Bug:"Display" & "Interlinear" Settings of multiple copies of RVI (in same or multiple layout) not pr
Hi,
I am really going nuts with multiple copies of the same Reversed Interlinear English Bible within the same Layout or across multiple Layouts on my system.
I wanted the options to display more or less information for each copy of the RVI resource:
- some cases I want RVI to display only the English surface text, without Interlinear Pane (due to space constraints)
- some other cases I want more or less information from the interlinear Pane (space or relevance considerations)
- In yet other cases I want the inline Display with more or less information (space or relevance considerations)
I just want my Layout to come out the way I constructed and saved ... I hope I am making sense. Out of desperation I spent one morning to attempt to orderly recreate the problem, so that Logos can consider if this is a bug to fix.
Work around: I discovered, is to turn off both Interlinear Pane and Inline Display 
for ALL RVI Resources (?)
Observation: if settings information are uniquely kept for each and every copy of the same RVI across All Layouts, I think we should be OK.
The Layout below is what I used for this discussion, I labeled the Tiles 1,2,3 and 4 where 1:Top Left, 2: Top Right, 3: Bottom Right and 4: Bottom Left.
I recalled the sequence of accessing each Tile will determine how each of these (window) handles are internally stacked. So I reconstruct this same layout and update the layout each time it gets messed up for the following 4 cases by resetting each tiles in the following order for each case:
- Case 1: Tile 1, 2, 3 followed by 4
- Case 2: Tile 2, 3, 4, followed by 1
- Case 3: Tile 3, 4, 1 followed by 2
- Case 4: Tile 4, 1, 2 followed by 3
- I repeat the process with repeatable and consistent messed up(s).
Instead of getting my Layout as above, the following is what I get when I load my layout following the sequence in the 4 cases above:
- Case 1: Tile 1, 2, 3 followed by 4
- Case 2: Tile 2, 3, 4, followed by 1
- Case 3: Tile 3, 4, 1 followed by 2
- Case 4: Tile 4, 1, 2 followed by 3
JK
MacBookPro Retina 15" Late 2013 2.6GHz RAM:16GB SSD:500GB macOS Sierra 10.12.3 | iPhone 7 Plus iOS 10.2.1
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LimJK said:
I wanted the options to display more or less information for each copy of the RVI resource:
- some cases I want RVI to display only the English surface text, without Interlinear Pane (due to space constraints)
- some other cases I want more or less information from the interlinear Pane (space or relevance considerations)
- In yet other cases I want the inline Display with more or less information (space or relevance considerations)
Alternate idea is visual filter highlighting, which can combine highlighting so one word can have many highlights. For example, Pray in Matthew 24:20 has present tense (background), imperative mood (font), middle voice (superscript image after word), and plural number (image above word: squiggly line) from four of my Logos Greek Morphology visual filters. Several of my highlighting palettes have style names to reflect usage so can use Highlighting tool as a color code key.
In the the top two resources am highlighting verbal usage and things. In the ESV, a right click on brown words often has a Biblical Things choice. With verbs and things highlighted in Greek and English, can quickly compare across languages. The Greek verbal system is more expressive than English so verbal highlighting shows range of expression: e.g. Matthew 24:15-28 has nine verbs in the imperative mood, including two with negation so have seven items to do plus two items to avoid. The Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament (LDGNT) also includes tagging to emphasize words that are not in expected order (have been moved for emphasis, which has a visual filter with image below):
The bottom two resources has more Logos Greek Morphology visual filtering turned on along with displaying Louw-Nida numbers for Greek words. Hovering over a Louw-Nida number shows a pop-up with contextual range of meaning.
Note: using different resources for visual filtering since same set of visual highlighting is used in all open copies of a resource.
WIki has => Examples of visual filters with screen shots showing visual filters. Personally wish for way to share visual filters and highlighting palettes.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Alternate idea is visual filter highlighting, which can combine highlighting so one word can have many highlights.
KS4J,
Thanks for the visual filter suggestion.
However, some people that I was trying to help to use Logos (vs BW or Accordance) are not so technical and wanted something simpler. I really hope someone in Logos can take a look at this and provide a workable solution.
JK
MacBookPro Retina 15" Late 2013 2.6GHz RAM:16GB SSD:500GB macOS Sierra 10.12.3 | iPhone 7 Plus iOS 10.2.1
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Hi LimJK:
I'm really sorry but I can't seem to find a "this is the problem". Most of your post is setup related, and though KS4J probably gets what the problem is due to using the program on a pretty high level, I do not.
Can you give me a "tl:dr" (too long; didn't read) version that I can then look to for what the issue is, and then go to this setup post to get the more detailed stuff because, though I did read the post, I don't really follow from it what the problem is.
If it is what Tim Bray was epxeriencing over here http://community.logos.com/forums/t/54373.aspx, than I can't reproduce the issue (at least as I understand it). I'm going to post there what I did step by step to see if I did what he was describing, correctly.
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Tommy Ball said:
Can you give me a "tl:dr" (too long; didn't read) version that I can then look to for what the issue is, and then go to this setup post to get the more detailed stuff because, though I did read the post, I don't really follow from it what the problem is.
I don't have enough free RAM to open Logos and test the theory, but as I understand it his issue is simple enough to describe:
- Open one or more ESV's with the RI ribbon turned on.
- Open one or more ESV's with the RI ribbon turned off.
- Save and close the layout.
- If I'm right, the next time you open it, it will open with all ESV's looking the same. You can't save a layout with one RI on and one RI off,
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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