PRODUCT PAGE ERRORS: A Critical Commentary and Paraphrase...
You might want to change a few things on this product page.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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yep.
While I expect fgh experiences this on some (maybe older) version of Safari, I can confirm the same less helpful look - the misplaced resource picture covers the current CP price graph - for latest version of Chrome.
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looks alright on Firefox with adblock & noscript.
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confirm on Safari 6.1
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Dan Francis said:
Boost the size and it will display correctly on safari...
Not for me. I always view all webpages about three steps enlarged. I had to shrink this one to produce the screenshot.
When you say "correctly", does that include showing the full title?
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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NB.Mick said:
I can confirm the same less helpful look - the misplaced resource picture covers the current CP price graph - for latest version of Chrome.
Looks fine to me on latest version of Chrome (Version 31.0.1650.63 m) on Windows 7.
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fgh said:
When you say "correctly", does that include showing the full title?
It depends[:)]
If my cursor is over the title then the title shows correctly
If my cursor is elsewhere then the title is truncated
It's quite strange watching it change as I move my cursor[:O]
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Rosie Perera said:
Looks fine to me on latest version of Chrome (Version 31.0.1650.63 m) on Windows 7.
Now I can see what you see (and the title change when mouse-touched) - if I enlargen my display to larger than 150%. It's not the actual size, but the percentage, the misplaced picture jumps to its place when I scroll size to 175% regardless whether it shows on my 15.4'' laptop or my 24'' monitor.
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Dan Francis said:
Boost the size and it will display correctly on safari...
-Dan
I found the same now for Chrome (at 170%), but not for IE 9 or 10, there the image is stuck, it's top right corner extending exactly under the word "bids" regardless of size.
EDIT: to be precise: for Chrome on Win 7 at my laptop as seen in my posting footer.
For curiosity I opened the page in Chrome on Kindle Fire: broken, and scaling to the maximum size didn't change it there. / EDIT
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just for the fun of it, two screenshots (Chrome on my 24''):
and for the those who love puzzles: who spots the little difference between this screenshot and all others above? [;)]
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NB.Mick said:
and for the those who love puzzles: who spots the little difference between this screenshot and all others above?
Yours is displaying in Euros and everyone else's is displaying in Pounds Sterling or US Dollars.
EDIT: Oh, and you've already bid, and no one else has.
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Rosie Perera said:
Yours is displaying in Euros and everyone else's is displaying in Pounds Sterling or US Dollars.
warm, but not hot
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NB.Mick said:
Just edited my previous answer but your post came through after I hit Post, so you probably haven't seen it.
I added this line:
EDIT: Oh, and you've already bid, and no one else has.
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Rosie Perera said:
Yours is displaying in Euros and everyone else's is displaying in Pounds Sterling or US Dollars.
warm, but not hot
EDIT: clonk, clonk, clonk [:D]
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it was the continuation of my "warm but not hot" remark. There's a children's game in Germany, comparable to the Mexican pinata-tradition, where a kid is blindfolded and tries to beat a metal cooking pot with a large wooden cooking spoon. The other players direct the kid with "warmer" or "colder" - your first try was "warm", since the Euros are related to the bid and physically near it on the screen as well.
Clonk clonk clonk should sound like your cooking spoon hitting the pot. Unlike the children's game, I fear there's no present beneath it.....
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Rosie Perera said:
Just edited my previous answer but your post came through after I hit Post, so you probably haven't seen it.
I added this line:
EDIT: Oh, and you've already bid, and no one else has.
I saw your edit after my post, so I edited mine as well.
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NB.Mick said:
it was the continuation of my "warm but not hot" remark. There's a children's game in Germany, comparable to the Mexican pinata-tradition, where a kid is blindfolded and tries to beat a metal cooking pot with a large wooden cooking spoon. The other players direct the kid with "warmer" or "colder" - your first try was "warm", since the Euros are related to the bid and physically near it on the screen as well.
Clonk clonk clonk should sound like your cooking spoon hitting the pot. Unlike the children's game, I fear there's no present beneath it.....
I know of the "warm" and "warmer" or "colder" hints when a person is guessing something and they get closer or farther away. We do the same. But I hadn't heard of the game with the spoon hitting the pot. For us, when the person guesses something correctly, we sometimes say "Ding! Ding! Ding!" -- the sound of a bell ringing, as on a TV game show when the contestant gets the right answer. "Clonk" sounds much like "clunk" which would be the sound made when something is broken or awkward (e.g., the sound of someone limping with their foot stuck in a coffee can), which is why I didn't know whether you were telling me I was correct or wrong.
Thanks for the cultural education!
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I noticed this glitch too. I'm on an older version of Safari.
Here's a link to a forum conversation about this resource for anyone wanting to know a little more about it:
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I've never seen so much interest in a product page error report before.[:)]
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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This appears to be screwing up other pages for community pricing. Chrome and Safari are both unable to permit bids.
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fgh said:
I've never seen so much interest in a product page error report before.
Lots of interest from users. Not a peep from Logos yet. But at least all our banter back and forth is keeping it on the Recent Topics list, so it will get seen by Logos eventually.
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Rosie Perera said:
Not a peep from Logos yet. But at least all our banter back and forth is keeping it on the Recent Topics list, so it will get seen by Logos eventually.
But it seems they fixed it - at least for Chrome on Win 7 (and on Kindle Fire) the product page looks fine now in normal sizes.
@mab: any examples? I just looked at a couple of pages and bid on a $4 cyclopedia, had no issues.
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NB.Mick said:
But it seems they fixed it
That's correct. This happens sometimes on products with long titles. We have a fix in the works, but our work around is to truncate the title.
RD3
Logos Marketing | ray.deck@logos.com
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Hi Folks,
I was able to reproduce the content disarray issue on Monday, but today it's not breaking for me at any zoom level except so small that the page is distorted in other ways, too. This is in several browsers in two OSes.
The title truncation is intentional. It is only a temporary solution to a tricky problem that is going to be fixed before too long in a much better way.
If there are further breakages please let us know. Thank you for helping to keep us on our toes!
Erik Eckhardt
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And here is a product with a very long title for testing purposes:
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Erik,
fgh found another long title that breaks the display: https://www.logos.com/product/38782/spicilegium-syriacum-containing-remains-of-bardesan-meliton-ambrose-and-mara-bar-serapion
discussed here http://community.logos.com/forums/t/80262.aspx
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Erik Eckhardt said:
And here is a product with a very long title for testing purposes:
Erik,
at least as of today, this title is not in CP, thus it fits (just so) on the top "row" of the display in the lefthand top box. When a product is not live, but in CP, the row is much shorter, since you display an info link "(?) what's Community Pricing" information on this same "row".
The title is left-aligned, the info link right aligned. When they clash, the latter is pushed to the next "row", distorting the page by pushing the resource picture down into the bidding price curve display.
Compare Graham's working and my distorted screenshot in the thread linked above to see the effect.
Mick
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One more datapoint:
On my 24'' monitor, using Chrome on Win 7, the title breaks the display at 67% and smaller, at 90%, at 110%, 125%, 150%, 200%, 250% whereas 75%, 100%, 175% and 300% work fine.
Why have the "(?) What's Community Pricing?" up in the title row at all? It won't get noticed there, no one expects it there and all it does is creating problems. I'm not a UI designer, but the white space just besides the "Bid Now" Button seems an optimal place for this information link, since it is exactly there where the info is needed. Below the light grey "*projected price" line is even more white space. Both areas will be affected if one has already bid on a product (but then the info shouldn't be needed any more). If this is undesirable, putting the link (maybe even shortened to "what's that?") besides the blue text "Projected Price" would again be more relevant than the current screen layout and (once working in all resolutions and languages of the page) be independent of title length changes.
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NB.Mick said:
On my 24'' monitor, using Chrome on Win 7, the title breaks the display at 67% and smaller, at 90%, at 110%, 125%, 150%, 200%, 250% whereas 75%, 100%, 175% and 300% work fine.
Basically the same is true for https://www.logos.com/product/39475/the-westminster-confession-of-faith-larger-and-shorter-catechisms-and-subordinate-standards currently in CP (some percentage-points may vary, didn't bother to check them all)
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