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  • davidphillips
    davidphillips Member Posts: 640 ✭✭

    Here's a screen shot of an excel workbook. You can see I have the cell border tools (circled in red) in the quick access tool bar so I can quickly add borders. I also have the add row and column functions there as well. image

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    David, 

    Thanks a lot for the illustration! I started my own method similar to this:

    image

    Now the only question is how to best import this into Word for a personal book... I tried taking a screen shot but it ends up extremely small when put into logos format (even when I increase the size of the pic in excel) and I also tried stretching and enlarging the pic but then it ends up blurry. I also tried to copy and then paste into word, but when pasted to word, all the cells become reshaped to the size of whatever text is in the cell, making the whole chart seem out of proportion, some parts reallly large, and some small. It would be great if I could get it into Logos and get it to look the same as it does here in excel! 

    Anyone have any ideas?

     

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    For some reason I can't post the screen shot to the forum. You can click on the link if you want to see it. Sorry.

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    Now the only question is how to best import this into Word for a personal book

    You might try installing BullZip PDF printer. Experiment with different output options. You can probably Print to the BullZip printer, change the format from PDF to PNG, and then insert that into your document. I have not tested it myself...

     

    BullZip http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    I have tried using the visual filters to highlight prepositions

    Hey Andy, I made this Visual Filter with help from KS4J a while back and it helps a ton when actually working through an arc. I'm no expert at arcing but this VF actually inserts a return into the text of your Bible and puts up a marker for causal, explanitory, contrastive, and inferential conjunctions. The result is very similar to the HDNT (not quite as nice of course) and sets out all of these conjunctions onto their own separate line. It also contains markers for other conjunctions that are less prominent for arcing without separating them onto a new line. I posted it to this Faithlife group that I created dedicated to Arcing:https://faithlife.com/arcing/activity. Feel free to join the group and just click on the Document Tab and get the filter. (I think it only works for L5 - so if you don't have it you should download the free version of L5!)

    Hope this is helpful for anyone out there struggling with arcing!

  • Andy
    Andy Member Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭

    Hope this is helpful for anyone out there struggling with arcing!

    Hi Liam,

    Thanks so much for this. I look forward to trying out the visual filters.

    Very much appreciated.

    Andy

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    I have tried using the visual filters to highlight prepositions

    Hey Andy, I made this Visual Filter with help from KS4J a while back and it helps a ton when actually working through an arc. I'm no expert at arcing but this VF actually inserts a return into the text of your Bible and puts up a marker for causal, explanitory, contrastive, and inferential conjunctions. The result is very similar to the HDNT (not quite as nice of course) and sets out all of these conjunctions onto their own separate line. It also contains markers for other conjunctions that are less prominent for arcing without separating them onto a new line. I posted it to this Faithlife group that I created dedicated to Arcing:https://faithlife.com/arcing/activity. Feel free to join the group and just click on the Document Tab and get the filter. (I think it only works for L5 - so if you don't have it you should download the free version of L5!)

    Hope this is helpful for anyone out there struggling with arcing!

    Ok, I would like to do the same here in Hebrew for the OT. The problem is, that the Hebrew morphologies that I have do not have conjunctions like the greek. There is not an option for causal, inferance, explative etc. I have no idea how Hebrew works so I'm not sure if such a thing is possible. Does anyone who is familiar with the Hebrew have any pointers?

  • Ken F Hill
    Ken F Hill Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭

    davidphillips,  Nice.  Very imaginative use of spreadsheets.

    Yours inspired me to try arcing using freeware (and multi-platform) mind mapper, Freeplane.

    I tried to step through the process in a book recommended in this thread, using 1 Timothy 6.1-2. The mindmap look is close enough for me.  (see below)

    This technique has what I see as an advantage -- being able to put notes on the right of the verse as well as arcing on the left. You can fold notes out of the way to see only the arcing and verses. I've included a little bogus notes sample to the right of 2a.

    Freeplane lets you enhance arcing by using colors and/or icons. I created the "S..." (for series) and "G" (for ground) as well as the Greek 'a' (for lexicon info). The other icons come standard with FP.  It is pretty simple to add icons and colors to a map.

    So far, this is the only passage I've tried.  I found myself having to think in Freeplane as well as in arcing. But I found the arcing site to be similar and I never got used to those mechanics.  I think I could get used to this a lot easier than the arcing site.  I've been using Freeplane for a while but just never tried it for arcing.  As they say, your mileage may vary.

    This has the disadvantage of not being inside Logos. Of course, you can link back to Logos as you can in any program that lets you use hyperlinks.

      

  • Andy Devine
    Andy Devine Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    I know this is an older post, but I am so EXCITED to have found this out about being able to use arcing in LOGOS with the diagramming tool!!! I am still in the early learning stages of learning it from the main site, but I didn't want to keep secondary subscription in order to be able to arc on my MAC. :)

  • Ken F Hill
    Ken F Hill Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭

    A quick update on using open source Freeplane.  Here are 2 tweaked versions of the original mindmap arc sample.  One has the arc documentation on the left, the other on the right.

    If the image is not attached to this post, it can be found at https://www.dropbox.com/s/ou6418wgj0htmxj/Bible arc sample _ 1 Tim 6.1-2.bmp?dl=0

    davidphillips,  Nice.  Very imaginative use of spreadsheets.

    Yours inspired me to try arcing using freeware (and multi-platform) mind mapper, Freeplane.

    I tried to step through the process in a book recommended in this thread, using 1 Timothy 6.1-2. The mindmap look is close enough for me.  (see below)

    This technique has what I see as an advantage -- being able to put notes on the right of the verse as well as arcing on the left. You can fold notes out of the way to see only the arcing and verses. I've included a little bogus notes sample to the right of 2a.

    Freeplane lets you enhance arcing by using colors and/or icons. I created the "S..." (for series) and "G" (for ground) as well as the Greek 'a' (for lexicon info). The other icons come standard with FP.  It is pretty simple to add icons and colors to a map.

    So far, this is the only passage I've tried.  I found myself having to think in Freeplane as well as in arcing. But I found the arcing site to be similar and I never got used to those mechanics.  I think I could get used to this a lot easier than the arcing site.  I've been using Freeplane for a while but just never tried it for arcing.  As they say, your mileage may vary.

    This has the disadvantage of not being inside Logos. Of course, you can link back to Logos as you can in any program that lets you use hyperlinks.

      

  • Ken F Hill
    Ken F Hill Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭

    A quick update on using open source Freeplane.  Here are 2 tweaked versions of the original mindmap arc sample.  One has the arc documentation on the left, the other on the right.

    If the image is not attached to this post, it can be found at https://www.dropbox.com/s/ou6418wgj0htmxj/Bible arc sample _ 1 Tim 6.1-2.bmp?dl=0

    davidphillips,  Nice.  Very imaginative use of spreadsheets.

    Yours inspired me to try arcing using freeware (and multi-platform) mind mapper, Freeplane.

    I tried to step through the process in a book recommended in this thread, using 1 Timothy 6.1-2. The mindmap look is close enough for me.  (see below)

    This technique has what I see as an advantage -- being able to put notes on the right of the verse as well as arcing on the left. You can fold notes out of the way to see only the arcing and verses. I've included a little bogus notes sample to the right of 2a.

    Freeplane lets you enhance arcing by using colors and/or icons. I created the "S..." (for series) and "G" (for ground) as well as the Greek 'a' (for lexicon info). The other icons come standard with FP.  It is pretty simple to add icons and colors to a map.

    So far, this is the only passage I've tried.  I found myself having to think in Freeplane as well as in arcing. But I found the arcing site to be similar and I never got used to those mechanics.  I think I could get used to this a lot easier than the arcing site.  I've been using Freeplane for a while but just never tried it for arcing.  As they say, your mileage may vary.

    This has the disadvantage of not being inside Logos. Of course, you can link back to Logos as you can in any program that lets you use hyperlinks.