Stuck “offline” after 5.0b SR4 update ………

Milford Charles Murray
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edited November 2024 in English Forum

Stuck “offline” after 5.0b SR4 update ………

 

Am back from my coffee And  Am starting a new thread so we can focus in on a solution, please, to my problem…

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 5:42 AM

Peace to you this Beautiful Morning!             *smile*

                 I updated my Logos 5 this morning to 5.0b Service Release 4 (5.0.2.0755) successfully.

However, for some strange reason I had to start my Logos offline.              Which I did  ...    successfully.

Now, however (and I'm somewhat embarrassed as a long-term Logos Bible Software User!   *smile*  )        .....   I don't know how to get back "online"!

 

My "sync" is not spinning, and I get this message when I try to update ....   (I know there are no updates for me, but I'd like to reset my Logos 5, please!)      I do not want to work offline   .... please!                 *smile*


 

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 5:46 AM

Milford Charles Murray:

I don't know how to get back "online"!

Restart the program. If it won't go online automatically, then there is some issue that needs to be addressed.

Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 5:56 AM

Thank you, Good Brother!           Have already restarted about 1/2 dozen times .......

                      will do two more ................

just did two more     .............

still offline   ..........

am going to shut down my computer and restart and will be back to this thread in 10 minutes    .....    perhaps to see if I should start a new thread ...

                perhaps to share that everything is now A.O.K.                       We'll see ....                  *smile*

Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 6:06 AM

Should I start a new thread?              Just restarted my computer .............          I'm still "offline"      and am clueless?!?

                          Think I'll go and have my second cup of coffee and then come back to see if anyone has any good ideas ....

Blessings for the day, eh???!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Milford,

    Have you got a log we can look at? I saw another post this morning that indicated there might be server side issues.  

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Last post from Alabama and reply ...

    alabama24 said:

    Think I'll go and have my second cup of coffee and then come back to see if anyone has any good ideas ....

    Coffee is always a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't know if I have any good ideas for you. Tongue Tied

    Some clarification would be good: When you restart the app, is the sign in box appearing? If not, try getting the sign in box to appear (press and hold control immediately upon startup). 

    Peace, Justin!            Have just started a new thread and will take all of this over there right away.

    I CAN get the sign-in box, but it always takes me to an offline situation.             There's no provision in the sign-in box for online usage....

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Here is my sign-in box ....

                   Any ideas anyone  ....     on how to get "online" again???

     

    *smile*

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    Hmm, strange. I had the same thing happen to me on my last update on the beta channel. After updating, Logos started up with the sign-in dialog and I was unable to sign in, though it did start fine offline. Closed app and reopened. Same thing.

    After that, I rebooted Windows, and then everything worked fine. Wonder if this is an installer issue? Can you try a shutdown of Windows (not restart). After shutdown, then start it back up and see if you can login. 

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace, Randy!               Thanks for your post!                  I've already shut down windows ............        However,         it wouldn't hurt to do it again ...    which I will !

     

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Which I did!                            and  -- unfortunately!!! -- still working offline  .....

                                                                        actually I'd love to have this done and over ....

    oh!           the vagaries of life, eh???!!!

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    I hesitate to ask... You did type in your password, right?

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    I have Windows 8 Pro   .................               Just went over to the control panel and did a "repair" of Logos 5, figuring that it couldn't hurt, eh??!!

                                        ...the I did a "repair" of the Logos 5 prerequisites, figuring that it couldn't hurt ....

                     am STILL offline

    Now I'm going to reboot my computer one more time ...

                                  perhaps I should move over to the windows beta???               my concern is if I change anything, make a note  or whatever  ...  my changes are NOT being backed up to the cloud ....          

                                        I have NO sync signal at all ......

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

    TCBlack said:

    Milford,

    Have you got a log we can look at?

    Logs will help us diagnose this situation; please upload them.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Thank you!    *smile*             Will do a little work ...               then upload my log....            your help is much appreciated!

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

    I CAN get the sign-in box, but it always takes me to an offline situation.             There's no provision in the sign-in box for online usage....

    Clicking the "Sign In" button in the sign in dialog will start you working online.

    Don't click the "Work Offline" button or you'll be "stuck" offline.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

    Please hold down Ctrl when starting the application, so that the Sign In dialog appears. When it does, check that your email address is correct, enter your password if necessary, and click the Sign In button.

    If that still doesn't work, please upload another log file.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Please hold down Ctrl when starting the application, so that the Sign In dialog appears. When it does, check that your email address is correct, enter your password if necessary, and click the Sign In button.

    If that still doesn't work, please upload another log file.

    In a situation like this, do you want Milford to do anything other than sign in? I assume he should exit the app before grabbing the logs?

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  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

    alabama24 said:

    In a situation like this, do you want Milford to do anything other than sign in? I assume he should exit the app before grabbing the logs?

    No, I really just want to see the logs from the Sign In process. And if there is a LogosError.log file, that would be very helpful to see, too.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    And if there is a LogosError.log file, that would be very helpful to see, too.

    The Mac utility tool that was developed to enable logging and package log files is very helpful… Is there a reason there isn't one for PC? (Yes, I can look out for PC users too. [:)])

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Bradley!            *smile*                 Thanks for taking a look at this!

                        However, it will NOT allow me to connect to internet  ...            when I "hit" sign-in .....

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Have to leave my study for a couple of hours  ...    looking forward to being in touch later on ...

    *smile*

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

                        However, it will NOT allow me to connect to internet  ...            when I "hit" sign-in .....

    The logs will tell us why it can't connect.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    I was "unable" to connect ....                  so ..............         I'm sending my logs again .......     *smile*

    2313.Logos (2).zip

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    will be back again in about two hours      ..................          *smile*

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Milford - If you get a chance, you might want to see if you have this file too:

    if there is a LogosError.log file, that would be very helpful to see, too.

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Here she comes  !!!         *smile*

    5518.LogosError.log

     

    edit:   oppsss!   *smile*       My apologies!     Just now I considered "zipping" the file ....                Do you need it "zipped" or is this perhaps somewhat acceptable (what I sent!)   ..........

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    am back!                *smile*                     Anybody have any ideas, please!  I do not want to stay "offline"!

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Milford, Shot in the dark here: Any chance that the internet is somehow turned off in settings?

    Tools >Settings> use internet

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    TCBlack said:

    Milford, Shot in the dark here: Any chance that the internet is somehow turned off in settings?

    Tools >Settings> use internet

    Thank you, Thomas!             I appreciate your attempt!          *smile*            However ....       that's not it ...    *smile*

     

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

    The error in your log is:

    System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An attempt was made to access a socket in a way forbidden by its access permissions 216.57.195.46:443

    This is preventing Logos 5 from signing in.

    Unfortunately, this isn't an error I've ever seen before. Based on my research, it seems most likely to be caused by a personal firewall or a web proxy.

    Do you have a firewall/AV program running? If you disable it, are you able to sign into Logos 5?

    Are you on a network that uses a proxy to access the Internet? If so, check your proxy settings in the Logos 5 Sign In dialog, and talk to your network administrator about whether there have been recent configuration changes that would block access to logos.com.

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Hi Bradley!              *smile*         I'm just a simple retired old pastor and do NOT do any super high-tech stuff...

                 The only firewall I have is Norton 360  ...                    I'm not on a network         ..............            I wouldn't have a clue HOW to use a proxy...

            *smile*     

                      I WILL try to turn off Norton 360, and start Logos 5 that way ...     

                                                                                                                                        will tell you what happened soonest  .....

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace, Bradley!           My mind is blown!      *smile*

             1. After my last post, I opened Norton 360 -- there was a big warning that my firewall had been turned off ....   click here to fix it ....

              2.  So ....      I clicked to turn on firewall ...........           This has never, ever happened before ....    Very weird and strange, eh???

                                          My firewall WAS disabled!!!                 I re-enabled it; and now success!

               3.             So ...                 Decided to try Logos 5 before I fooled around with Norton 360 ....

                4.  Logos 5 started perfectly                ---              online!                 Yes!!!!        spent a little time synchronising ....          

                                  Am now back to normal.

    5. Thanks Bradley for your part in getting me going again!                Am very pleased....

     

               I guess you might not be able to tell me -- or not!  -- if I did something "unwise" to get into this situation in the first place  ... ..      ?????

     

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    I guess you might not be able to tell me -- or not!  -- if I did something "unwise" to get into this situation in the first place  ... ..      ?????

    Given the nature of the issue, I'm fairly certain that staring Logos offline was a mere "coincidence" to the Norton 360 problem. 

    From time to time I've seen different security suites throw odd errors. I wouldn't be overly concerned unless it happens again. 

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, Thomas!               Certainly there are a few imponderables floating around here....        Is there a connection -- at all between my problem and my Norton 360   ???                        If this ever comes up again for someone else, at least we'll have a few ideas ...

                  Am so happy to have my fully-functioning Logos 5 back, that I'm not unduly concerned...

    I am grateful to Bradley -- and to you -- and to Justin for your helps and your attempts at helps!                Psalms 29:11

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    BTW ....            I just remembered .........         I enabled "logging"                     ............              I guess logging is still enabled ...........               Does that matter    ???

    Can I just leave it alone ...........  ??          OR???       should I figure out how to disable logging and then do it??          *smile*

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,144

             1. After my last post, I opened Norton 360 -- there was a big warning that my firewall had been turned off ....   click here to fix it ....

              2.  So ....      I clicked to turn on firewall ...........           This has never, ever happened before ....    Very weird and strange, eh???

                                          My firewall WAS disabled!!!                 I re-enabled it; and now success!

    It seems very strange for a firewall to just "turn itself off". I'm not trying to be alarmist, but it would probably be worthwhile to make sure your virus definitions are up-to-date, that your virus scanner also hasn't been turned off, then run a full system scan to make sure no malicious software is running in the background.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    BTW ....            I just remembered .........         I enabled "logging"                     ............              I guess logging is still enabled ...........               Does that matter    ???

    Can I just leave it alone ...........  ??          OR???       should I figure out how to disable logging and then do it??          *smile*

    I leave logging running all the time. It causes no discernible slow-down, and the logs are ready if I ever need them.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Thank you, Thomas!         *smile*             Will do!  

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

             1. After my last post, I opened Norton 360 -- there was a big warning that my firewall had been turned off ....   click here to fix it ....

              2.  So ....      I clicked to turn on firewall ...........           This has never, ever happened before ....    Very weird and strange, eh???

                                          My firewall WAS disabled!!!                 I re-enabled it; and now success!

    It seems very strange for a firewall to just "turn itself off". I'm not trying to be alarmist, but it would probably be worthwhile to make sure your virus definitions are up-to-date, that your virus scanner also hasn't been turned off, then run a full system scan to make sure no malicious software is running in the background.

             1. After my last post, I opened Norton 360 -- there was a big warning that my firewall had been turned off ....   click here to fix it ....

              2.  So ....      I clicked to turn on firewall ...........           This has never, ever happened before ....    Very weird and strange, eh???

                                          My firewall WAS disabled!!!                 I re-enabled it; and now success!

    It seems very strange for a firewall to just "turn itself off". I'm not trying to be alarmist, but it would probably be worthwhile to make sure your virus definitions are up-to-date, that your virus scanner also hasn't been turned off, then run a full system scan to make sure no malicious software is running in the background.

    Thank you, Bradley!           *smile*              Will do!                  Early tomorrow morning!

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace, Bradley!                            I can't even imagine how busy you are in your position at Logos!                  Tremendously so, I'm sure!

    So Thank You Very Much Indeed for your personal help yesterday.              It is so very much appreciated.                  A strange case indeed, and I've just completely reviewed and checked out my firewall and antivirus settings.             Basically I'm happy with Norton 360, and I regard yesterday's incident as a "quirk"!

                          I DO love my Logos Bible Software, Bradley!     *smile*

             1. After my last post, I opened Norton 360 -- there was a big warning that my firewall had been turned off ....   click here to fix it ....

              2.  So ....      I clicked to turn on firewall ...........           This has never, ever happened before ....    Very weird and strange, eh???

                                          My firewall WAS disabled!!!                 I re-enabled it; and now success!

    It seems very strange for a firewall to just "turn itself off". I'm not trying to be alarmist, but it would probably be worthwhile to make sure your virus definitions are up-to-date, that your virus scanner also hasn't been turned off, then run a full system scan to make sure no malicious software is running in the background.

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • T.P. Johnston
    T.P. Johnston Member Posts: 143 ✭✭

    Fascinating. Thanks for the suggestion. I have Norton. I opened it. No messages, everything normal. Closed it. Clicked Sign in on the Logos sign in screen, and it took off. Strange.

  • Xegesis
    Xegesis Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    So does that mean if Logos' has a major outage and their servers go down we can't access our resources that are already downloaded on our computer unless we log in?  It seems there should be a work around.  I'm sure Logos' has a disaster back up plan, but you never know what can happen and I would hate to not be able to read the material I purchased.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Xegesis said:

    So does that mean if Logos' has a major outage and their servers go down we can't access our resources that are already downloaded on our computer unless we log in?

    You can work offline just fine. 

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Peace to all!                 Yes, I could work offline perfectly well!                     Indeed!                          However, I did want -- at least eventually -- the cloud backup to all of my work!        

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Fascinating. Thanks for the suggestion. I have Norton. I opened it. No messages, everything normal. Closed it. Clicked Sign in on the Logos sign in screen, and it took off. Strange.

    Thanks for posting!                  Strange, eh???      When you say "it took off"  ...    that means "full Logos" -- synchronization and all, right??

    Bradley and/or others at Logos need to make a note of this, methinks!              *smile*

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • T.P. Johnston
    T.P. Johnston Member Posts: 143 ✭✭

    Yes, when I say "it took off" that means everything now works normally.