I've been waiting for some one to comment on this. I'm not too good at figuring "deals" so don't know if this is a "great deal" or just a slick way of selling.
I do not understand what you mean, can you explain some more?
I received an "exclusive" email from Logos saying that I could have the full cost of my present package applied toward an upgrade, plus the 15% off, and also Logos credit for the purchase.
Thanks Shawn for the explanation.
Shawn - "exclusive" means you are not supposed to share it elsewhere. If you are thinking about upgrading, it is a VERY good deal.
Well, the reason I put "exclusive" in parentheses is because usually exclusive ISN"T exclusive.
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Yes ... I get those 'exclusive' offers all the time, usually from car dealers. I'm always very careful to place these valuable offers carefully in the trash, and not tell anyone else.
I certainly wouldn't want to violate the moral and maybe even scriptural prohibitions concerning 'secrets'. The good apostle Paul spoke of this in depth (along with whoever wrote the Damascus Document).
But I always like people who intro their special information with 'please don't tell anyone else but ... ' which almost always means it's not on the up and up.
Sounds like a no-brainer, if you've got the bucks.
It is a good thing I am not in charge of targeted marketing at Logos. I 'd create a "blue list" of persons who should never be bothered with "exclusive" offers. Then I would add a few names from this thread to that list. [:|]
That "exclusive" offer is indeed "exclusive." My wife has been excluded from the offering. Could be because she has never "dissed" Logos in their own forums.
I still think there has got to be a connection between my respect for the Logos company and the great deals I get. I am just amazed how generous Logos is with others.
Given that the everyday upgrade price of a package is the full cost of one's present package deducted from the full cost of the desired upgrade, and that the Christmas credit program is available to anyone who signs up, I think that the "exclusive" deal the e-mail offered you was simply 15% off the price of an upgrade when at the moment, only base packages are 15% off. That's a good deal (the same good deal that Logos allowed to expire within the last two months), but its packaging is more desirable than its details.
Bill
I've been a Logos user for over 10 years now and have never been sent a 'special' offer. Guess I don't run in the right circles! Or maybe I said something that put me in the bad books! [8-|]
I've been a Logos user for over 10 years now and have never been sent a 'special' offer. Guess I don't run in the right circles! Or maybe I said something that put me in the bad books!
Check your notification settings. Maybe some things are deselected. On the other hand, it seems they sometimes pick a certain group for "special offers" (e.g. US customers that have Scholars Gold and invested XXX$ in the last YYY months with Logos) - I don't seem to get these either. Or only once or so.
I wonder if one called a Logos sales rep and hinted that one was vaguely aware of some offer that's been offered exclusively to certain Logos users, one might be able to persuade the sales rep to give one that same deal if one talked nicely and didn't bash Logos to this poor employee who probably had nothing to do with that decision.
Trust me Shawn, ........ it is both. [:D]
That is to say, It is a great deal if you want the upgrade. (But do go ahead and feel special. You have attracted their attention by name.)
I think there is one HUGE question to ask before jumping on this deal if true... That is for some who have had Logos for a while, we have resources no longer available in current packages. In the "trade-in" do you lose those "retired" resources on the new package deal? Since technically you would be trading away your current package....
In the "trade-in" do you lose those "retired" resources on the new package deal? Since technically you would be trading away your current package....
I can't imagine that you do. The real purpose of the promotion (in my opinion) is to not penalize, but to reward those who have made upgrades in the past. Unfortunately for me, I am about as high as I am going to go. [:(]
That is a very good point. Depending on what package you currently have, you could lose some Baker titles, or Barclay's Daily Study Bible, or the NIV 1984..... I would ask if it is a trade-up that grandfathered all my previous contents or a relinquishing of the license to those works.
Good catch Frank.
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to insinuate it as a penalty, but as a potential oversight for customers and possibly Logos. Not that Logos isn't sharp and on the ball with these things, but depending on the legalities, if a license is considered replaced in this promotion, Logos may not be able to allow access to some of the "retired" resources. If this is just a fancy upgrade promotion with no actual surrender of current license than my comment is answered, but if it is a "selling, trade-in or surrendering" of a current license to be replaced by the new base package license, it could have unintended circumstances... Probably just over analyzing it...
In the "trade-in" do you lose those "retired" resources on the new package deal? Since technically you would be trading away your current package.... I can't imagine that you do. The real purpose of the promotion (in my opinion) is to not penalize, but to reward those who have made upgrades in the past. Unfortunately for me, I am about as high as I am going to go.
I can't imagine that you do. The real purpose of the promotion (in my opinion) is to not penalize, but to reward those who have made upgrades in the past. Unfortunately for me, I am about as high as I am going to go.
Well unfortunately I can't afford the upgrade I want now. BTW, all I have now is the Bible Study Library. I would like the Silver Scholars but priorities with spending rule right now.
It is a good thing I am not in charge of targeted marketing at Logos. I 'd create a "blue list" of persons who should never be bothered with "exclusive" offers.
I can understand how you feel. However, if I were in charge of targeted marketing, I would never let my personal feeling towards what someone said keep me from making a profit by selling them my product.
There is a reason that the customer is always right, even if he is wrong. It is called profit. After all the customer is the hand that feeds you.
Of course, in the church that sort of thing happens all the time. People are unreasonable and complain about petty things. You just have to love us regardless. God said to.
In the "trade-in" do you lose those "retired" resources on the new package deal?
I believe Logos has made it a policy that you never lose resources. In over 18 years of using Logos, I have never lost a resource that I am aware of. I have a number of products no longer available.
That is why you will be hired in the Marketing Department before they offer me a job. [:)]
The only time I lost resources was due to selling my Scholar's Silver to another person and buying Scholar's Gold. My upgrades through Logos have never cost me any resources. I only wish I had bought a lot of the other CD titles directly from Logos. (Hermeneia, AYB Dictionary, etc.)
This is a great offer to base package owners, and if I had the money I would seriously consider it. However, there are so many other Logos resources that I need more than what is in Portfolio.
For example, I would rather have all the Martyn Lloyd-Jones available, the N. T. Wright Collection, Anchor Yale Bible, and much, much more that is not in the next package for me. Furthermore, there is much in all the packages that would not be a high priority for me.
So there is a lot to consider. It is truly a great deal - especially with the offer of Logos Credits on top of it.
The Logos Credits is an amazing offer in itself, and I have bought resources to take advantage of it that I would not have bought otherwise. Thanks for this sale, Logos!
In the words of that great theologian, Flip Wilson, "Get behind me devil - AND PUSH!"
[:D]
The price gap between Platinum and Portfolio is too wide. This deal is not good enough for me to pull the trigger. Plus, Portfolio really doesn't have the resources I want (beyond what Platinum offers). Maybe if it included the NIV Application Commentaries and the Theological Journal Libraries I would reconsider.
The price gap between Platinum and Portfolio is too wide.
That's my problem too.
The deal I want is 'trade in your UNUSED Logos resources for credit toward other ones.' I don't suppose I'll be getting a targeted mailing on that anytime soon. [:'(]
I guess those who are portfolio owners are left out of the deal?
The price gap between Platinum and Portfolio is too wide. That's my problem too.
Wow, what a coincidence, that's my big problem too. I own all of College Press NIV commentaries and other Portfolio resources, but even with that, I don't know if it would be enough to bring the monthly payments down enough for me to be able to afford the upgrade. Plus, they need to explain the "trade in" part. I wouldn't want to lose my Baker titles, they'd have to pay me big bucks to give those up...LOL...hey, business is business!
DAL
Wow, what a coincidence, that's my big problem too. I own all of College Press NIV commentaries and other Portfolio resources, but even with that, I don't know if it would be enough to bring the monthly payments down enough for me to be able to afford the upgrade. Plus, they need to explain the "trade in" part. I wouldn't want to lose my Baker titles, they'd have to pay me big bucks to give those up...LOL...hey, business is business! DAL
I'm so happy I upgraded to Platinum when the Baker content was still in the package. In fact, that content played a big role in me upgrading from Silver. I LOVE the BECNT! Bock did a great job handling the Gospel of Luke. Without the Baker content, Platinum looks a little weak.
Joshua wrote: I'm so happy I upgraded to Platinum when the Baker content was still in the package. In fact, that content played a big role in me upgrading from Silver. I LOVE the BECNT! Bock did a great job handling the Gospel of Luke. Without the Baker content, Platinum looks a little weak.
Yep I strongly agree! Platinum looks very week! I'm just surprised/disappointed that Logos never worked anything out to replace those commentaries with at least some other simple commentaries (e.g. Tyndale, Application, Focus on the Bible, etc.). Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait for Logos 5 to come out.
PS. I, too, am glad for upgrading while Platinum had the Baker titles. I also think Darrel Bock did an outstanding job handling the gospel of Luke. The whole BECNT series is great! Hopefully I'll recover in time to place my prepub for the new upgrade.
I think I receive pretty much everything in terms of notifications. I got Portolio and spend enough regularly that they probably think they are doing well enough with me that they don't need to give me a special deal.
I have never lost my rights to books by upgrading, but you could if you sold your package and then upgraded.
The question of this being a good deal or not is easy. If they give you full credit for books you already have bought it is a great deal! Example if 3 months ago I buy a package which cost 1500 dollars, I do not get the current credit on the package, but if I upgrade now to a package that costs 4000 dollars I pay an additional 2500 dollars but get credit for 4000 dollars. If I only get credit for only the 2500 dollars then there is no super deal any one can get that!
Are you sure this is right? If this is true then I can see a scenario where Logos actually pay you to upgrade, because the credit received would be greater than the incremental cost, which I do find a little hard to believe [:D]
I presume I am not breaking the forum rules in posting this (the post implies that the offer is open to all base package owners), but I wonder if this is what the OP was referring to :
I found this on my home page this morning. As it is on the home page, I presume it is a generic advert rolled out to all L4 users. There is no hyperlink and so I guess I would have to call customer services in order to get an exact price.
Coincidentally, I emailed Santiago Galeano yesterday for a quote on upgrading to Portfolio. Last Christmas I purchased the Master Collection (which contains a large number of resources exclusive to Portfolio). The upgrade calculator does not appear to have taken the Master Collection into account (the before and after price are pretty much the same, over $2000, ouch!). I have asked Santiago to double check whether the personalised quote on the website is correct. I await his response.
Obviously, if I have contravened the forum rules in posting the screenshot, let me know and I will pull it.
Notice I said if in my comments, I never got the offer, I am going by what the person said the offer was!!! I do not know this is the offer, but if it is it will be a great deal for those it is offered to, I hope they can take Logos up on the deal.
Blair, What would you suggest Logos do for us?
I could say I feel your pain but I re-directed my lament to the resources I do not have and I believe the Logos Credit promo will suffice.
I am hoping for a super-duper 12 Days of Logos offer.
Screen shot looks fine; coupon code is not displayed. Wonder if need to call Logos ?
I have asked Santiago to double check whether the personalised quote on the website is correct. I await his response.
Likewise curious.
Keep Smiling [:)]
Screen shot looks fine; coupon code is not displayed.
The content of the post appeared innocuous enough, but I am very grateful for the confirmation (I would not want to transgress the forum guidelines). Thank you.
Wonder if need to call Logos ?
I read in this thread that some users have received emails with further explanation of the deal. Mr Newsome (half-way down the page) suggests that the deal is 'phone only'.
Prior to purchasing the Master Collection, the personalised quote to upgrade to Portfolio was around $2,600, post-purchase the quote does not seem to have come down at all. Given that the Master Collection contained a chunk of the stuff I consider attractive in the Portfolio collection (e.g. the Collection contained the majority of the College Press, JPS, ITC commentaries, Dr MLJ's books on Acts, etc.), I would have expected this to be reflected in the post-Master Collection personalised quotation. I wonder, therefore, whether the upgrade calculator has taken into account the Master Collection.
The quotation would have to come down massively before I consider upgrading.
I will let you know should I receive a response from Santiago.
Thank you, once again, for your response.
I would have expected this to be reflected in the post-Master Collection personalised quotation. I wonder, therefore, whether the upgrade calculator has taken into account the Master Collection.
I think I'm right in saying the special collections like this very rarely are taken into consideration in the automatic calculator. It's just too complicated. On the other hand, if you have a resource that is wholly contained within Portfolio, then that will be taken into consideration. It's certainly worth asking for a manual calculation, although I wouldn't hold your hopes out for a significant discount.
When I type in my email address to see what bonus is available, I get the following:
You were not subscribed to any lists.
You are already a member of the 'christmas' mailing list.
What does this mean?
When I type in my email address to see what bonus is available, I get the following: You were not subscribed to any lists. You are already a member of the 'christmas' mailing list. What does this mean?
You are already a member of the 'christmas' mailing list. What does this mean?
It makes more sense if you reverse the order of the two sentences:
You are already a member of the 'Christmas' mailing list. Therefore,
You were not subscribed to any new lists.
This means you are as subscribed as you can get. [:D] You are sitting pretty.
Surprise, surprise... I received an alert on this deal so I called in to see what the deal was. The chap was nice, but this deal was exactly the same deal that the upgrade calculator gives me online. When I asked about 'trade in', from what I understood is that this is no different than the regular upgrade based on what you already own. I'm not exactly sure how this is exclusive, beyond the fact that it is based on what you already own.
That's what I suspected.
