Bug: Creating new notes documents using the iPad app

Graham Criddle
Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490
edited November 21 in English Forum

Hi

When creating a new notes document using the "+" button in the "Note Documents" dialog box, the new Note Document is not selected when returning to the dialog box.

It would be more intuitive if this were done.

Is this possible to include in a later release?

Thanks, Graham

PS: this was first discussed in http://community.logos.com/forums/p/44932/336185.aspx#336185

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  • Andy
    Andy Member Posts: 2,282

    When creating a new notes document using the "+" button in the "Note Documents" dialog box, the new Note Document is not selected when returning to the dialog box.

    Hi Graham,

    I wonder if this is actually a bug. I note that when you create a new notes document (using +) it is added to the list of documents and marked with a tick (as if it is selected). As you correctly state, however, the new note document requires a further deliberate selection even though it is already marked as active.

    The tick suggests that the behaviour you report is not by design.

    Andy

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    Thanks Andy

    The tick suggests that the behaviour you report is not by design.

    Good point - I have updated the Subject field to flag this as a bug!

    Graham

  • Danny Baskin
    Danny Baskin Member Posts: 221
  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    Hi

    When creating a new notes document using the "+" button in the "Note Documents" dialog box, the new Note Document is not selected when returning to the dialog box.

    It would be more intuitive if this were done.

    Is this possible to include in a later release?

    Thanks, Graham

    Hi Graham,

    The Note Documents UI has changed a lot in Logos Suite 3.  Newly created Note Documents appear at the top of the list and can no longer be "selected" - in effect, the newest Documents always appear at the top which seems to be pretty intuitive.  Thanks for your input!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490
  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    Hi Kevin

    Newly created Note Documents appear at the top of the list and can no longer be "selected" - in effect, the newest Documents always appear at the top which seems to be pretty intuitive.

    I aren't seeing this - having just downloaded v3.

    When I try and create a note and click on the right-arrow in the Document box I get the same list of Notes documents that I got in v2.

    If I then create a new notes file this is still not preserved when I get back to the Note dialog box

    What am I missing?

    Graham

  • Steve Marquez
    Steve Marquez Member Posts: 27

    It would be great if there was an ability to sort (by the way, sorting is a great feature when you click edit) by descending or ascending, not just by the particular sort criteria. When sorting by reference, the default makes the lowest numbered verse or chapter the first and so on. If I am going through the scripture systematically, I want the highest numbered at the top so that my notes can be the most recent. However, when I am finished, the ability to make the lowest verse most helpful to refer back. Make sense?

    Overall, I love the new update!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    Hi Kevin

    Newly created Note Documents appear at the top of the list and can no longer be "selected" - in effect, the newest Documents always appear at the top which seems to be pretty intuitive.

    I aren't seeing this - having just downloaded v3.

    When I try and create a note and click on the right-arrow in the Document box I get the same list of Notes documents that I got in v2.

    If I then create a new notes file this is still not preserved when I get back to the Note dialog box

    What am I missing?

    Graham

    Bump

     

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    Hi Kevin

    Newly created Note Documents appear at the top of the list and can no longer be "selected" - in effect, the newest Documents always appear at the top which seems to be pretty intuitive.

    I aren't seeing this - having just downloaded v3.

    When I try and create a note and click on the right-arrow in the Document box I get the same list of Notes documents that I got in v2.

    If I then create a new notes file this is still not preserved when I get back to the Note dialog box

    What am I missing?

    Graham

    Bump

    Hi Graham,

    Does this help?  http://screencast.com/t/P0ru9UezVDqe  Here a new Note Document (which contains Notes) is created, and then a Note is created inside of the Note Document.  Once you return to the Home page the Note document appears at the top of the list in the Documents panel and can be navigated into.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    Hi Kevin

    Thanks for this - appreciated. And, yes, I see how that works.

    However, I was interacting with notes in a different way - from within a resource. The set of screen shots below should demonstrate what I am seeing - keen to understand whether this is as expected.

    In the first shot I am simply selecting a portion of text against which I am going to create a note

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    When I press the "Note" button, the dialog box which appears shows that a notesfile is already selected. It is the one I have been using but the purpose of this I am going to create a new one.

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    So I click on the arrow to the right of the document box and get the expected dialog box

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    I press the "+" to allow me to create a new document and type in the name of the document

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    When I return to the Notesfile selection dialog box you can see that the new notesfile is selected

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    However, when I return to the note editor, the old notesfile is still shown as active

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    So this is one issue - which has been discussed before - that creating a new notesfile does not automatically select it - even though there are indications that it has.

    So I go back to the notesfile selection dialog, choose the new notesfile and it then becomes active allowing me to create the note I wanted

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    This is now visible in the resource as you would expect

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    I now try to create another note

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    when the note editor opens the recently created notesfile is active - as you would expect

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    but when I press the arrow to the right of the document box - to allow me to select another notesfile - the newly created one is not shown at the top of the list. Rather, things are just shown in alphabetical order.

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    So two issues on which I would appreciate comment:


    • Should creating / selecting a notesfile as demonstrated above result in it becoming active in the note editor without the extra steps that are currently required?
    • Should a newly created notesfile appear at the top of the list of notesfile in the selection box? It would be very useful if the most recently used notesfiles appeared in a section at the top of this box. I normally have five or six notesfiles active (as I am reading through different documents) and it would be really helpful if I could easily switch between them without scrolling through the alphabetically sorted list.

    I hope this clarifies what I am seeing - appreciate any feedback / insights

    Graham

     

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    So two issues on which I would appreciate comment:

    • Should creating / selecting a notesfile as demonstrated above result in it becoming active in the note editor without the extra steps that are currently required?
    • Should a newly created notesfile appear at the top of the list of notesfile in the selection box? It would be very useful if the most recently used notesfiles appeared in a section at the top of this box. I normally have five or six notesfiles active (as I am reading through different documents) and it would be really helpful if I could easily switch between them without scrolling through the alphabetically sorted list.

    I hope this clarifies what I am seeing - appreciate any feedback / insights

    Graham

    Thanks Graham,

    I see what you mean - I'll write up a case or two and send them to Development.  

    On your first question, it indeed seems that the last notes file selected should be the new active default since usually when entering Notes users will most likely be using the same document for multiple notes.  On your second question, some might wish an alphabetical list and others a "sort by recent" list.  I'll ask Development about the possibility of adding a sort feature to this dialog.

    -kevin