BUG: Logos 5.0b Beta 3 BWS Result Graphs are Blank - Missing Resource

Logos 5.0b Beta 3 on OS X 10.8.2 and Windows 7 lack Resource in ... so Graph Bible Search Result is blank for lemma and root:

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Opened Bible Word Study (BWS) Guide for μένω then hovered mouse over a lemma and root result bar so John appeared in a pop-up then clicked.  However, all graphs do not have Resource to graph results.

Changed translation in Translation section, then clicked to Graph results, but Resource in ... does not populate for any of the translations so graphing shows nothing.

Edit: Logos 4 Windows thread => Word study - occurrence graph not showing has similar issue

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    Hi KS4J

    I can't reproduce this with 5.0b Beta 3 on Windows 8.

    Do you get this clicking on all lemmas in the root section or just some?

    Graham

  • Do you get this clicking on all lemmas in the root section or just some?

    Personally experiencing lack of focus for all lemma's and roots:

    ElementUtility    Couldn't find default focus; focus set to first focusable item.

    0842.Logos.zip

    Changing default Bible and restating Logos 5.0b Beta 3 remains without focus for graphing results.

    Other oddity is lack of addition to Guide menu after running a Guide.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    I'm with Graham on this one. Am I missing something?

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    However, are you trying to graph the results you see on hover sub-graph rather than the actual results of your search? If so, I don't think that has ever been an option.






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  • MJ. Smith said:

    However, are you trying to graph the results you see on hover sub-graph rather than the actual results of your search?

    Clicking in yellow areas of BWS lacks Resource for graphing results:

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Clicking in yellow areas of BWS lacks Resource for graphing results:

    and I still can't get this on my system

    Clicking in those areas provides the expected graphs with the expected resource[8-)]

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    me as well - must be a special feature for you?






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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,329

    Strange. I see the same as KS4J - from looking at your screenshots I suspected a NRSV versus ESV difference, came up empty on my NIV (btw: 117 hits here, not 118) and checked both of the others - no joy. In the box where it says lemma:μενω in ... I can't get any bible translation and the dropdown arrow seems to generate a white miniature square

     

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    I'm running the latest beta on a Win 7 Home, 32 bit PC. Maybe I'll have it write a log.

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    Hi Mick

    NB.Mick said:

    Maybe I'll have it write a log.

    Good idea[:)]

    When I execute the graph command, there is a parameter specifying the resource "LLS:1.0.50" which corresponds to the NRSV

    2013-01-21 11:26:20.3992 1 Info AppCommand (Timed) Executing command: GraphBibleSearchResults|DisplayQueryText=lemma:μένω|QueryText=<Lemma%20%3d%20lbs/el/μένω>|ResourceIds=LLS:1.0.50|SelectedReferenceRange=

    4544.bws graph log.txt

    It will be interesting to see what you get

    Graham

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,636

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Logos 5.0b Beta 3 on OS X 10.8.2

    Could not confirm this in Mac 5.0b Beta 3 Mac OS 10.7.5 using ESV as in your screenshot. All charts populated normally.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,329

    It will be interesting to see what you get

    This: 0042.Logos.log

    Seems it's syncing all the time... however, what I did:

    I set NRSV as preferred bible, closed L5 and restarted. I ran a BWS on μένω - got the results, including the small graph on the distribution of the 118 hits. Clicked on it to invoke the graphical display: tab came up empty. Tried the dropdown box for the bible translation (small white box), varied some of the graphs - no change. Closed L5.

    In the log, directly before the line

    2013-01-21 14:05:37.8832 1 Info AppCommand (Timed) Executing command: GraphBibleSearchResults|DisplayQueryText=lemma:μένω|QueryText=<Lemma%20%3d%20lbs/el/μένω>|ResourceIds=LLS:1.0.50|SelectedReferenceRange=

    (note, it shows the lemma in Greek in Notepad++ as well as in the Win 7 notepad - could this be a hint?)

    there is a strange warning - related? 

    2013-01-21 14:05:16.2660 6 Warn KeyLinkManager Matched override reference gnt/5051 in LLS:46.30.4 but there were no corresponding milestones for the headword/reference.

    No idea what resource LLS 46.30.4 is

    The dates of my NRSV and related RI are 


    LLS:1.0.50
    2012-12-10T15:47:45Z
    NRSV.logos4
    RVI:NRSVNT
    2012-12-07T23:55:31Z
    NRSVNT.lbsrvi

     

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    Hi Mick

    NB.Mick said:

    there is a strange warning - related? 

    2013-01-21 14:05:16.2660 6 Warn KeyLinkManager Matched override reference gnt/5051 in LLS:46.30.4 but there were no corresponding milestones for the headword/reference.

    I don't think this is related - it is in thread 6 as opposed to thread 1 which is managing the BWS transactions.

    I did see that the Graph Call has a strange reference to "disputed passage" which may or may not be relevant.

    2013-01-21 14:05:38.2092 1 Info PanelViewModel Applying panel settings for Preferences: CaseSensitivity=IgnoreCase|DisplayQueryText=lemma:μένω|QueryText=<Lemma%20%3d%20lbs/el/μένω>|ResourceIds=LLS:1.0.50|SelectedMarkupAndFields=;%20disputed-passage%20later-addition|SelectedReferenceRange=|ShowZeroItems=True|TextMatch=Stem|ViewSettings=ResultMap

    Need someone who can look into these more deeply than I can!

    Graham 

     

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    NB.Mick said:

    I set NRSV as preferred bible, closed L5 and
    restarted. I ran a BWS on μένω - got the results, including the small
    graph on the distribution of the 118 hits. Clicked on it to invoke the
    graphical display: tab came up empty.

    I had no problem getting graph results with ESV and NRSV and I didn't restart Logos after switching preferred from ESV to NRSV.

    NB.Mick said:

    Seems it's syncing all the time... however, what I did:

    Request to Logos:  Please suppress the Info SyncManager  lines as these just create a lot of noise when trying to track significant events.

    NB.Mick said:

    No idea what resource LLS 46.30.4 is

    Likewise. It  (seems to be) related  to running a guide template.

    Dave
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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,329

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Logos 4 Windows thread => Word study - occurrence graph not showing has similar issue

    As had Steve Clark in http://community.logos.com/forums/t/32296.aspx 

    I tried the "fix" (whatever it was) that helped there: running the BWS from the LEB for lemma μενω instead of the menu. No graphics in "Graph Bible Search Results". Seems the feature is broken for some users in 5.0b beta 3 and is/was in some versions of 4 - but why?

     

     

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,289

    NB.Mick said:

    No idea what resource LLS 46.30.4 is

    It is Louw-Nida's "Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament based on semantic domains"

    If you type "open lls:46.30;4" into the Logos command bar it translates it for you.[:)]

    But, as above, I don't think its related to this issue

    Graham

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,329

    If you type "open lls:46.30;4" into the Logos command bar it translates it for you

    Thanks Graham - seems I'm learning something new about Logos everday!

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,329

    I did see that the Graph Call has a strange reference to "disputed passage" which may or may not be relevant.

    but this reference is not contained in KS4J's log from above (the Matched override reference neither). And while I see the lemma in Greek chars in KS4J's log, your posting distorts the Greek from my log, so: is this your browser and your log writes μενω ?

    Graham Criddle said:Need someone who can look into these more deeply

    True dat. Just for the record: for me the bug is unchanged in the current RC = Logos Bible Software 5.0b (5.0.2.0556)  

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  • Brisa Davis
    Brisa Davis Member Posts: 891 ✭✭

    I am unable to reproduce this issue, but I have passed your logs on to the Development department for investigation. 

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,191

    We have been able to reproduce the problem and have updated the bug report.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,191

    To fix the problem, run a Bible Search in "All Bible Text" (that is, make sure you're not searching "Words of Christ" or "Surface" or similar) for a word that occurs in your preferred Bible (e.g., "blessed"), then click "Graph results" at the top of the window.

    This will reset an internal preference that has gotten "stuck", which prevents results from appearing when Graph Bible Search is launched from BWS.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,329

    To fix the problem, run a Bible Search in "All Bible Text" (that is, make sure you're not searching "Words of Christ" or "Surface" or similar) for a word that occurs in your preferred Bible (e.g., "blessed"), then click "Graph results" at the top of the window.

    Wow! I can confirm this fix works (5.0b RC on Win7). Thanks, Bradley!

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • To fix the problem, run a Bible Search in "All Bible Text" (that is, make sure you're not searching "Words of Christ" or "Surface" or similar) for a word that occurs in your preferred Bible (e.g., "blessed"), then click "Graph results" at the top of the window.

    This will reset an internal preference that has gotten "stuck", which prevents results from appearing when Graph Bible Search is launched from BWS.

    Thanks, confirmed fix steps worked in Logos 5.0b RC2 on OS X.

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