Any idea when The Dictionary of Classical Hebrew (8 vols.) by David J. A. Clines will be available?
Sorry, no idea. Logos really doesn't give time lines until a resource is about to ship. "Under development" could be a few months or more than a year.
could be a few months or more than a year.
Hoping it will be sooner than later.
I'm thinking 2016. (seriously)
If that is true (2016), I will have to buy Accordance, because it is available there. Can somebody tell me if 2016 is the date indeed?
No one knows
Alright... Can someone from Logos reply to this thread? When is this dictionary coming out? You don't want your customers to go purchase this somewhere, right? Well then respond - don't ignore it! At least that will give us (or me) some hope If you do not respond soon, then obviously you do not care (thats how I might take it). So, please... respond... soon.
I purchased DCH from the "other place" when they were running a 20% off deal. They have a similar deal running until April 9th for their 20th anniversary.
I was tired of waiting for Logos to even announce a date not to mention release it.
Logos is still rather clumsy/non-intuitive when working with Greek and Hebrew searches and texts. The two other alternatives are doing a much better job. This has led me to migrate most of my original language tools to the "other place" now that they have a Windows version.
My loyalty to a given platform only goes as far as the results, price and convenience it gives me. I have given up on making Logos my only platform for all my digital resources (I will still only buy commentaries in Logos format because of the ability to search through all of them with one single query and they cross references).
I hope Logos will consider your feedback.
Hi Alian,
Thanks for your note
I think I am going to go with the "other place" as well.. I just want to have all my lexicons in one place (software). But, I guess, I will have to now. I do not want to miss the 20% deal with the "other place." [I like how you said "other place" ]
Hi Alian, Thanks for your note I think I am going to go with the "other place" as well.. I just want to have all my lexicons in one place (software). But, I guess, I will have to now. I do not want to miss the 20% deal with the "other place." [I like how you said "other place" ]
Do you really want to go to that "other place"?
The quandary is palpable. Logos6, according to the trade mags, is supposed to introduce a visual 3-D view of lexical data, allowing you to explore across time, text quotes, available manuscripts, and syntax using your mouse/finger. And in Proclaim, I understand it's almost unbelievable.
So if the Classic Hebrew is in the 'other place', it's really going to be palpably painful. (This is a mythological metaphor to illustrate the palpable quandary being faced.)
Source? Image grab? Sounds fascinating, if true.
I wish too. I was only illustrating (from planet Zircon) that Logos tends to go for data manipulation in various ways. Forgoing a key lexicon (OK, lower than HALOT) would be unfortunate in the years to come (which for many is the planning horizon).
It would be fun though to 3D the search space results.
Hi Denise! I'm not sure how I'm going to pay for this; however, I think likely BEFORE 2016, eh?! *smile*
The Dictionary of Classical Hebrew is a completely new and innovative dictionary. Unlike previous dictionaries, which have been dictionaries of biblical Hebrew, it is the first dictionary of the classical Hebrew language to cover not only the biblical texts but also Ben Sira, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Hebrew inscriptions.
This dictionary covers the period from the earliest times to 200 CE. It lists and analyses every occurrence of each Hebrew word that occurs in texts of that period, with an English translation of every Hebrew word and phrase cited.
Among its special features:
The praise of BDB in 1892 may be repeated for this new dictionary. It is indeed ‘a landmark and a glory for the generation which produced [it].’
—C. S. Rodd, editor, Expository Times
Sheffield is to be congratulated on a remarkable achievement. Volume one proves beyond doubt that The Dictionary of Classical Hebrew is going to combine the strengths of the Gesenius-BDB tradition—thoroughness, comprehensiveness, meticulous ‘old-fashioned’ textual scholarship—with impeccable twentieth-century linguistic theory.
—J. F. A. Sawyer, Society for Old Testament Study Book List
If there is anything sensational about the contemporary study of ancient Hebrew, then one must say: It is in book form, and the book is called the Sheffield Dictionary of Classical Hebrew. Absolutely indispensable!
—Bernhard Lang, editor, Internationale Zeitschrift für Bibelwissenschaft und Grenzgebiete
Our forum expert (that's probably older than 39, unlike our other forum expert), panned it. I've bounced back and forth, I suppose demonstrating why a WishList for pre-pubs might make sense!
But while investigating which volume they're up to (volume 3 ... just joking), see:
https://www.logos.com/product/25972/classical-hebrew-poetry-a-guide-to-its-techniques
I'm really tempted ... decent price and the cover is just gorgeous (that's how I pick books to buy). I'm on the fence, since my last Libronix purchase was really iffy license-file-wise (they sent me a gracious refund yesterday). But it would really be NEAT to put this in a CitedBy against a hebrew text.
Peace, Denise! That Classical Hebrew Poetry Book is so desirable and so tempting. Unfortunately it has to be on my wish list for now .... but NOT ForEver, I hope! *smile*
Hi Alian, Thanks for your note I think I am going to go with the "other place" as well.. I just want to have all my lexicons in one place (software). But, I guess, I will have to now. I do not want to miss the 20% deal with the "other place." [I like how you said "other place" ] Do you really want to go to that "other place"?
George Somsel...
What do you mean by "Do you really want to go to that 'other place'"? If you are referring to Accordance, then YES! If you are referring to the picture, then I will have to send you a private message then writing something here on public forum. Unless you don't mind me writing here.
What do you mean by "Do you really want to go to that 'other place'"? If you are referring to Accordance, then YES! If you are referring to the picture, then I will have to send you a private message then writing something here on public forum. Unless you don't mind me writing here
Lighten up, Joel. It's a joke. Do you know what a joke is?
Do you know what a joke is?
Thats good! Yea, I do. But it didn't seem like you do. And what you said didn't sound like a joke. So, I had to make it clear.
After waiting 2 years for this dictionary I made the change to the other Windows Bible Program, which do have this.
I am also waiting already for 3 (?) years for the SESB in Logos 5, but it seems to me that it is gone with the wind.
It is a problem for me that Logos do not give feedback on Clines or SESB. SESB cost me a lot of money, but this is not the biggest frustration. Both SESB and Clines is very important to everyone who are interested in the Original Languages.
German Bible Society pulled be plug on SESB a couple of years ago - see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/47272.aspx
After waiting 2 years for this dictionary I made the change to the other Windows Bible Program, which do have this. I am also waiting already for 3 (?) years for the SESB in Logos 5, but it seems to me that it is gone with the wind. It is a problem for me that Logos do not give feedback on Clines or SESB. SESB cost me a lot of money, but this is not the biggest frustration. Both SESB and Clines is very important to everyone who are interested in the Original Languages.
It should be ready soon as it is part of the Collectors base package which folks have already paid for, we were told that all resources in base packages should be available early in 2015.
