Life in the Spirit New Testament Commentary
I have used Life in the Spirit New Testament Commentary by Zondervan for several years. Zondervan quit publishing it. I think it is the best 1-vol commentary available. If you have used it and would like to see Logos add it to their Zondervan list, please respond and see how much interest there might be in this.
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I am charismatic, so of course I want it. Given the rarity of Pentecostal/Charismatic commentaries I think anyone of this persuasion would be all over it. I would think that even those of a different theological stance would still want to reference it from time to time, for a wider perspective on various issues. "For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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I like it, too.
Re: Charismatic works, there is also this, which would be nice to have in Logos: http://www.renewaltheology.net/index.html - you can read an excerpt online.
(It's too bad whoever designed the above Webpage repeatedly misspells "Pentecostal" - I've contacted the Webmaster or contact person about this.)
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
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Eric,
Thanks for the link to Renewal Theology. I have the 3 vol set and have used it often. That would be another great resource for Logos.
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I think this was republished as the Fire Bible. Can anyone confirm that?
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Not personally familiar with this (though very interested), but I see a few references (from Google)
http://www.biblealliance.org/Fire_Bible_History.ihtml?id=340288
http://www.thekjvstore.com/kjv-bibles/study-bibles/kjv-fire-bible.html
"It started out as the Full Life Study Bible; then it became the Life in the Spirit Study Bible. Now we know it as the new and improved Fire Bible—a reference library in one volume."
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There are a couple of different things being mentioned in this thread (I have them all).
First, there's the thread starter's reference to the "Life in the Spirit NT Commentary." It's a fabulous one book commentary that I'd highly recommend to anyone that wants to see what traditional, conservative Pentecostals theology is. I used the descriptive words I did so as to alert people that this volume is N-O-T written from a Word of Faith, Prosperity Gospel, hyper-Charismatic (feelings and emotions without the doctrine) perspective. It really is worth it's weight in gold as far as I'm concerned.
Second, there's the "Full Life Study Bible." This was published in the early 90s by Zondervan and later revised and called the "Life in the Spirit Study Bible." It was recently picked up by Hendrickson and is now called the "Fire Bible." They are all essentially the same, although minor revisions leave me loving the original more than the other two. This is easily my number one resource tool and the best study bible on the market from a traditional Pentecostal perspective. It's indispensable as far as I'm concerned.
I'd give my right arm if these two resources were added to Logos. Well, okay, that may be a bit of hyperbole. But not by much. [;)]
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Gary,
I have been out of the office for several days. You are correct in identifying 2 different books. The Fire Bible (originally FLSB and LSSB) was the project by one of our missionaries for pastors overseas who do not have access to Bible study material. It has become the staple of many national pastors. I think it is currently available in 39 languages. Zondervan picked up these notes and originally published as FLSB. The commentary was an outflow of this project from what I understand. In correspondence with one of the contributers to the commentary, Accordance software has acquired the rights and will soon have it available as a component to their software. Was hoping Logos would do that so I don't have to buy another Bible software.
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The Fire Bible has been available in Accordance for quite a while.
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I was not aware of that. Thanks for the info. The commentary should be coming soon.
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It's also available in the PC Study Bible now. The Fire Bible, that is. Not the Commentary.
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I've used Live in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible from Zondervan and love it. Is this the same resource you are referring to? Logos should be have this valuable resource in electronic form.
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This is the commentary that is a companion to the Life in the Spirit Bible. Accordance is picking it up and it should be out soon.
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I've always loved my Life in the Spirit New Testament Commentary. It is one of the few reasonable commentaries out there that gives good scholarship with a Pentecostal/Charismatic viewpoint. Its only downside right now is that it is not currently available in Logos. This means that I can only have access to it when I am sitting in my church office. PLEASE add this resource!
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I completely agree, Stephen. This is, for lack of a better word, one of the two "holy grail" resources I'm hoping and praying Logos will get. The other is the companion to it, the "Life in the Spirit Study Bible" or it's twin brother, the "Fire Bible."
Pretty please, Logos. I need these resources if I am to use the software to it's fullest. I honestly don't want to use other software that has these available. I'd like to stick exclusively with Logos, but these two resources are critical for me.
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I have never used the commentary, but if you fill this strongly about it I for one would like to see a Logos version. I vote yes to the suggestion. There can never be enough one volume commentaries. Terry
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Amen!
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Thanks, Terry. This really would be a dream come true should Logos decide to carry it.
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I wish Logos had picked this up. It is available on Accordance as Life in the Spirit New Testament Commentary.
I really don't want to buy another software program to get it.
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Richard Schoonover said:
I wish Logos had picked this up. It is available on Accordance as Life in the Spirit New Testament Commentary.
( ... some link ...)
I really don't want to buy another software program to get it.
I think we all agree that we wish to have this resource (and many many more) in Logos. I hope they pick this up; we are told they monitor this forum and keep a list of suggested resources for their negotiations with copyright holders - you may additionally suggest a Logos edition to the publisher's feedback channels.PS: Please edit your post to disable your link. We are on Logos' turf here and while they don't mind us mentioning other bible software companies, they ask us to refrain from linking to their sites. Editing works by clicking the "more" button to the top right of your post, then select "edit". Thanks!EDIT: Thank you!Have joy in the Lord!
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Man, this one really brought the charismatics out of the woodwork [;)]
I'm in [Y]
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I know several of the authors. They are great men and women of God. That, along with the solid commentary, makes this a valuable volume for me.
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Richard Schoonover said:
I know several of the authors. They are great men and women of God. That, along with the solid commentary, makes this a valuable volume for me.
Agreed on all points.
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Well, it's good to know that there's a digital version of it out there at least. I agree, though. I really don't want to have to buy another program in order to have a digital edition of this commentary. But I'm getting more and more tempted. Come on Logos!
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I asked Logos if they had any plans for this resource and this is the answer I got:
"We do not currently have anything in the works to bring that product in to the Logos format. Thanks for asking. Have a wonderful day!"
I really don't want to pay $120 to get this commentary on digital format ($49.99 for the Accordance software + $69.99 for the commentary), especially if I have to use a separate program, but I'm starting to lean that way...
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Just to keep everyone here up to date, I just received a message from Rich Tatum at Logos:
"Just a personal note, though, Stephen, I was hired to expand our content offering for both Pentecostals and Charismatics and this is definitely on my list of things I will talk to the rights-holders about. By God's grace, we will find favor."
Here's hoping!
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[Y] I would like to see these resources added to Logos! [Y]
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Anyone hear anything else about if Logos has made any headway on making this resource available? It's starting to look like I should have purchased Accordance Bible Software instead of Logos--they have all the resources I have on Logos and all the ones I can't find on Logos.
Logos, if you have any updates on if and when this is coming, I'd love to hear them!
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Stephen Valcourt said:
Anyone hear anything else about if Logos has made any headway on making this resource available? It's starting to look like I should have purchased Accordance Bible Software instead of Logos--they have all the resources I have on Logos and all the ones I can't find on Logos.
Logos, if you have any updates on if and when this is coming, I'd love to hear them!
Amen to all of this. I love Logos and desperately want to keep it as my default bible software, but the continued neglect of Pentecostal materials like the "Life in the Spirit NT Commentary" and "Fire Bible" make it very difficult to remain faithful. How the company can find a way to offer material from seemingly every other theological persuasion, but not from Pentecostals, is incredibly sad. I've begged them for years now to offer a few works that I consider very standard and nothing has changed. I'm about to give up hope.
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on a positive note, they have added quite a few books by Pentecostals on vyrso. I have also read here on the forums that they are looking to hire someone to manage Pentecostal products.
There has also been talk of developing a Pentecostal base package like has been done for the Anglicans, Lutherans, etc...
I think that some good things are still to come : ) Just give it some time.
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Gary Osborne said:
How the company can find a way to offer material from seemingly every other theological persuasion, but not from Pentecostals, is incredibly sad.
As late as a year ago they had virtually nothing specifically Orthodox or SDA. Then they hired some new Product Managers, and now they do. Unfortunately, however, the Pentecostal Product Manager left again, which is why that market has fallen behind.
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I am wondering if anyone knows the situation as far as a Pentecostal product manager... I would love to see the Life in the Spirit New Testament Commentary come to Logos. The only Bible software I know of that has it as of now is Accordance. I'm so invested in Logos at this point that I am just hoping they pick this product up soon!
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You are responding to a post that is s decade old. Logos is no longer structured around denominational managers.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I'm definitely out of the loop on Logos' organizational structure. The desire for this resource to be available in Logos still stands and I wanted to bump the thread - that's all.
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There is a book request in Logos Feedback (assuming this is the work you mean) to which you could add your vote:
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
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Yes, I have done that as well. However, it doesn't hurt to see if others have heard any information on it in the meantime. Thanks all!
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