Mormon Studies Collection
http://www.logos.com/product/16021/mormon-studies-collection
On community pricing.
Oh my word!
How cool is this, where else but Logos could you get such a marvelous resource without any risk that a penny will go to the LDS.
This is really exiting.
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Let's pick a low price and all go in together at that price point, so we can keep this from getting out of hand. Right now the projected price is right at the higher end of the spectrum, but it's early in the game so a few low bids could change that.
I bid $25. I could go up to $30 but I don't think more than that. What saith the hivemind?
Let's pick a low price and all go in together at that price point, so we can keep this from getting out of hand. Right now the projected price is right at the higher end of the spectrum, but it's early in the game so a few low bids could change that.
I bid $25. I could go up to $30 but I don't think more than that. What saith the hivemind?
The lower the better but if people always lowball it will never move into production, my personal view is that a realistic price is anywhere over $50. Just look at what you are getting here.
The lower the better but if people always lowball it will never move into production, my personal view is that a realistic price is anywhere over $50. Just look at what you are getting here.
Point taken but if you look at the spectrum they offer, this is one of the lower prices set to produce (which makes sense, if my assumption is correct that these works don't often directly reference Scripture or other Logos-offered books). Generally if something starts peaking around 1/3 of the way up the scale it will make it into production. Especially for something like this where it's all public domain, you're not going to get a lot of "sure, why not" bids at $50.
Point taken but if you look at the spectrum they offer, this is one of the lower prices set to produce (which makes sense, if my assumption is correct that these works don't often directly reference Scripture or other Logos-offered books).
I would think that these works will reference the book of Mormon extensively (which will itself form part of this collection) which presumbably will have to be referenced, hopefully we will find out soon. It will be rather fun wondering which book of Mormon to prioritize, I never thought I would be saying that.
Was hoping to see "Mormon Doctrine" by Bruce McConkie (sp), but it is probably still in copyright.
In at $30
http://www.logos.com/product/16021/mormon-studies-collection
On community pricing.
Oh my word!
How cool is this, where else but Logos could you get such a marvelous resource without any risk that a penny will go to the LDS.
This is really exiting.
I know!! The minute I saw the post flash on my newsreader, I rushed to the forums to post in excitement! I really want to see this get published soon, it would be an amazingly helpful resource for my almost daily conversations with LDS here. I am in at $30 (the current suggested price.) Let's see if we can't get this pushed through fast!
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Overview
At the turn of nineteenth-century came America's second Great
Awakening. Out of the ashes of this second awakening arose what would
eventually become one of America's largest and somewhat controversial
churches, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
"...and somewhat controversial..." [:|]
Only somewhat...? Overall description and book descriptions are too modest IMO and may cause some to think Logos is legitimizing Mormonism.
Overview
At the turn of nineteenth-century came America's second Great
Awakening. Out of the ashes of this second awakening arose what would
eventually become one of America's largest and somewhat controversial
churches, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."...and somewhat controversial..."
Only somewhat...? Overall description and book descriptions are too modest IMO and may cause some to think Logos is legitimizing Mormonism.
It does come with a disclaimer:
NOTE: Logos Bible Software does not endorse the teachings in the Mormon Studies Collection. TheMormon Studies Collection is another tool for research within your library—especially for apologetics and comparative studies. Logos strives to carry texts that will allow you to better study the Word of God.
@ $25
I'm in at $30.
I’m impressed that Logos would be willing to put up the Book of Mormon for sale. I hope that with this set of reference books that people will read the whole verse from the Book of Mormon, or sermon, from the Journal of Discourses, and not the little blurb that they might read from a book that is against the LDS church.
I hope that with this set of reference books that people will read the whole verse from the Book of Mormon, or sermon, from the Journal of Discourses, and not the little blurb that they might read from a book that is against the LDS church.
I have always found it helpful to go directly to the source material when trying to discover what is really said. Not all critics are informed or honest.. (This goes for any controversial discussions.)
I have owned the Journal of Discourses as well as D&C, Pearl of Great Price, and Book of Mormon in my digital library for a few years. It will be nice to have much of the material in my Logos library.
edit: I am in for $20 to start $30 and will raise it as necessary near closing.
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I’m impressed that Logos would be willing to put up the Book of Mormon for sale. I hope that with this set of reference books that people will read the whole verse from the Book of Mormon, or sermon, from the Journal of Discourses, and not the little blurb that they might read from a book that is against the LDS church.
Well, I hope they will read "The Pearl of Great Price" and the many other extreme teachings of Joseph Smith and B. Young which contain their teachings that are far outside orthodox Christian boundaries.
Not intended as an attack, but this is a chance to see for oneself what the Mormon faith teaches, and its most unusual teachings are not in the Book of Mormon.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
You are surprised? They offer the even more controversial Catholic collection.one of America's largest and somewhat controversial
churches, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."...and somewhat controversial..."
Only somewhat...? Overall description and book descriptions are too modest IMO and may cause some to think Logos is legitimizing Mormonism.
Has it occurred to you that there are Mormon users of Logos? Just saying - don't assume that it's only of use for apologetics. We don't want to make Mormons stay in the "closet".
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
I am just amazed that people feel the need to defend and refute on this site. I understand that the content of our software leads us to think about religion, to include, to exclude. But this site is not about that. Most of us don't go through our day, checking who is Catholic/Protestant/Pentecostal/Mormon/Atheist/Hindu as we accept hamburgers and fries, buy a bus ticket, open the door for a person, yield for a merging car on the interstate, etc. In many cases, we can be thankful, grateful, and show love to all of them. Let's try a little more of that on this website, without worrying about if being nice and civil will compromise our own values and truth and staking out our plot of land--it doesn't seem to in those other instances I mentioned. Peace.
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I am just amazed that people feel the need to defend and refute on this site. I understand that the content of our software leads us to think about religion, to include, to exclude. But this site is not about that. Most of us don't go through our day, checking who is Catholic/Protestant/Pentecostal/Mormon/Atheist/Hindu as we accept hamburgers and fries, buy a bus ticket, open the door for a person, yield for a merging car on the interstate, etc. In many cases, we can be thankful, grateful, and show love to all of them. Let's try a little more of that on this website, without worrying about if being nice and civil will compromise our own values and truth and staking out our plot of land--it doesn't seem to in those other instances I mentioned. Peace.
I am all for being nice to everyone and not seeking to cause offence when it can be avoided but the idea that you can discuss LDS resources neutraly is just plain wrong. When we are considering the value of a Mormon collection the view of a Mormon should (in my humble opinion) be of little weight to both Logos and the customer base for a whole host of reasons. Coversely the view of a Mormon on Hambergers and fries is as likely to be as valid as anyone here, but the two situations are not analogous.
but the idea that you can discuss LDS resources neutraly is just plain wrong
This is not my experience. I find that I have to read and listen neutrally in order to understand another position and make a judgment on it. Otherwise I act out of prejudice (pre-judgment) not knowledge. Prejudice is rarely effective communication.
About a week ago, I found a statement that was flagrantly, factually wrong - it claimed that there were no cases of X in the New Testament. The next book I looked in had a 14 page list of X's in the New Testament. Should I blame Logos for spreading false information? No, I simply recognize that author Y and perhaps publisher Z need to be double checked on their "facts".
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
but the idea that you can discuss LDS resources neutraly is just plain wrongThis is not my experience. I find that I have to read and listen neutrally in order to understand another position and make a judgment on it. Otherwise I act out of prejudice (pre-judgment) not knowledge. Prejudice is rarely effective communication.
I agree whole heartedly that you have to understand the other sides position and to do so you have to be scrupulously fair but fairness is very different to neutrality. Whether you agree with him or not Van Til does offer some fascinating insights into what I am seeking to express and I am certainly not advocating prejudice and in everything we should be civil.
If the book of Mormon is or indeed may be inspired then Christian revelation is false, in that way I cannot see neutrality when discussing the value of the document.
Saying that you will notice that I verge on being giddy with delight at the prospect of this package and if Mormoms get exposed to biblical truth through this publication all the better, if not I still think it is a good idea as knowledge is a noble end in itself within appropriate confines which depends on the attitude of the student, not the subject itself.
to do so you have to be scrupulously fair but fairness is very different to neutrality.
I think of it a little differently. When I read a novel, I suspend my disbelief - that is I get into the story as if it were real world while knowing I'm reading a book of fiction. I do something similar when reading theological books - I read it as if it were true. I observe places where the logic is bad or has holes in it from the perspective of the author. It i after I put the book down, that I evaluate it in terms of what I believe to be true. That's what I mean by neutrality.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
[Y]Has it occurred to you that there are Mormon users of Logos? Just saying - don't assume that it's only of use for apologetics.
25 here....
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