Welcome to the new SDA Forum for Logos users

I'm excited that Logos has opened up a new forum for Seventh-day Adventist customers. As the new SDA product manager at Logos, it is my privilege to serve you here. I accepted the invitation after retiring from four decades of denominational service as a pastor, evangelist, editor (one-time associate editor of Ministry magazine; more recently editor of Mid-America OUTLOOK), and a volunteer police chaplain. My work here is to solicit products from my fellow Adventists, incorporate them into the Logos platform, and then make them accessible for you.

Lynden Williams has been a longtime Logos blogger and a great help in getting me connected in my new job. Lynden has suggested several Adventist products to get into Logos, and that process has begun. Here is a quick overview:

1) I submit a list of products for incorporation into Logos. If this is a new product or an existing document under copyright, we pursue a licensing contract with the publisher or author (whoever holds the rights). If it is an older book or manuscript not under copyright, then it may be accessible in the public domain. Such documents are often bundled into groups for efficient processing and marketing.

2) All products brought into Logos are tagged with our the proprietary indexing system. Regarding copyrighted products for which licensing is needed, the product typically goes into PrePub to cover the associated costs; if it's in the public domain, Community Pricing would typically be the route for Logos to publish it (unless there are unusual production costs involved, such as translation, in which case it is a PrePub).

3) The above process typically takes some time, both for PrePub orders to come in and fund the procurement process also because Logos is producing so many documents that there is often a traffic jam to work through. Happy is the day when we can announce a released product!

And I'm here to see that you have many happy moments with new Adventist products. Help me serve you well with any of your suggestions or questions. And please pray for me that I will be a optimal representative of Seventh-day Adventists around the world here at Logos.

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Lynden O. Williams

Welcome Martin. Looking forward to see what comes down the pipe. Looking for our Spanish friends to jump on board and recommend resources especially from http://www.iadpa.org

David Salazar

Hi Martin...

I replied to a post on a thread started by Lynden started, but the system flagged it for review. I imagine due to all the links for the book that I suggested.

Martin Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496377#Comment_496377

David, I'm interested in our suggestions. Please send those links direct to my Logos email address, as follows (in spelled-out form so as not to attract spam robots):

martin[dot]weber[at]logos[dot]com

BTW, I appreciate when any suggestions for product procurements come to me with links, both to ensure that I go after exactly what you want and also to save me time in doing my job here at Logos: 1) Title of book/document; 2) Name of author; 3) Name of publisher (if you have it) and 4) a link to where we can find the document (or the publisher's listing of it).

Remember that we have to prioritize, getting a good blend of classic Adventist works and cutting edge materials so I can create product bundles that will optimally serve your needs.

Martin Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496372#Comment_496372

I've been really talking up the Spanish market around here, and the response has been positive. I'm equally interested in Portuguese for our friends in Brazil (Brasil). (There's even a young man recently baptized whose parents down there named him after me when I was their pastor at New Hope Church near GC headquarters in Maryland.)

rog

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/496390#Comment_496390

Awesome to have this here Martin. Glad to see you in the Pacific Northwest - perhaps we can get together some time (although Vancouver, WA is still quite a ways from where you are now....

Dean J

I'm not SDA, but I would like to see Froom's Prophetic Faith of our Fathers in Logos.

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/497377#Comment_497377

I'm a faculty of Loma Linda University SDA.

Good to hear Logos carries more selection.

Martin H Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/497377#Comment_497377

@ Dean. I'm already working on that! I think we can get it for you!

Martin H Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/497430#Comment_497430

@Mike. Help me out with names of more Adventist resources that you want--I'll do my best to get them for you.

Martin H Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/497347#Comment_497347

Rog, I'd certainly enjoy getting together with you. If you can get up to Bellingham sometime, I'll show you around Logos headquarters. Or if I'm down your way sometime first, I'll try to connect there.

Paul Watson

It's curious that there aren't more adventist, Here on the forum. I am just a church member but I have progressed from 2 other Bible software packages up to Logos. I wish II could port all the Bibles that I have bought in the other softwares to Logos.
I bought the intro package at a adventist conference in Monterey in January. I already had the free package. What pushed me to buy was the fact that you had the display and the monthly payment option. I was there because my wife is in the marketing department of one of the churches agencys.
You really should try to hit the larger conferences and conventions and perhaps the colleges and universities.
Logos can have a steep learning curve, the videos help, but for the average person, ... it was last night when I figured out that I can create my own home page template that I had a light bulb moment and saw that I could use this for more than just looking up verses

Martin Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/570982#Comment_570982

Welcome to Logos, Paul! There will be many more SDAs in the Forums after we release the new SDA base packages, which will be shortly (you'll be offered dynamic pricing so you won't have to pay twice for the same package). It may take you awhile to get all settled in Logos, but I've found that the effort is worth it. If you want to give me some quick bullet points about how we can help new users get acclimatized into the Logos system, that would be great. Meanwhile, many people get help from Logos.com/Features

Paul Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/570990#Comment_570990

I can be very wordy , let me know if i get to be to verbose. I came to logos from esword and then olivetree and at the moment still have both in various computers. So when I came to Logos I am looking for a screen where my bibles are listed and I can look up a text. Of course I am greeted with the home screen and of course you can look up a text or a phrase from there. But theres all that other information and dont get me wrong, I love it and now I realize that I can make my own template and show just what I want to see... but I pretty much upgraded to a new and much faster computer and then dug around on you tube to figure that out. Perhaps there could be a easier and more accessible way to show folks ... this is what your used to ... a screen where you can look up verses and book mark and this is how you do that in logos ....

Adventist love to study the sabbath school lesson... so to introduce the concept of templates, you could illustrate by adding a window that has the sabbath school lessons. And then a window where they take notes on their conclusions from studying the lesson. And then you can illustrate the sync across multiple devices concept by adding... while you might be doing your main study on a pc... you only need take your smart phone or tablet to church and all your notes, the sabbath school book and your bible are in your hand. Along with any references that you may have made to the little red books. (writings of EG White)

Then perhaps you would point out... they can make a template that consist of 1 or 2 bibles and a notes page on the PC, pull it up on the tablet after sabbath school, take notes and follow the sermon. Go home and open that template on the pc and everything from church is there.

A third template for personal study and so on so forth... a fourth for giving Bible studies. There is also the set of adventist that love to pick a topic, say state of the dead, and chase down everything they can find about it to prove one point or another. Instead of sitting with a pen, paper and a computer, the whole study can be done in LOGOS and then pulled up on any device at any time. Folks need to see that cause they will be early adopters.

Finally,

Paul Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571108#Comment_571108

I hit enter to soon...

Finally, as I stood at the table and watched the video with another lady and heard the salesman go through all the features, I already had the free version, so I had an idea of what LOGOS was about. And I knew a pastor who had it several years back...

It is easy to see the value of LOGOS to the theologian, to the pastor, to the theology student, someone who is readily going to expand into all it's features. And once one sees how much more usuable it is over a simple verse look up program is, then swallowing the cost is a little easier, but they have to see it. And at the conventions... they have to see it in the 30-60 seconds that they spend in front of the LOGOS booth as they are drifting through the vendors hall in between meetings. I know I am getting closer and closer to marketing speak... I am not one... but my wife is.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571111#Comment_571111

Welcome to the forums Paul. You remind me of myself. Folks in my neck of the woods think that I work for the company.

Paul Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571134#Comment_571134

I am just trying to figure the program out. But was I both right in how the brethren will use the program and politically correct in how I stated things?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571179#Comment_571179

Each person will determine how they use it. The software is very versatile.

Paul Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571179#Comment_571179

Lynden... I forget what her exact title is but wife is in charge of marketing and expansion of a certain development and relief agency across North America at the GC. Level. For the 8 or 9 years that I drove her back and forth to work what she talked about was marketing. I bought LOGOS because I went with her as she did a display table in Monterey that was one aisle over from the LOGOS table and the guy seemed friendly. Enough and he answered my questions and it was a good experience. But as i sat with wife at her table I was watching the foot traffic.
(My punctuation and capitalization is weird because I am fighting auto correct on my phone)

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571188#Comment_571188

Sounds like she works at ADRA (Adventit Development and Relief Agency)

Paul Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/571190#Comment_571190

That was a righteous supposition.