Journals: The poor cousin that few seem to care about any more!
WARNING: Rant
The bright star of Logos and other Bible programmes was that we could get Galaxie Theological Journals. Galaxie trail blazed the way bringing this incredible resource to our desktops. I remember some of the Logos Marketing spin quoting Mark Driscoll stating the virtues of journals over commentaries. It was and still is one of the most potent resources for my research.
Now a few years later after quoting Mark, it appears that journals are the poor cousin that gets little attention. Previously we got the lastest journals update about Christmas time. We are already half way through 2012 and we still haven't received last year's volumes. Themelios, which I was delighted that Logos picked up, hasn't done an update since last April. BAR hasn't been updated in years now.
Am I the only one left that cares about this resource? In the absence of information from Logos, I have to wonder. The Galaxie journals update went into 'production' with a delivery date then went back into contract and the explanation was that there was problems with the text or something. OK that was a couple of months ago, but there's not even a delivery date yet. We are getting to the point that the next volume could easily be included.
I mean really... how hard can tagging journals be? They aren't that complicated. Is the quest for delivering every other type of resource under the sun along with all the other initiatves killing off this incredible resource? I would really like to see this return to a reasonable production cycle. Are there others that feel the same, or has journals become the poor cousin that few seem to care about any more?
Sorry for the rant. I am sure that I will get told off for misunderstanding what is going on, but there has been precious little communicated on this that I can find.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
Am I the only one left that cares about this resource?
You are not. This has been discussed in at least one other thread, but Logos still has not shed any real light on the subject. Do not understand how Hampton with limited resources could accomplish what the entire Logos company cannot.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
It was and still is one of the most potent resources for my research.
Donovan R. Palmer said:there's not even a delivery date yet. We are getting to the point that the next volume could easily be included.
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In an email from Bob about a month ago, he said he thought Galaxie was handling this, not Logos.
Still, we are over halfway through the year and they are still not available. It makes me wonder, again, if Logos has their hands in too many things. I have my own rants, that I will not unleash on any of you right now, that I would like to see solved. A few years ago the customer service and communication at Logos was pristine. It seems today that it simply is not a priority anymore.
I canceled my prepub a few months back, with so many CP things coming out it doesn't make sense to allocate that money to what has so far been a standstill project.
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I agree. When Hampton was in charge it was clean, neat, & simple. You could depend on having the CD (I know CD's are a relic of the past) by Thanksgiving. Hampton always tried to have the material ready in time for the JETS and SBL conventions.
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I too always look forward to and enjoy the Galaxie Journals.
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Everett Headley said:
In an email from Bob about a month ago, he said he thought Galaxie was handling this, not Logos.
The Galaxie web site says "All Galaxie Logos products are now sold through the Logos online store. Please visit http://www.logos.com/galaxie to order." Also note that all tech support is now handled through them.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I mean really... how hard can tagging journals be? They aren't that complicated. Is the quest for delivering every other type of resource under the sun along with all the other initiatves killing off this incredible resource? I would really like to see this return to a reasonable production cycle. Are there others that feel the same, or has journals become the poor cousin that few seem to care about any more?
Sorry for the rant. I am sure that I will get told off for misunderstanding what is going on, but there has been precious little communicated on this that I can find.
When it got pulled out a few months ago a developer freely responded here that "We have found some significant problems in the text", which does not remotely even suggest it is a "tagging" problem.
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/49312.aspx?PageIndex=1
Be remininded these materials come from a wide variety of sources. With each passing year content customization to fit needs more specifically or support unique and useful features is less expensive and easier. So I am not surprised that standardizing such content from such a vast number of sources presents more difficulty than it did even just one two years ago. I work in the data warehousing industry, where it is the full time task of content incorporaters to do just what Logos has to do for these resourses. I know what I am talking aobut here. I am not just speculalting.
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BAR is not interested in creating a new DVD update. I've spoken with them. If they understood that it could just be electronic, that might be better, but it's unlikely to be updated. Alas.
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In speaking with Galaxie they say that they have nothing to do with its development or publication anymore. In response to that conversation I contacted Logos, who said Galaxie was responsible. After that conversation is when I contacted Bob. Still, the fact remains that the latest collection is past due and that the communication on when, if, why, etc has been slow.
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Randal M Lane said:
Be remininded these materials come from a wide variety of sources. With each passing year content customization to fit needs more specifically or support unique and useful features is less expensive and easier. So I am not surprised that standardizing such content from such a vast number of sources presents more difficulty than it did even just one two years ago. I work in the data warehousing industry, where it is the full time task of content incorporaters to do just what Logos has to do for these resourses.
Agreed. I am fully aware of the mechanics of what goes on in relation to managing this data. It is speculation though to say handling this text is beyond Logos' capability though. They are handling tens of thousands of pages of data now annually particularly with all the public domain stuff that is being cranked out and so in comparison, could this project be taxing their abilities? Regardless, Themelios which was updated last year hasn't even had a new update go on pre pub. It's really sad to see the growing absence of BAR, which was another gem to have in your library.
My point is, do people still want these resources? It seems from the silence that they are getting little attention. I also recall tons of marketing from Logos how this was one of their most popular add ons, a quote from Mark Driscoll, etc. If the user base doesn't speak up or there is some great plan that we don't know about, it is not inconceivable that they will just disappear. This would be a pity because they are good value on many levels.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
If the user base doesn't speak up
I want to continue to see the Journals in Logos....
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I too miss the journals and would like to see more attention given to them.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
My point is, do people still want these resources? It seems from the silence that they are getting little attention. I also recall tons of marketing from Logos how this was one of their most popular add ons, a quote from Mark Driscoll, etc. If the user base doesn't speak up or there is some great plan that we don't know about, it is not inconceivable that they will just disappear. This would be a pity because they are good value on many levels.
As a long-time Logos user for research and writing, the Journals would be my #1 resource! I'm waiting!
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Ok, you got me to speak up. I think the journals are the best value going. The scholarship, breadth and depth of articles and the usefulness to seminary students, like me, is incredible. I too am waiting patiently but really would like to see this product released.
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I have all of the previous journals and cancelled my pre-pub as well. By far the journals are the highlight of what I enjoy reading. Since I have recently acquired an iPad, I will not be purchasing any books through Logos which does not have access to a mobile device. I rarely use my computer now and the thought of having to go back to reading off of a laptop is not pleasant.
I also have the BAR journals which are mentioned in this thread. Again, it is to bad that these frequently used resources are going by the way-side.
Don
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I am a very dedicated collector of journals in Logos, and I share the disappointment at the lack of updates. More than that, I would really like to see the scope of journals expanded significantly. I would love to see these.
* The Bible Translator. Technical Papers (ISSN 0260-0935)
* Bulletin for Biblical Research (ISSN 1065-223X)
* Expository Times (ISSN 1745-5308; Internet edition)
* Journal for the Renewal of Religion and Theology (ISSN 1834-3627)
* Journal for the Study of the New Testament (ISSN 0142-064X)
* Journal for the Study of the Old Testament (ISSN 0309-0892)
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For those who use the theological journals I did put into a Word document that has the indexes and articles of each of the journals. This was done in the Spring and in case some haven't heard. Here is the link to the to zip files:
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/46253.aspx
Don
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Way cool. Thanks!
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here's another vote for the journals.
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The journals are the reason I have logos. It's value is unmatched by any other resource. When libronix was axed, Logos took over the journals. Everything changed when L4 came. Companies no longer could produce materials and sell it in the libronix format. Galaxie has not produced any journals since L4 came out. It is really a surprise to hear Bob suggest that the journals are the work of Galaxie. All resources are now in the control of logos, including the journals.
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My forum friends,
You all speak my language and share my passion for journals. I agree with what has been said here regarding the value of journals, and I also share your desire for these vital tools for research.
I want you to know that I am doing what I can to get the very best in Biblical scholarship for all of you. I read the forums daily (and try to answer as many questions that I can), and take note of all that you ask for. I want you to know that I do all that is within my power to make sure Logos is on the cutting edge of biblical scholarship.
Keep requesting and making suggestions, I am listening. [:)]
Cliff
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Clifford Kvidahl said:
My forum friends,
You all speak my language and share my passion for journals.
Thank you, Cliff
It does help to know we are being heard.
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Clifford Kvidahl said:
want you to know that I do all that is within my power to make sure Logos is on the cutting edge of biblical scholarship.
Is it within your power to tell us a little bit about what we can expect in regard to the release of the last volume of Galaxie Journals and also an update to Themelios? I appreciate BAR is more complicated. What about other journals? As much as I appreciate your response and I do believe Logos reads these forums, you haven't said anything in specific about anything. I appreciate there may be commercial issues at stake here, but something, even a hint of something possibly to come would be welcomed when it is within your or Logo's power to do so.
Sorry to be a persistent student, but a half of a year late on Galaxie, I feel its time for the Logos users who do care about journals to do some knocking at the door.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
Is it within your power to tell us a little bit about what we can expect in regard to the release of the last volume of Galaxie Journals and also an update to Themelios? I appreciate BAR is more complicated. What about other journals? As much as I appreciate your response and I do believe Logos reads these forums, you haven't said anything in specific about anything. I appreciate there may be commercial issues at stake here, but something, even a hint of something possibly to come would be welcomed when it is within your or Logo's power to do so.
Sorry to be a persistent student, but a half of a year late on Galaxie, I feel its time for the Logos users who do care about journals to do some knocking at the door.
Reluctantly I must say I totally agree with the sentiments expressed in your post. Previously we were informed that Logos was working on it, that a problem was discovered before it shipped last time. So I think you have been quite patient and reasonable about this. Hopefully Logos will be able to ship this Journal sooner rather than later. The long wait continues though![:)]
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I feel its time for the Logos users who do care about journals to do some knocking at the door.
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Clifford Kvidahl said:
Keep requesting and making suggestions, I am listening.
Glad to know that you are listening; however, your post has told us nothing. We have multiple posts in at least two threads, but no information as to when these journals may be coming—or even solid assurance that they will ever come.
We hear that Logos is producing them; then Bob says he thinks Galaxie is doing them. Does anybody there know what is actually happening?
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Jack Caviness said:Clifford Kvidahl said:
Keep requesting and making suggestions, I am listening.
Glad to know that you are listening; however, your post has told us nothing. We have multiple posts in at least two threads, but no information as to when these journals may be coming—or even solid assurance that they will ever come.
We hear that Logos is producing them; then Bob says he thinks Galaxie is doing them. Does anybody there know what is actually happening?
Jack,
All that I know is is that when received the files they were in pretty bad condition. We have a certain standard we expect for our resources and a standard our users do as well. In the condition we received them, it would have been irresponsible for us to release them. Now, I am not talking about a few pages in a few journals. The condition was bad throughout the whole collection, which caused us to have to in a sense start from scratch. This takes time, and unfortunately for you it means a significant delay, for which I apologize.
As for Themelios, I will check on that as well. My gut feeling is that we might wait for more volumes to be published before we can get an update. Or, it may be that because Themelios is published online, we may have to wait a certain number of years until we can get the rights. Either way I will see if I can get a more definitive answer.
I hope this helps. I can only give so much information, and I am sorry that sometimes is seems that I am being vague.
Cliff
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Clifford Kvidahl said:
The condition was bad throughout the whole collection, which caused us to have to in a sense start from scratch. This takes time, and unfortunately for you it means a significant delay, for which I apologize.
Sorry to press the issue, but I believe Logos and students would benefit from some clarity on this. How significant delay is significant? Months? Years? What changed from previous years and could this be avoided? Why could Galaxie as a small entity could handle this on their own in previous years and Logos can't? Has there been a significant change in this data? Please help us understand beyond generalities if you are able to given your commercial constraints. At least from where I stand, we were better off at least in terms of end users when Galaxie had sole control of this project.
I don't know anything about publishing, but on the Themelios website it says:
'Themelios is published three times a year exclusively online at The Gospel Coalition. It is presented in two formats:PDF (for downloading and citing pagination) and HTML (for greater accessibility, usability, and infiltration in search engines). Themelios is copyrighted by The Gospel Coalition. Readers are free to use it and circulate it in digital form without further permission (any print use requires further written permission), but they must acknowledge the source and, of course, not change the content.'
Does this imply that Logos should be able to distribute Themelios in digital format and tag it as long as they acknowledge the source, or do you need further permission? Is Themelios even on the radar for Logos? Students really benefit from journals being updated regularly. This was one of the most commendable things that Galaxie did.. they cranked on their journals almost like clockwork. Yet under the management of Logos with it's huge engine of resources, things seem to have become worse. After being months late, it leaves us to question whether or not journals are really valued any more. (Hence this thread)
What about BAR? Any chance we could see this relationship between Logos and BAR renewed?
I'm not just being persistent because I want to question motives or the hard work of Logos. I am being persistent because I genuinely believe students all over the world will benefit from these resources being accessible in Bible software formats. Sorry if this seems personal. It isn't. I'm pushing for whatever clarity you or Logos can give on this matter as I think our studies in general will benefit. If this is all the information you have, it is concerning and does make me wonder if anyone really knows what is going on. Thanks for hearing me/us out. I hope you read this in the spirit of grace and humility that I intend it. I genuinely hope we can see a better day for journals.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:Clifford Kvidahl said:
The condition was bad throughout the whole collection, which caused us to have to in a sense start from scratch. This takes time, and unfortunately for you it means a significant delay, for which I apologize.
Sorry to press the issue, but I believe Logos and students would benefit from some clarity on this. How significant delay is significant? Months? Years? What changed from previous years and could this be avoided? Why could Galaxie as a small entity could handle this on their own in previous years and Logos can't? Has there been a significant change in this data? Please help us understand beyond generalities if you are able to given your commercial constraints. At least from where I stand, we were better off at least in terms of end users when Galaxie had sole control of this project.
I don't know anything about publishing, but on the Themelios website it says:
'Themelios is published three times a year exclusively online at The Gospel Coalition. It is presented in two formats:PDF (for downloading and citing pagination) and HTML (for greater accessibility, usability, and infiltration in search engines). Themelios is copyrighted by The Gospel Coalition. Readers are free to use it and circulate it in digital form without further permission (any print use requires further written permission), but they must acknowledge the source and, of course, not change the content.'
Does this imply that Logos should be able to distribute Themelios in digital format and tag it as long as they acknowledge the source, or do you need further permission? Is Themelios even on the radar for Logos? Students really benefit from journals being updated regularly. This was one of the most commendable things that Galaxie did.. they cranked on their journals almost like clockwork. Yet under the management of Logos with it's huge engine of resources, things seem to have become worse. After being months late, it leaves us to question whether or not journals are really valued any more. (Hence this thread)
What about BAR? Any chance we could see this relationship between Logos and BAR renewed?
I'm not just being persistent because I want to question motives or the hard work of Logos. I am being persistent because I genuinely believe students all over the world will benefit from these resources being accessible in Bible software formats. Sorry if this seems personal. It isn't. I'm pushing for whatever clarity you or Logos can give on this matter as I think our studies in general will benefit. If this is all the information you have, it is concerning and does make me wonder if anyone really knows what is going on. Thanks for hearing me/us out. I hope you read this in the spirit of grace and humility that I intend it. I genuinely hope we can see a better day for journals.
Donovan,
Unfortunately, a lot of these questions I just cannot answer. Not because I do not want to, but rather because I do not have the answer. The process of getting resources up on Logos goes through many steps and many different departments. I am only a small part of the whole thing, so I do not know the specifics of say contractual restrictions (i.e. how long must Logos wait before they can offer say Themelios?). Because I was a student who relied heavily on journals, I know how important they are for research. But even schools face this problem as well. For example, say you are home doing a paper and you need the latest issue of a journal that has the best article for your paper. You go online to search for it, only to find that the library is a year or more behind in what they currently carry for online access. This is not the libraries doing, but the publisher's restriction on how soon a library must wait for online access. This is frustrating, I know! It has happened to me more than I like. I am not saying this is the case with Themelios; I am only offering a possible solution based on the very limited knowledge I have when it comes to contracts. I will indeed ask about Themelios and other journals, but that is all that I have the power to do.
I hope this better helps you understand my position. We all care here at Logos about what our users want. But sometimes there are situations that are out of our control, and when this is the case we go as far as we can to get the very best for you all. Sometimes we can, other times we cannot.
Cliff
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I understand commercial, contractual and other reasons make these things very complicated. My hope was that someone on behalf of Logos who had the overall picture could comment on the future of journals in Logos. Someone in management surely has this sort of overview? I can't believe Logos is a big machine that just operates with parts that no one trouble shoots or has an overview to insure that it achieves what it needs to get done to achieve its objectives.
I'll stop knocking for now. I appreciate you have given all the information that you have. If you obtain more, it would be nice to hear it. While I don't doubt your intention, some of the frustration in this and at least two other threads is that there has been very little communicated on this type of product which leaves us as users to speculate what their exact state is in the big Logos machine.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I can't believe Logos is a big machine that just operates with parts that no one trouble shoots or has an overview to insure that it achieves what it needs to get done to achieve its objectives.
This type of situation can only be resolved with input from Bob Pritchett. Does anyone at Logos know what is going on? Is the company now going it so many directions that important projects have been lost in the process?
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Clifford Kvidahl said:
All that I know is is that when received the files they were in pretty bad condition. We have a certain standard we expect for our resources and a standard our users do as well. In the condition we received them, it would have been irresponsible for us to release them. Now, I am not talking about a few pages in a few journals. The condition was bad throughout the whole collection, which caused us to have to in a sense start from scratch. This takes time, and unfortunately for you it means a significant delay, for which I apologize.
Clifford,
Reading your comment above (I am sure it is not with ill intention), it gives readers like myself a very bad impression that Galaxie has given you the source materials in a "pretty bad condition", which may or may not be fair to Galaxie.
So, curious about what you mean by "pretty bad condition" vs all the journals that Galaxie has produced over the years that many of us come to appreciate. If the source material is similar to what they have been producing in the past, I think your above comment appears a little too hush to pass the bug totally to Galaxie.
There are things that has changed, including moving from L3 to L4, as well as the process of Logos becoming the sole digital content publisher (for good reason) that could have resulted in the current situation.
Suggestion:
I appreciate you are planning to do a total revamp of Galaxie's Collection of Journals, ... I am sure Logos would have some preliminary assessment on the time line, whether it is in weeks, months or years, vs. the impression I read here as ... no idea.
a) If that is going to take a long time, like another year or two, or if decision is not even made; can you consider to produce the latest journal in the same format as previous journals from Galaxie. So that all of us can have access to the latest journals on pre-pub, those people who have Libronix can still use the topic browser to search for articles in the journals for the mean time, until the grand revamp for journal is finalized.
b) If the revamp is going to be done in the next few weeks or months, I suppose it make sense to wait it out.
Thanks for opportunity to share a piece of my mind and sorry if I have over simplified the issue :-)
JK
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LimJK said:Clifford Kvidahl said:
All that I know is is that when received the files they were in pretty bad condition. We have a certain standard we expect for our resources and a standard our users do as well. In the condition we received them, it would have been irresponsible for us to release them. Now, I am not talking about a few pages in a few journals. The condition was bad throughout the whole collection, which caused us to have to in a sense start from scratch. This takes time, and unfortunately for you it means a significant delay, for which I apologize.
Clifford,
Reading your comment above (I am sure it is not with ill intention), it gives readers like myself a very bad impression that Galaxie has given you the source materials in a "pretty bad condition", which may or may not be fair to Galaxie.
Where does Clifford say they came form Galaxie?
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Randal M Lane said:
Where does Clifford say they came form Galaxie?
We all know that source of TJL Vol 1 to 14 comes from Galaxie, do some googling :-)
http://www.galaxie.com/bible-study-resources
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Let me add my voice to the crowd wanting more attention given to journals. Something I'd love to see is ATLA listings in the MyPassageGuide, similar to the sermons section. Even better would be a browser capability in Logos so that if I clicked on one of the ATLA links or a sermon link, instead of switching to my desktop browser it would open the page up directly inside Logos.
Maybe in L6...
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I'm not sure what part of the responsibility of the journals being behind belong Logos. Here is an email correspondence I had with Biblical Archaeology Review a year ago.
I did follow up at the beginning of this year - but never received a response. I will call this week and post the reply.
From: Anne <anne@bib-arch.org>
To: "mdolfan@sbcglobal.net" <mdolfan@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wed,
July 13, 2011 3:19:46 PM
Subject: RE: Biblical Archaeology Review on CD
Dear Mr. Quick,
Unfortunately, although we would like to
update the Archives for a CD-Rom, we are at a point where the
economic conditions prevent us from
following through on this project at this time.
We have had to focus on the online Library
and we also have the digital editions of BAR from 2011 that have taken
priority for this year.
We are hoping that conditions improve for
2012 and that we can find an alternative for the Archive CDs updates.
If you can give me a call after the start
of the New Year, I might have some updates on this project.
Regards,
Anne Barasso
Biblical Archaeology Society
anne@bib-arch.org
1.800.221.4644 x 202
From: Info
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011
2:14 PM
To: Anne
Subject: FW: Biblical Archaeology
Review on CDFrom: Ron Quick
[mailto: mdolfan@sbcglobal.net ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011
1:10 PM
To: Info
Subject: Biblical Archaeology
Review on CDAre there any plans to
update the BAR Archive CD? The archive ends in 2005 and I am frequently
not in a place where I would have Internet to access the BAS Library. Therefore,
if possible I would really like to see the archive updated.
Thanks,
Ron Quick
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LimJK said:
We all know that source of TJL Vol 1 to 14 comes from Galaxie, do some googling :-)
To me, the Galaxie Journals is kind of like your favourite airline being bought out. They just aren't the same now. I'm hoping that something good comes of this thread because I am sure there are good explanations.
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I agree. There are things that I do not understand in this process. I have all the TJL. Galaxie, when they had control, never seemed to have these issues. The only explanation that I can think of is that the formating and processing for Logos 4 must be different from Libronix; hence new issues and problems. Perhaps it was easier and quicker under Libronix. Anyway, I'd hate to see this series dropped.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:LimJK said:
We all know that source of TJL Vol 1 to 14 comes from Galaxie, do some googling :-)
To me, the Galaxie Journals is kind of like your favourite airline being bought out. They just aren't the same now. I'm hoping that something good comes of this thread because I am sure there are good explanations.
Donovan,
I wanted to let you know that the TJL 14 is set to ship on 7/27.
Cliff
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Thanks for the update. [:)] I still have many unanswered questions about Logo's position on journals, but I'm looking forward to this coming out!
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Rev Chris said:
Let me add my voice to the crowd wanting more attention given to journals. Something I'd love to see is ATLA listings in the MyPassageGuide, similar to the sermons section. Even better would be a browser capability in Logos so that if I clicked on one of the ATLA links or a sermon link, instead of switching to my desktop browser it would open the page up directly inside Logos.
Maybe in L6...
I'm sure I'm alone on wanting ATLA Serial listings in Logos, since nobody else has said they'd support this feature. But in case someone else out there is interested and is wondering how Logos might begin to accomplish such a task, I believe this should work:
1) Logos would need browser capabilities inside the program.
2) A search can be done on Ebscohost for ATLA serials from any website, provided the user clicking on the link has an Ebscohost login (many seminaries offer this to alums free of charge). The search url is: http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a6h&[SEARCH PARAMETERS HERE]&site=ehost-live
I don't know how other people's Ebsochost is set up, but with my seminary there is a search field for "Scripture" that uses the code "SR". So, if I wanted to search for, say, all ATLA journal articles that reference Ruth chapter 2, I could run the following search:
If I wanted to search for all articles that reference Ruth chapters 2-4, I could expand the search to:
This uses the "OR" search parameter since Ebscohost doesn't seem to allow a range of scriptures to be searched. It could be narrowed down to a series of single verses to be more precise, but that could become cumbersome. Of course, if my seminary has a special setup with that "SR" scripture code for some reason, than the thing breaks down. If anyone has success or failure using these links, let me know.
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Donald G. Fisher said:
I have all of the previous journals and cancelled my pre-pub as well. By far the journals are the highlight of what I enjoy reading. Since I have recently acquired an iPad, I will not be purchasing any books through Logos which does not have access to a mobile device. I rarely use my computer now and the thought of having to go back to reading off of a laptop is not pleasant.
I also have the BAR journals which are mentioned in this thread. Again, it is to bad that these frequently used resources are going by the way-side.
Don
I also have an aversion to reading from a laptop if the content is available from either my iPad or my Android tablets. Among other things, it is a lot easier on my neck and shoulders at the end of the day.
How do you tell whether a particular product is available on mobile devices prior to purchase? And, specifically, is the TJL available for mobile use?
Thanks,
David
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Donovan,
Shoot me an email at cliff.kvidahl@logos[dot]com. I would like to hear more about what your concerns are with Logos and journals.
Cliff
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I also have an aversion to reading from a laptop if the content is available from either my iPad or my Android tablets. Among other things, it is a lot easier on my neck and shoulders at the end of the day.
How do you tell whether a particular product is available on mobile devices prior to purchase? And, specifically, is the TJL available for mobile use?
Thanks,
David
David,
When you look at any resource there will be images on which devices can be used with it. Just under the image of the resource it says: "Works on" and it will list what it will be usable on. It my case there is a icon of an iphone. There are also icons of Windows/Mac. Hope that helps.
Blessings,
Don
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Dominick,
I am grateful to you for this information and your explanation because I am a longtime purchaser of Galaxie products (journals) although I have not been visiting their site for a long time. Logos has so much going that it is obvious that it will not receive the attention that Galaxie gave their product which was a main draw for Galaxie.
Yours in Him,
Ergatees
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Delayed again. Only one business day though - Monday 07/30/2012. I can live with that.
Thanks again Logos. I know this is no easy task, and I appreciate you putting quality first. The last thing I want is to have Logos resources get released in substandard form just to make a release date.
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I don't know anything about Journals, someone care to share information on them? What they are exactly? What their usefulness is? Etc?
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