4.6 Beta 1 (4.60.0.2634) shipping soon
4.6 Beta 1 (4.60.0.2634) will ship later this evening or early tomorrow.
To update to Beta 1 when it ships, use the Update Now command if you’ve switched to the beta channel before, or the Set Update Channel to Beta command if you’re on a stable version (such as 4.5c SR-3). To install Beta 1 from scratch, see the notes and download link on this thread.
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I guess this is not the next major beta release that tech support said we would be seeing the start of Sermon File of some form being added....
BUT.... ooooh we get something that will work for faithlife.com, can we please deliver the promised features to customers...
So much for what the customers desire and for user voice. Also please don't paste links to Bob's or any other Logos reps comments on Sermon File recently, we have various posts for over two years now with failed promises or excuses of some form for not delivering on promised features.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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On the bright side, we are getting Word Lists :-)
But I do understand you your frustration.
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I would say the writing is pretty clearly etched on the wall not to expect anything significant for desktop versions of Logos other than necessary bug fixes and updates needed to support mobile and Faithlife; maybe Proclaim too, who knows.....
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Dominick Sela said:
I would say the writing is pretty clearly etched on the wall not to expect anything significant for desktop versions of Logos other than necessary bug fixes and updates needed to support mobile and Faithlife; maybe Proclaim too, who knows.....
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Frank Sauer said:
I guess this is not the next major beta release that tech support said we would be seeing the start of Sermon File of some form being added....
BUT.... ooooh we get something that will work for faithlife.com, can we please deliver the promised features to customers...
So much for what the customers desire and for user voice. Also please don't paste links to Bob's or any other Logos reps comments on Sermon File recently, we have various posts for over two years now with failed promises or excuses of some form for not delivering on promised features.
Well said, Frank.
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A couple of questions on these release notes:
1) After this release is final, will there be any remaining resource types that will *not* have been ported to sync v2? If so, what are they?
2) When and where will the "word list" feature be documented? I never used it in v3, so I'm curious what capabilities it brings to the table.
Thanks,
Donnie
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Does anyone know how the "Drill used spaced repetition" option work? Can we drill ourselves in the current beta?
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Also, imported Hebrew text is unpointed.
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Correction: the Hebrew text is unpointed when importing the lemmas via the NASB. They are pointed when importing directly from BHS (except for verb roots).
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Fredc said:Dominick Sela said:
I would say the writing is pretty clearly etched on the wall not to expect anything significant for desktop versions of Logos other than necessary bug fixes and updates needed to support mobile and Faithlife; maybe Proclaim too, who knows.....
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Dominick Sela said:
I would say the writing is pretty clearly etched on the wall not to expect anything significant for desktop versions of Logos other than necessary bug fixes and updates needed to support mobile and Faithlife; maybe Proclaim too, who knows.....
If this is true, says a lot about the integrity of Logos as a business. Considering for at least two years we've been strung along with promises of features, but hey we have Proclaim and faith life.... My biggest issue is for those who were misled by customer service and or technical support about promised features...
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Donnie Hale said:
After this release is final, will there be any remaining resource types that will *not* have been ported to sync v2? If so, what are they?
I am pretty sure Perosnal Books don't sync yet with the mobile devices. Not sure what else, maybe Logos can let us know what the list of data types looks like.
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NOTE: I made a reply to Frank that wasn't the right response, and after talking with him by phone I've deleted that post (and, it appears, the replies to it -- sorry if your post got caught in that).
I hear the frustration about Sermon File, and we're working on it. I'm also clearing up confusion with the rep who incorrectly promised it in a specific release.
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A very good conversation with Bob, that was a very unexpected but appreciated call.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Restoring my original quesiton to Bob, as he did not address this --
Bob, how about something beyond what we have now in Personal Books, which sure seemed to be a release 1? We have to build personal books on each machine we use. We can't easily share them without sending source around, the "store" or whatever never came to be. The Personal Books pane is becoming totally unmanageable, many of us have 150 or more Personal Books; it's one of the remaining things that does not sync or even show up on the mobile devices that have been out for quite a while; you can't easily find what has or has not been compiled on one machine vs. another if you made a small change, there isn't any filtering, there are reported bugs that have not yet been addressed, there are quite a few requests for enhancements to the tagging in Personal books on these forums, ....the list goes on and on. Personal Books is functional, but it is a very unrefined implementation at this point.
Personal Books first release has been out almost a year. Is there anything we can look forward to, to improve the user experience? I don't think it was anyone's expectations, including Logos, that development would mostly stop once that release (4.3) came out.
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Dominick Sela said:
Personal Books first release has been out almost a year. Is there anything we can look forward to, to improve the user experience? I don't think it was anyone's expectations, including Logos, that development would mostly stop once that release (4.3) came out.
It's on our list, but we have other priorities in front of it. Syncing built personal books means syncing user-created files (books) of arbitrary length. Our sync framework (and storage) was designed around content created inside our system. With PB, you can theoretically drop hundreds of megabytes of content into the system. This requires new infrastructure work to know when to upload a book (not every time you compile it, but often enough to catch important changes), and to make sure we have appropriate storage and management on the server side.
This is a solvable problem, but it's non-trivial, and we are putting some other things in front of it. We do plan to get back to it, though. I just can't say when yet.
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Fair enough Bob. I for one am thankful for Logos and my Bible study is incredibly enhanced by your team's work. Thank you!
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