Creating a budget and cancelling orders
I've created this Faithlife group now: Creating a budget and cancelling orders.
New members can join immediately.
Like I've written in the description of that group, there is also some discussion at: Outdated and expensive.
The group is about budgets for treats and for helping each others to decide to cancel some book orders.
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I've created this Faithlife group now: Creating a budget and cancelling orders.
New members can join immediately.Like I've written in the description of that group, there is also some discussion at: Outdated and expensive.
The group is about budgets for treats and for helping each others to decide to cancel some book orders.
Cancelling orders should only be done sparingly and in great need. I realize that when we subscribe to an offering we don't know which of our subscriptions will come to publication at the same time so that the need may occur, but it is a commitment even if it is not a firm commitment. Logos is counting on those who have subscribed to fulfill their commitments to actually purchase the resources. It is bound to create some difficulty for the company though I suspect they have an allowance for such.
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Here's some advice that should help with your dilemma about cancelling orders:
Haha!
CP used to be a way to save money,but now the way they whip things out, I might have to limit what I bid on.
Here's some advice that should help with your dilemma about cancelling orders:
Maybe Logos could consider carrying that book "Don't Buy Stuff You Can't Afford". [:)]
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Here's some advice that should help with your dilemma about cancelling orders:
Maybe Logos could consider carrying that book "Don't Buy Stuff You Can't Afford".
Ha ha! And maybe they should charge $3000 for it, and then nobody should ever buy it.
bump!
George, I agree with You, but it's healthy to realize You need a budget and those who discuss this are probably in great need of cutting down on expenses!:
it is a commitment even if it is not a firm commitment. Logos is counting on those who have subscribed to fulfill their commitments to actually purchase the resources. It is bound to create some difficulty for the company
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But using the logos website perhaps shouldn't be a high a priority every week. Making a quick decision whenever You see a resource on the website is difficult. I usually need a bit of time to consider a purchase, and if I don't make the pre-pub order I may forget about the date when the price for the resource goes up - and that doesn't necessarily mean I'm not going to use it and need it. Compare to the discussion today in: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/71162/496009.aspx#496009
Soon I'm going to try harder for a couple of years to restrict myself from buying.
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Personally I don't think someone should place an order if they are not planning to actually keep it.
But if your 151 Pre-Pubs all ship the same month, what to do?
I don't think that is going to happen. Logos is pretty good about spreading them out.
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Personally I don't think someone should place an order if they are not planning to actually keep it.
But if your 151 Pre-Pubs all ship the same month, what to do?
I don't think that is going to happen. Logos is pretty good about spreading them out.
I still have 9 kids living at home so I can't afford all 151 Pre-Pubs Community Pricing titles. I'm getting very selective with my choices lately and my outstanding list will still buy a good used car. (Were we talking about CP titles or PP titles??)
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Personally I don't think someone should place an order if they are not planning to actually keep it.
The way Logos manages prepubs makes such expectations unreasonable and one sided.
By having the prepub prices jumping after x number of weeks, Logos forces customer to pre-order first and think later.
The fact that no clear timetable is given when you pre-order makes it very difficult to manage pre-orders, especially when many prepubs are published at the same time.
If prices were stable until the day a resource is published and if a timetable was given (at least the month when one expects publication), then it would be reasonable to expect people not to cancel so much.
If Logos is free to postpone release dates (sometimes by months), modify the content of some packages, or leave items in production state for years, then customers too have the right to change their minds when circumstances change or the do not need a product anymore.
I am sure Logos knows that and has incorporated these factors in their business plan, I do not particular like the uncertainty but my first obligation is to show good stewardship of the money I have,
We build the Book Cache program to help Logos users set and maintain a budget. Learn more about it here: Logos.com/Book-Cache.
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There's a real problem with some forum members trying to trick us into cancelling our orders.
Like many, I try to not use my head, saving all that intelligence for when I'm older. So, just like clockwork, I cancel orders.
Then along comes Melford (sp?) who happily says he got 'his' book while it was on CP or PP, while 'I' got mine at full price. I feel so like the grasshopper vs the ants back in grade-school. Then Ray says 'there's a better way'.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
I've spent more than I should, haven't used a large part of the books yet, and I have two very big pre-pub orders. There's something about the shopping-pattern and the desire to cover many topics.
I'm using the Book Cache program but I don't put in more money regularly as I would have to make a phone call and I don't have much more money. It would be good if You could both have money in the Book Cache and set a limit how much to spend in for example 4 months. Each user should be able to start the limit any month:
There's a real problem with some forum members trying to trick us into cancelling our orders.
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bump! This weekend I'm trying to get my total open pre-pub orders below $1,580. A few items ship next week, starting November 4.
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Then Ray says 'there's a better way'.
Book caché is one, but there's an even way better way: Set money aside on your own bank account every week or month just for books or upgrades and in the end if you choose not to buy a book you can still use YOUR money to purchase other stuff whereas with Book Caché you can't do that and is not refundable - you have to spend it on Logos no if's, but's about it.
Personally, I'm saving some to get the resources I want, meanwhile, I'll settle for what I have and just get a few resources here and there whenever they're on sale.
DAL
A perpetual enigma that rascal Desire
Haunting and pricking the fickle heart
To purchase what has not been budgeted for
It lights and entices and sets one's pocketbook afire
Oh how I wish to be rid of Desire!
bump!
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[:(] My, that is very good ...er... convicting. Pardon my ignorance, but who wrote that?"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
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I'm going to keep the 12-year $4,000 budget for books (4% of income), but during an initial period from late 2013-2014 it looks like it's going to be quite a bit over the average I had thought: Maybe I have to have a little bigger book budget while I go to uni?
A big chunk will go to: Oxford History of the Christian Church (16 vols.) $619.95 on pre-pub.
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I did. [:)]