Eastern Catholic liturgies

David Ames
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edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Eastern Catholic liturgies

In my studies I have found that there are five Eastern Catholic liturgies.
Searched my Logos Library and found three resources

Liturgies Eastern and Western Edited by C. E. Hammond
Liturgies Eastern and Western Edited by F. E. Brightman
A History of the Mass by Rev. JOHN O’BRIEN

Any other recommendations?

And do these resources come under the jurisdiction of Andrew Jones[Catholic] or Gabe Martini [Orthodox]

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    David,

    There is a collection of all the ancient, eastern liturgies here. I'll also be working to get us some other studies on the meaning of the Divine Liturgy in the near future, but this collection has everything you'd want as a starter.

    Let's get it pushed through CP! Tell your friends. [:)]

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    There is a collection of all the ancient, eastern liturgies here.

    I'm in, but since you brought it up: to what extent are these translations still in use?

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    fgh said:

    There is a collection of all the ancient, eastern liturgies here.

    I'm in, but since you brought it up: to what extent are these translations still in use?

    It depends on the Archdiocese here in the U.S. Hapgood's service book is by far the most influential and long-lasting of all English editions. Now, there are many service books produced as "one-offs" for each Archdiocese, with only the primary services for the year included. Other services are pulled from the traditional books as needed.

    English is still relatively "new" for Orthodox Churches, so there's no standardization at this point in time.

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, Gabe.

    English is still relatively "new" for Orthodox Churches

    Better stress that 'relatively', given that I'm Swedish.[:D]

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
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    fgh said:

    Better stress that 'relatively', given that I'm Swedish.[;D]

    This is close enough, right? [:D]

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    The only thing Swedish on that page is the subheading "Finlands Ortodoxa Kyrka". The rest is Finnish, which isn't even an indo-european language. 

    Finland has always had an Orthodox church. Sweden hasn't (except in the sense that Finland used to be Swedish). And because they've always had one (and have next to no immigration), they have one Orthodox church, with, as far as I know, one language: Finnish. Sweden has I don't know how many Orthodox and Oriental churches, jurisdictions and languages, splitting up an already very small group. And Swedish would, unfortunately, be one of the least used languages. I wouldn't know for sure, but I suspect the Syrian-Orthodox are the largest church, and since the Iraqi war, Arabic is probably the largest language (though most of those would be various versions of Eastern Catholic).

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Interesting, thanks for that info! Despite the fact that my wife is Swedish, I know very little about the nation or culture. [*-)]

    Sweden's Orthodox experience sounds a lot like most of the diaspora (such as North America): a variety of original jurisdictions that are mostly a result of emigration from the "mother lands."

    Arabic is a beautiful liturgical language. I have spent most of my time in the Antiochian Church (I was ordained by a Syrian bishop), and they are certainly a people in need of prayer these days, but I am now under Constantinople and the Archdiocese of the EP here in America.

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  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭

     I have spent most of my time in the Antiochian Church (I was ordained by a Syrian bishop), and they are certainly a people in need of prayer these days, 

    At our weekly prayer meetings we have been praying for the Christians in Islamic lands.  But our prayers have been a bit on the in general side.  Will add the Antochian Church to make them a bit more precise.  [and several others that my studies have 'uncovered' in the last week - maybe that was why I was lead to the study] 

    [put a bid in at $55 - it will never get there at $20] 

  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    Arabic is a beautiful liturgical language.

    Absolutely. Oh there's no price I wouldn't pay for Arabic Liturgy books and more Bibles in Logos! Do I stand a chance?

    I was ordained by a Syrian bishop

    Deacon or priest? 
  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Sleiman said:

    Arabic is a beautiful liturgical language.

    Absolutely. Oh there's no price I wouldn't pay for Arabic Liturgy books and more Bibles in Logos! Do I stand a chance?

    I was ordained by a Syrian bishop

    Deacon or priest? 

    I have the Divine Liturgy service book in Arabic, I will work to see if we can get that incorporated into Logos.

    I was made a subdeacon, and am currently working towards the diaconate. Whether or not I make the jump to priesthood someday is another question. [;)] 

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