BUG: 5.1 Beta 1 Notes Editor - vertical scrollbar broken, links don't work properly, search box
Link issue first: all the bible references are still blue but I can't get them to work whatever I do. The reason seems to be that there is no chain-link reference for existing bible verse references.
If the chain-link is necessary for references to work, this is a functional loss of data!
When I created a new test note, the editor immediately detected a bible reference and made it blue plus put in a chain-link reference.
Chain-linked links to these bible verses (actually logosref-links) or to websites or files on my disk will work (only) by Ctrl-Click. This is unfortunate since I happen to expect this to work on double click, or at least to be a part of the right-click menu.
Another unfortunate aspect: to find my new note, I used the Ctrl-F search box. Works perfect - but: since this box is a drop-out it covers information on the screen (I know you guys didn't invent it, but I still think this is bad UI design), in this case the key-link. When I close the search box the selection is killed (even if I was in active edit in the note text field before) and the Note file starts at the beginning!
In fact, to make the screenshot with the chain link visible, I had to locate the note by scrolling.
Scrollbar issue: Some of my existing notes (i.e not created or changed in the beta) have long text in them. In split view, the vertical scrollbar is sometimes not active at all, when it is active, it is much too short for longer notes. Technically, this may be due to a too small text window calculated somehow. Scrolling will work in this too small window, but going beyond with cursor keys won't change the display (note the text is still there - as can be seen in full view - and selecting beyond the visible area is possible).
The scrollbar/text window length is calculated differently on the 15.4'' screen as opposed to the 24'' screen, but both times wrong.
Have joy in the Lord! 
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Hi Mick
NB.Mick said:Link issue first: all the bible references are still blue but I can't get them to work whatever I do. The reason seems to be that there is no chain-link reference for existing bible verse references.
If the chain-link is necessary for references to work, this is a functional loss of data!
I don't see this problem.
The screenshot below is from an existing notesfile and - as you can see - the reference is still there.
So, hopefully Logos can work out what it works for me but not for you.
This is assuming that I have the new editor enabled - it seems to look just the same to me!
Graham
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I saw no real difference either!
Bob Deacon
Ipad Air 2 (ios 9.7 (0014)
Windows 11 inside edition
Samsung S23
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Bob Deacon said:
I saw no real difference either!
I think most of the changes are "under the hood." Have you looked there? [:P]
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Graham Criddle said:NB.Mick said:
Link issue first: all the bible references are still blue but I can't get them to work whatever I do. The reason seems to be that there is no chain-link reference for existing bible verse references.
If the chain-link is necessary for references to work, this is a functional loss of data!
I don't see this problem.
Good for you, Graham!
It's persistent in my notes file, also in smaller notes:
But it also is the same in my local copy of shared notes files such as Dr Robert Dean's Notes
(you may check them out at https://documents.logos.com/groups/3250405/documents if you become a member of https://faithlife.com/dr-robert-deans-notes/activity - maybe Whyndell can chime in, as he is part of the group)
Have joy in the Lord!
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Graham Criddle said:
The screenshot below is from an existing notesfile and - as you can see - the reference is still there.
So, hopefully Logos can work out what it works for me but not for you.
Interesting. Your link has a bible verse reference. What sort of reference do you see when you type a new link that is recognized by Logos, the same or a logosref: ? (are you running a Mac perchance?)
Have joy in the Lord!
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Hi Alan
Alan Palmer (Logos) said:This has the appearance of the old notes editor.
I think that's one of my areas of confusion.
The editor seems exactly the same to me - do I need to do anything in order to invoke the new one?
This was just looking at an existing notesfile but it seems to be the same when I create a new one.
Graham
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NB.Mick said:
Interesting. Your link has a bible verse reference. What sort of reference do you see when you type a new link that is recognized by Logos,
I get a Bible verse reference.
NB.Mick said:(are you running a Mac perchance?)
I am running on Windows
But I'm not convinced I am using the new editor[:)]
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Alan Palmer (Logos) said:
This has the appearance of the old notes editor.
If it is supposed to look different, perhaps a screen shot would help. [:)]
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Graham Criddle said:
I am running on Windows
But I'm not convinced I am using the new editor
Maybe a restart of Windows will change this?
EDIT: If this doesn't do, I speculated in another thread that I seem to remember that there was a setting "use new editor ON/OFF" in the mobile beta (it's nowhere to be seen in my 5.1 beta 1 Settings). Maybe this got synched up and interferes with your desktop app?
Have joy in the Lord!
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The preference for using the new editor should be local to the device and not shared. I'm attempting to narrow down scenarios wherein the new editor may not be turned on. Currently, there is a potential issue for brand new users. Did you create a new user account (either a new Logos login or local computer user) in order to test the beta?
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Grayson said:
Did you create a new user account (either a new Logos login or local computer user) in order to test the beta?
I am using my standard Logos account
Grayson said:I'm attempting to narrow down scenarios wherein the new editor may not be turned on.
Is there any way of me identifying whether the new editor is turned on? In what way does it look different?
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Graham Criddle said:
Is there any way of me identifying whether the new editor is turned on? In what way does it look different?
The lack of hyperlinks when pasting into a note will tell you! See my thread on Notes Rendering.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
The lack of hyperlinks when pasting into a note will tell you! See my thread on Notes Rendering.
Thanks Dave[:)]
When I paste into a note the expected hyperlink is created so I guess I'm short of the new editor.
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Using the same account, no difference in the Notes editor.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Thank you for your responses. We are looking into these issues. May I also trouble anyone with problems to share their logs as well?
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Grayson said:
May I also trouble anyone with problems to share their logs as well?
Hope this is useful.
I opened Logos, opened a notesfile created since I installed the beta, created a new note and typed some text into it and then closed Logos
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Hi Grayson
Any further thoughts on why some people are not getting access to the new editor?
Thanks, Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
Any further thoughts on why some people are not getting access to the new editor?
We have made some modifications that may enable the new editor for certain users. We are still looking for any potential scenarios in which users would not have the editor turned on automatically. Please let me know if it hasn't turned on for you in the next beta.
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Grayson said:
We are still looking for any potential scenarios in which users would not have the editor turned on automatically. Please let me know if it hasn't turned on for you in the next beta.
I have just updated to 5.1B2 and - as far as I can see - I am still using the old editor.
Anything I should look for to confirm this?
Graham
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It's certainly NOT working for me yet!
Bob Deacon
Ipad Air 2 (ios 9.7 (0014)
Windows 11 inside edition
Samsung S23
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Graham Criddle said:
Anything I should look for to confirm this?
Copy text from a resource into a note. The new editor concatenates citations whilst the old editor spaces them and hyperlinks them.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
Copy text from a resource into a note. The new editor concatenates citations whilst the old editor spaces them and hyperlinks them.
Thanks Dave
Not quite sure what you mean by "concatenate" here but, from the screenshot below, I assume I am still using the old editor?
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
Not quite sure what you mean by "concatenate"
Linked together as:
3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 This title was written on her forehead:The Holy Bible: New International Version—Anglicised. (1984). (electronic edition., Re 17:3–5). London: Hodder & Stoughton.
So you have the old editor!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
So you have the old editor!
I have the new editor, and see that it is a huge step backward [:'(] NO links
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Dave Hooton said:
Linked together as:
3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 This title was written on her forehead:The Holy Bible: New International Version—Anglicised. (1984). (electronic edition., Re 17:3–5). London: Hodder & Stoughton.
So you have the old editor!
Got it - thanks.
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Hi Logos
Any thoughts on why I am not getting access to the new editor?
Graham
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It appears that I have the new editor… I haven't checked on this in a while. I see that the editor concatenated [:)] the citation. Is it supposed to do that Dave, or is that a tell tale sign (bug)?
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alabama24 said:
Is it supposed to do that Dave, or is that a tell tale sign (bug)?
It's a bug, Alabama
Dave
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Thanks Dave. I think. [:D]
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Graham Criddle said:
Hi Logos
Any thoughts on why I am not getting access to the new editor?
Graham
I believe that we have identified the issue that would cause the new editor to not be available. The next beta should enable it for you.
alabama24 said:It appears that I have the new editor… I haven't checked on this in a while. I see that the editor concatenated
the citation. Is it supposed to do that Dave, or is that a tell tale sign (bug)?We have created a case for this issue. Thank you.
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Grayson said:
I believe that we have identified the issue that would cause the new editor to not be available. The next beta should enable it for you.
Thanks Grayson
I look forward to it
Graham
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