Requesting user feedback: Send to Kindle feature

Yes, I would be very interested in a "Send to Kindle" feature for Logos resources.  There are lots of Logos resources now that I wish to read cover to cover.  Kindle would be a very nice way to do this.

I do not think I would use this feature...which would only benefit those with eInk kindles.

I totally disagree, Jacob.  I read on my iPad, but the Kindle app is a much, much better reading experience for extensive reading than the Logos app.  Of course, the Logos app is better for using multiple Logos resources, word study, search, etc.  But I would use the "go to Kindle" on my iPad.

Of course, there are many, many eink kindles out there too.

I read on my iPad, but the Kindle app is a much, much better reading experience for extensive reading than the Logos app.

What makes it better? Is it just speed?

I totally disagree, Jacob.  I read on my iPad, but the Kindle app is a much, much better reading experience for extensive reading than the Logos app.  

I wouldn't anticipate that it would send to kindle ipad app, but rather to iPad eInk display. 

What makes the Kindle app a better reading experience? I read almost exclusively on my iPad and find the Logos app a better reading experience particularly for being able to click on verse links, better highlighting, and notes that sync. 

This is a totally awesome idea!!!!!  Yes Please!!!!![Y]

Yes

Absolutely.  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would definitely use.

I totally disagree, Jacob.  I read on my iPad, but the Kindle app is a much, much better reading experience for extensive reading than the Logos app.  

I wouldn't anticipate that it would send to kindle ipad app, but rather to iPad eInk display. 

What makes the Kindle app a better reading experience? I read almost exclusively on my iPad and find the Logos app a better reading experience particularly for being able to click on verse links, better highlighting, and notes that sync. 

Exactly! Logos gives much better reading experience for any book that uses Bible references and also footnotes. Plus of course syncing is also a great advantage. 

Is there anywhere I can find more detailed instructions about this 4 step process?

There's a plugin to download first. See http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/calibre-plugins-the-simplest-option-for-removing-most-ebook-drm/

You also need to have the Kindle Reader installed on your PC.

Thanks Mark!

I got the plug in, and followed the installation instructions here: http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/calibre-plugins-the-simplest-option-for-removing-most-ebook-drm/ but for some reason I'm getting the exact same results. Is there a page on this for dummies that will go over every detail?

Thanks again!

Absolutely!!!  [Y][Y][Y]

Definitely!

I guess the device would run out of memory, drain the battery, and that it would be hard to browse the library on it:

Add a bulk send all 'Logos' books to kindle'

Wow, I agree with you!

The kindle has 2GB of storage, which only 1.5 is available for resources. The battery isn't probably an issue, but too few libraries would be able to take advantage of a "send all to kindle" to be worthwhile (IMO). 

I'm glad I can bring some unity to the forum. [;)].

You you can't win 'em all. I guess your luck ran out after football season. [:)]

You you can't win 'em all. I guess your luck ran out after football season.

Yes you're right...But thankful football season isn't over yet.

ChelseaFC

It's pretty clear that I'm in the minority here, but I'm not sure that I would use this feature. I have a Kindle reader (2nd gen, e-ink). I no longer use it at all. I do all my e-reading on my iPad (4th gen, retina) in either Logos or the iOS Kindle app. If it's already in Logos, I'd continue reading in Logos, if only for the ability to highlight and annotate. I suppose if somehow this made available a large chunk of my library that's not available on Logos mobile, I might consider it. But I don't see how that would be likely.

I know the e-ink is a bit easier on the eyes, but not so much (for me) as to warrant carrying two devices or not being able to highlight / annotate.

My $.02 ...

Donnie

Yes please!

I am interested 1000 % on this feature. 

I got the plug in, and followed the installation instructions here: http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/calibre-plugins-the-simplest-option-for-removing-most-ebook-drm/ but for some reason I'm getting the exact same results. Is there a page on this for dummies that will go over every detail?

You have to re-import all your Kindle books after installing the plugin.

You have to re-import all your Kindle books after installing the plugin.

Hey Mark,

I did this, but it still didn't work. I could not find the files for the kindle books (from the kindle for mac app), so I had to copy them from my kindle fire to the desktop (connected with a usb), and then had to add the files on my desktop from the add books option. I'm not sure if this changes my situation or not. I have no idea where the individual book files would be storred. I searched my computer and came up with nothing even though my kindle for mac app has about 50 resources downloaded. 

Thanks again-

Liam - if you are using one of the newer versions of OSX, you will need to unhide your user library. I'm not able to post more about this now, but a google search should be productive. Then do a search for "where are my kindle books stored on my Mac."

I did this, but it still didn't work.

I don't have a Mac, but many of these tutorials have Mac screenshots/instructions. Hopefully one will help: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=remove+drm+from+kindle 

This one might be the best? http://www.cultofmac.com/173945/how-to-read-kindle-books-in-ibooks-and-keep-your-library-in-the-cloud-how-to/

Thanks a ton guys, I figured it out with your help!

Use Word to convert from .html to .docx

Ok... I got it except for this step... Does anyone have any pointers? I have Word 2008 for Mac.

You will need 2011... Or you can use another program such as libre office. 

By "convert," Mark just means to use the "save as" feature. 

Sorry to all the kindle users out there, but I have no interest in this. I like my iPad. I don't, and probably won't have a kindle.

I would much rather see iOS and Windows feature parity :P

Sorry to all the kindle users out there, but I have no interest in this. I like my iPad. I don't, and probably won't have a kindle.

There's a Kindle app for iPad. I use the Kindle app on my iPod Touch.

i like to see it soon.

I would be very interested in this feature. I oftentimes manually export Logos books (mainly the type you actually read through rather than just reference) to Kindle and it is a lot of work.

I don't mind at all if this feature wouldn't be able to send notes or highlights.

And... it's important that it footnotes.

And... it's important that it footnotes.

Yes, if there's a send to Kindle option it needs to support images and footnotes.

There's a Kindle app for iPad. I use the Kindle app on my iPod Touch.

But it's pointless reading Logos books on Kindle for iPad when you could use the Logos app.

But it's pointless reading Logos books on Kindle for iPad when you could use the Logos app.

Personally, I would much rather use the Logos mobile app… but using the Kindle app isn't pointless for some readers… One reason is that some readers prefer the typeface choices (which is a frequent complaint among a strong minority of users). Others might prefer the "dimmer" settings found in the Kindle app.

Please!!! I would love this feature!

But it's pointless reading Logos books on Kindle for iPad when you could use the Logos app.

Personally, I would much rather use the Logos mobile app… but using the Kindle app isn't pointless for some readers… One reason is that some readers prefer the typeface choices (which is a frequent complaint among a strong minority of users). Others might prefer the "dimmer" settings found in the Kindle app.

Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.

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Ja! Ja! Das ist gut!

I would be interested in a send to Kindle, even if notes etc can't be used.

I don't care at all if notes, highlights, or anything else can be imported. Most of the monograph-type books I have in Logos are not useful to me at all, but I would like to read many of them. I would if I had them exported to my Kindle.

I would also buy more books from Logos. I have passed up many or bought them from Amazon so I could read them on the Kindle. I would much rather Logos get my money.

Jerry

I would much rather Logos get my money.

I would much rather Logos get my money.

If I'm Logos CEO, this would be music to my ears, and enough reason to go ahead and implement this feature immediately. I'm sure you're not the only person with this sentiment.

Me, too!  [Y]

Development is considering implementing a 'Send to Kindle' feature for resources in your Logos library.  

Before investing a significant amount of time on this item, we would like to assess user interest based on the fact that this feature would not support sending notes/highlights to or receiving notes/highlights from Kindle devices/apps (which is mentioned in the UserVoice request for this item).

Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.

I am getting into this discussion a bit late, but do have some thoughts.  I hope that some of this can generate some discussion of the possibilities for LOGOS as it develops the tool suggested by Tonya last Friday.

I like the idea - with a few questions:

1. Can we send over 100 pages using the proposed method?
2. Kindle has a built in maximum size of a personal document that can be sent to the Kindle.  Perhaps if the conversion could be to a Mobi document that could be loaded from a PC (rather than sent to a Kindle), it would be possible to get around this limitation.
3. Using the normal "send to Kindle" procedure, the document cannot be sent to a Kindle app - only to a Kindle device.  Again, this can be worked around by actually creating a Mobi document and then sideloading it from the PC.
4. There already exists a "Send to Kindle" printer provided by Amazon - at least for the PC.  I do not know if this is also available for the Mac, though I would guess it is.  I just sent a 94 page document (nearly the max, unless a larger document is allowed using the LOGOS tool) without errors.  The "Send to Kindle" printer also allows highlighting to be "printed", I do not know about notes.
5. The "Send to Kindle" printer converts LOGOS print file to a PDF and the PDF is sent to the chosen Kindle e-reader (again, you cannot send to an app using this procedure).  Note, other file formats are sent AS-IS - where AMAZON has tools on its end to convert to a more standard Mobi or Kindle format.

What might be more useful and marketable as a separate product, as well, is a "Print to Mobi" or "Print to ePub" printer (as someone noted, the conversion between the two is relatively simple with Calibre).  The resulting Mobi file could be then sent to the Kindle, using the normal tools used to mail a document to one's Kindle or it could be sideloaded in a Kindle.  

The advantage of ePub is that there are tools that can read an ePub file for the Kindle (at least on the Kindle Fire), but I know of no tools that can be used on a Nook to read a Kindle book. 

Most of this comes from my experience - not from any insider information.  As a book reviewer, I get books in a variety of formats and have worked to find methods and workarounds that allow me to send a great many files to one or more of my Kindles (a Kindle Fire and an original Kindle) for reading - either as text or to be read aloud as I drive.

I have done the export to MS Word, convert to Kindle via Calibre for a few shorter books that I would want to read on holiday and will never read on PC in Logos. A direct conversion would be great.

Absolutely! This would be one of the best technological advancements Logos could make next. Even if highlighting and other features will not work this way, the Kindle's E-Ink and long battery life would make Logos book reading much easier. Thank you for looking into this!

So interested I might not sleep! Please do!

Yes, please!

Very, Very interested!

Yes.  Would give me a real incentive to switch from buying ebooks from Kindle to Logos depending on price.

I would really value this feature, and would definitely increase my already bloated Logos spend.