Anglican Wish List

Beside the liturgical books in the other thread, I'd also like to suggest the following:

Henry Bettenson and Chris Maunder (eds): Documents of the Christian Church (OUP) (latest edition!). Perhaps also

Henry Bettenson: The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius..., and The Later Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Cyril of Jerusalem to St. Leo..., though they may not contain anything we don't already have.

J. N. D. Kelly: Early Christian Doctrines (HarperOne)
Philip Jenkins: The Lost History of Christianity: The Thousand-year Golden Age of the Church in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia - and How It Died (HarperOne)
Mascall, E L: especially Christ, the Christian and the Church; A Study of the Incarnation and its Consequences (Longmans), but others are interesting as well. (Anglo-Catholic Thomist with Orthodox interests)
Thornton, LS: The Common Life in the Body of Christ (Dacre) (another Anglo-Catholic)
David F Ford (ed): The Modern Theologians: An Introduction to Christian Theology Since 1918 (The Great Theologians) (Blackwell)

I believe this book is used in many colleges.
I'm in two minds about the edition. When I compare the TOC of the latest with my 1st edition vol. 1, I find lots of added chapters, including one on de Lubac, but I also find he's removed the specific chapters on Congar, Schillebeeckx, Küng and Lonergan. I presume they've been worked into more generally named chapters, but still... The separate chapters on separate theologians was what made me buy the book in the first place.
Since I bought it, it seems to have been included in a series, so I guess we should have the other volumes as well:

Clements, Keith W: Lovers of Discord: Twentieth-century Theological Controversies in England (SPCK)
There's also a Martin Thornton, who's written on pastoral and spiritual subjects, but I've never quite found the time to check out the books that I have. I've had him recommended, though. (EDIT: I just realized Eugene Peterson includes no less than three Thornton's in his Take and Read: Spiritual Reading: An Annotated List. He calls him "the sanest pastoral theologian of the century". I guess I should read him some day...)

I believe all of these authors/editors are Anglican, except perhaps for some of the Great Theologians editors, and Keith Clements, who's supposed to be Baptist, but whose subject is Anglican enough.

It would also be nice if we could get some decent non-Evangelical fiction on Vyrso. The Anglicans I can think of right now are:

TS Eliot: The Murder in the Cathedral
Dorothy Sayers: The Man Born to be King
Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter): the Brother Cadfael series
I also happened to come across Episcopal Clergy as Amateur Sleuths, which might include something worthwhile.

Also, more generally: since you're working on Anglican resources, you'll have to work with British publishers. Please try to get SCM, DLT and Blackwell on board. The first two shouldn't be too hard: it seems that they -- as well as Canterbury Press -- are related to Westminster John Knox, which Logos already works with. (And it also seems like DLT holds the rights to the much asked for Jerusalem and New Jerusalem Bibles...)

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fgh

Oh yes, Peter Vardy is Anglican as well. Let's have

I've only actually read the first, and that in an older edition, plus listened to him quite a bit. I can't say I agree with him all the time, but he's good at introducing complicated philosophical questions in a simple and fun way, and good at making you think.

HJ. van der Wal

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Especially J.N.D. Kelly.

Beside the liturgical books in the other thread, I'd also like to suggest the following:
It would also be nice if we could get some decent non-Evangelical fiction on Vyrso. The Anglicans I can think of right now are:

TS Eliot: The Murder in the Cathedral

Dorothy Sayers: The Man Born to be King

Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter): the Brother Cadfael series

I also happened to come across Episcopal Clergy as Amateur Sleuths, which might include something worthwhile.

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I would like to see more detective fiction in Vyrso.

George Somsel

TS Eliot: The Murder in the Cathedral

Also The Cocktail Party and The Waste Land

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/495869#Comment_495869

Also, Susan Howatch has a series of novels about the Church of England that is said to be good.

And there are well-known books by people like Richard Swinburne, Keith Ward and Alister McGrath that ought to be available. The first seems to have converted to Orthodoxy, but most of his works must have been written while he was still Anglican.

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/495885#Comment_495885

There's a novel that I remember reading years ago though I'm not positive that this was it. What I read was rather interesting.

http://www.amazon.com/Sarum-Novel-England-Edward-Rutherfurd/dp/0449000729/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370727457&sr=1-1&keywords=sarum#_

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/495869#Comment_495869

Btw, there was another Dorothy Sayers suggested here some days ago.

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

fgh, thank you very much for your suggestions. This is EXACTLY the type of information I need. I will keep you posted on what I find out.

Ken McGuire

Henry Bettenson and Chris Maunder (eds): Documents of the Christian Church (OUP) (latest edition!). Perhaps also

Henry Bettenson: The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius..., and The Later Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Cyril of Jerusalem to St. Leo..., though they may not contain anything we don't already have.

J. N. D. Kelly: Early Christian Doctrines (HarperOne)

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And the book I am currently working through - RPC Hanson - The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God.

In a similar vein, Rowan Williams - Arius, Heresy and Tradition

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496247#Comment_496247

Thanks everyone for the fiction suggestions. They all look wonderful. I will look into getting them in either Logos or Vyrso.

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496251#Comment_496251

In a similar vein, Rowan Williams - Arius, Heresy and Tradition

Thanks for the suggestion. [:D] I'm working on getting all of +Rowan's published works.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496251#Comment_496251

New Interpreter's Bible (12 vols.) while not strictly anglican does cover most every lection you will encounter in the Anglican lectionaries (the only lection I can think of not covered would be 2 Esdras). And I do know many Anglican ministers who use it.

-Dan

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496247#Comment_496247

Thanks. As you probably noticed, my interests aren't all that Anglican. I'm just doing my best to find Anglican (Orthodox, Lutheran...) connections to the books I want, so that I can get them directly into the hands of a product manager.[:D]

Talking about Take and Read: Spiritual Reading: An Annotated List: Logos should buy one or two dozen copies of that book, put them into the hands of all the product managers, and tell them to start getting the rights to the books recommended in it. I don't think you sell even half of them. Then you should also publish the book itself and give it away for free. Take it on the marketing budget. It ought to pay for itself several times over in increased sales.

More suggestions:

Diogenes Allen: Philosophy for Understanding Theology, Second Edition (Westminster John Knox)
John Macquarrie
Desmond Tutu
The best modern church history of Britain, whatever that is.
Who were the Anglican observers at Vatican II? Did they write something still worth reading?
I believe Anglicans like to see themselves as ecumenical, so how about Some ecumenical books? I have to admit I find it a bit of a disgrace that Logos still doesn't have even the most important ecumenical documents. How about adding Ecumenical Product Manager to your title?[:D] Someone needs to take it on!
Which reminds me that SPCK has published A History of the Ecumenical Movement that might also be worth having.
Perhaps you and Gabe can cooperate on getting some of the publications from the Fellowship of St Alban & St Sergius?

(Btw, have you seen SPCK Alister McGrath Collection mis-title?)

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496479#Comment_496479

(Btw, have you seen SPCK Alister McGrath Collection mis-title?)

I hadn't seen that.[:S] Thank you for pointing me to it. The problem should be fixed.[H]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496479#Comment_496479

Some older 'Anglican' Suggestion threads I came upon while looking for other things:

Commentary suggestion: Conversations with Scripture (Anglican Association of Biblical Scholars Series)
A new collection: Dialogues with N.T. Wright (one of many N T Wright threads. You can search for the others yourself, if you haven't already.)

And here's the TOC for Bettenson's Documents of the Christian Church: SUGGESTION: very broad swath of Christian church documents - please look at the table of contents not who posted this [:-)]. It's pretty impressive!

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496479#Comment_496479

Talking about Take and Read: Spiritual Reading: An Annotated List: Logos should buy one or two dozen copies of that book, put them into the hands of all the product managers, and tell them to start getting the rights to the books recommended in it. I don't think you sell even half of them. Then you should also publish the book itself and give it away for free. Take it on the marketing budget. It ought to pay for itself several times over in increased sales.

Wonderful! [Y] [Y]

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496715#Comment_496715

Not Anglican, but in assigning product managers, Logos is now getting better feedback n what their customers want for the different faiths.

hoping to see more product managers come on board.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496720#Comment_496720

hoping to see more product managers come on board.

[Y] Especially hoping for a Jewish one. Any news on that?

fgh

There's also a Martin Thornton, who's written on pastoral and spiritual subjects, but I've never quite found the time to check out the books that I have. I've had him recommended, though. (EDIT: I just realized Eugene Peterson includes no less than three Thornton's in his Take and Read: Spiritual Reading: An Annotated List. He calls him "the sanest pastoral theologian of the century". I guess I should read him some day...)

Seems I never said: two of the ones I've got are SPCK, one is Hodder & Stoughton. Judging from the age of the books and the lists of the author's works inside, SPCK has probably taken oven the rights from Hodder & Stoughton at some point.

Another SPCK: Kathryn Spink: A Universal Heart: The Life and Vision of Brother Roger of Taize.

Dennis Hilario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496251#Comment_496251

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fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/498597#Comment_498597

A Thomas More collection for CP (yes, I know he's Catholic, but he was also 'Anglian', and he was executed by an Anglican -- and I haven't managed to get Andrew to produce him yet[:D]).

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521215#Comment_521215

Dix's The Shape of the Liturgy comes to mind.

Regarding Murder in the Cathedral, I have two absolutely lovely recordings. One by the BBC from I think the 1940s, as best as I can tell. The other by the Irish RTÉ - which, if possible, is even lovelier, and is from the 1950s I think. These were given to me by a friend and I'd gladly share them if anyone is interested.

Also, as long as we're talking Anglican/Catholic boundaries there's Waugh's excellent "novelized" biography of Campion; and as long as we're talking Murder in the Cathedral there's Frank Barlow's Thomas Becket.

~Butters [:)]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521231#Comment_521231

Dix's The Shape of the Liturgy comes to mind.

Have you missed Select Works of Dom Gregory Dix (9 vols.)? It's moving embarrassingly slowly, and needs far more bids!

EDIT: And higher bids! Look at how many pages this collection is!

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521239#Comment_521239

Dix's The Shape of the Liturgy comes to mind.

Have you missed Select Works of Dom Gregory Dix (9 vols.)? It's moving embarrassingly slowly, and needs far more bids!

EDIT: And higher bids! Look at how many pages this collection is!

There's such an embarrassment of riches here that it's easy to miss things. lol.

That does seem rather low. What would you suggest?

~Butters [:)]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521245#Comment_521245

As high as you're willing to pay.[:)]

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521281#Comment_521281

As high as you're willing to pay.

I'm REALLY bad at this - please advise. LOL.

fgh

How could I possibly have forgotten George MacDonald, the man who mentored Lewis Carroll, whom C S Lewis called his "master" and claimed "baptized" his imagination, and Chesterton said "made a difference to my whole existence"? A perfect candidate for CP.

There's a list of his books at 4 Bibliography, though there's far too many for one collection. Phantastes, the North Wind, and the Princess ones are musts.

The Sermons can wait, since they've already been made into a PB.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558851#Comment_558851

There's a list of his books at 4 Bibliography, though there's far too many for one collection. Phantastes, the North Wind, and the Princess ones are musts.

Yeah, now there's some fiction I wouldn't mind seeing as Vyrso freebies. [:)]

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

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George MacDonald,

Are you all familiar with the Michael Phillips' editions of MacDonald from Bethany House? I think they would do well in Vyrso.

As for the original MacDonald works, do y'all think they'd be worth doing in the Logos format? I guess if we do them in CP it doesn't really matter. What are your thoughts on that?

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558987#Comment_558987

George MacDonald,

Are you all familiar with the Michael Phillips' editions of MacDonald from Bethany House? I think they would do well in Vyrso.

As for the original MacDonald works, do y'all think they'd be worth doing in the Logos format? I guess if we do them in CP it doesn't really matter. What are your thoughts on that?

I personally would rather have the original MacDonald works than the abridged/modernized versions. But I might not be like typical Logos users. Would there be any point in doing both? They would appeal to different segments of users. I agree that the Bethany House ones would probably sell better, so those could/should be Vyrso titles, but I'd love to have the original versions in CP.

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/559100#Comment_559100

I agree that the Bethany House ones would probably sell better, so those could/should be Vyrso titles, but I'd love to have the original versions in CP.

My thoughts exactly! [:)]

You should see a CP collection up soon (assuming everything goes according to plan).

I'll make a Vyrso suggestion for the BHP editions.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/559134#Comment_559134

You should see a CP collection up soon (assuming everything goes according to plan).

Goodie!

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/559134#Comment_559134

You should see a CP collection up soon (assuming everything goes according to plan).

Great!

No, I wasn't familiar with the other edition. I was just thinking he's long dead, and there's no translator involved that might prevent them from being PD, so why pay a publisher when you don't have to? And now that I do know about that edition, I say like Rosie: I prefer the originals.

Have you looked into Thomas More for CP, like I suggested at the top of the page?

fgh

Henry Bettenson and Chris Maunder (eds): Documents of the Christian Church (OUP) (latest edition!).

Ben, this has been suggested at least twice more since I wrote the above (in Book ideas for History of Christianity I in RTS Global program and Documents of the Christian Church by Henry Bettenson, Chris Maunder). Any progress?

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/566724#Comment_566724

Here you go:

Select Life and Works of George MacDonald (25 vols.)

HJ. van der Wal

Ellis Peters (Edith Pargeter): the Brother Cadfael series

https://ebooks.noet.com/search?context=product&sortBy=relevance&limit=15&page=1&filters=Peters%2C%20Ellis%3A28829_Author