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what i really need is paragraph divisions of the entire Bible
That would be a problem… because the Bible wasn't written in paragraphs. Any sort of paragraph break scheme you will find will be translation dependent, because the translators add paragraphs in to assist modern readers in their native language. If you start comparing translations, you will find differences between them. If you are really wanting a pre made list, your best bet is pericopes, since there are lists of those. To be honest, that would be a more natural way of breaking it down anyways (imo).
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Well Alabama with sunglasses, Tell us where ever you got the notion that the Tanach (the Hebrew Bible) has no paragraph divisions. Do you know Hebrew? Then you know that printed copies have minor paragraph seperations AND even major paragraph divisions--something that English books don't even use. (Electronic Hebrew Bibles have a sameq or a peh at the ends of the verse/paragraph.) Can you image reading ANY major piece of literature without paragraph marks? That would be preposterous. So why would the precious Word of God do something so ridiculous and be left open to personal interpretation? The English translators have taken their liberties and added crap (yes, crap) here and there and adjusted the paragraph divisions. (They will have their day in court.) But the hebrew Scriptures have divisions. Tons of them. And on top of that, every VERSE of the Hebrew Bible has an athnak, just to show you the middle of the verse. And then there are division marks (punctuation) down to the every single Hebrew word!!
Hi Troy - welcome to the forums. You have successfully resurrected a very old thread. I suggest that you check your facts with the Hebrew manuscript browser. If, you do not have access to that tool sites such as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Codex_Leningradensis show the manuscripts themselves. The Dead Sea Scrolls would have earlier evidence. Do you have information that contradicts this?
I just did a bit of research as I don't read Hebrew. It appears that the accents to which you refer were added by the Masoretes. Is that correct?
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The only thing that your wiki link does is confirm my facts; thank you. If you could read, it shows that the Hebrew Bible has paragraph marks. Obviously you don't read Hebrew or you wouldn't have jumped into this with your link (that only supports my point).
Speaking of the masoretes, if you look at a copy of The Great Isaiah scroll (part of the Dead Sea scrolls) you will see that it has paragraph marks (as do all of the pictures of the Hebrew texts in your wiki link). However, you wiki link is to the oldest complete copy of the Tanach, which happened to be found in Leningrad (and printed in 1008 AD). But the Isaiah Scroll is ONE thousand years older than it. And boo hoo for the liberals and the sceptics, nothing was different. The text was unchanged (except for tiny, insignificant things). The masoretes appeared six hundred years after the Dead Sea scrolls. Therefore, the paragraph marks were there BEFORE the masoretes.
Also, there are traditions--that I believe--that God, at Sinai, gave the text with the consonants, with the vowels and with all the punctuation that we have today. The masoretes only codied (or documented) what had already existed for centuries. They didn't add anything.
Hi Steve:
Here's an Excel file I fiddled with a few years ago for a project. Maybe it will help you.
[EDIT: file is being corrected; see later post below]
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Hi Steve:
Here's an Excel file I fiddled with a few years ago for a project. Maybe it will help you.
That's awesome, Robert! Thank you for sharing it. You might want to cross-post it on the Files forum too (which is commonly used for sharing files, PBs and such), because I'm guessing there will be others who aren't following this thread who find it useful. That must have been a lot of work, and it will save others a great deal of time. I might use it myself as I've been wanting to work through making my own outline summary of the Bible as a way to ingrain its structure more in my mind.
Hi Steve:
Here's an Excel file I fiddled with a few years ago for a project. Maybe it will help you.
That's awesome, Robert! Thank you for sharing it. You might want to cross-post it on the Files forum too (which is commonly used for sharing files, PBs and such), because I'm guessing there will be others who aren't following this thread who find it useful. That must have been a lot of work, and it will save others a great deal of time. I might use it myself as I've been wanting to work through making my own outline summary of the Bible as a way to ingrain its structure more in my mind.
I would like to say thanks too. This would be great as a personal book. What is involved to make an xls file into a docx file?
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What is involved to make an xls file into a docx file?
Open the xls file.
Select All (Ctrl+A or Cmd+A on Mac)
Copy
Create a new Word document
Paste
Save the docx file.
Voila! You're done.
Here's an Excel file I fiddled with a few years ago
Apparently I didn't fiddle with it enough. In the process of testing a PB of it, I discovered some errors and omissions. The original file was generated from an Excel web-query, then sliced and diced. Sometimes these automated processes can run away a bit.
I have fixed those, but subsequently discovered that some of the abbreviations don't create the auto link in Logos. This is baffling, since "GEN", "PS", "JOB", for example, aren't recognized, even though I thought those are all legitimate abbreviations. Most of the abbreviations are recognized, so I don't think the all-caps are the reason.
The corrected Excel file is attached here and I edited out the earlier attachment.
When I get the PB issue worked out, I'll post the .docx file here and then post them both in the Files section.
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When I get the PB issue worked out, I'll post the .docx file here and then post them both in the Files section.
Thanks Robert!
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I have made a few more corrections to the Excel file (too late to delete earlier version) and have created a .docx with milestones & headings.
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Hi Steve
Are you looking for this for any particular version?
There was a discussion of this some years ago at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/23539.aspx including a suggested resource providing a "generic" outline
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Thanks graham, that's a helpful article ...
i'm not looking for any particular Bible version .. any would do, multiple ones would be even better but not essential ... just having one would be enought for me (NKJ or ESV or any )
it's not the pericope title i'm after .. but just the actual paragraph division. I could do it all by hand, just takes a bit of time
any other options to get them would be appreciated
Getting this information out of an automated search would be difficult, if the digital copy of the Bible you have does not distinguish between paragraph breaks and other line breaks (e.g. breaks between lines of poetry).
Out of curiosity ... why would you want it?
i just want all the paragraphs laid out on a word doc or spreadsheet .... and then i'd write a few words to describe that paragraph. So need it for personal study.