when the OT reverse interlinear is completed, you will receive it. However, if you did not own these resources before this transition, you should not expect to ever receive it.