Is there a future date that we will have an app for the Windows Phone? Would love to access my books from my phone.
Is there a future date that we will have an app for the Windows Phone?
I have not heard of any definite plans to create a windows phone app.
In my humble opinion don't count on it. Windows Phone is such a small market share (well less than 5% of new sales) now, it probably doesn't make business sense to support it but I am not affiliated with Logos in any way and am not privy to their plans...
Logos apps for Windows Phone depends on sales volume and usage by Logos users. Seem to remember a Logos user survey (last year) => Please try the user survey! that allows comments (e.g. Windows Phone) to be entered during survey.
Microsoft quarterly report did not break out Windows Phone sales, only "excitement" => http://www.slashgear.com/microsofts-windows-phone-sales-silence-speaks-volumes-19210138/
Gartner estimates in Feb 2012 show Windows Phone sales increase => http://wmpoweruser.com/gartner-windows-phone-sales-increased-450-yoy-62-between-q3-and-q4-2011/ (caveat: market share % is well below when Logos announced iOS and Android app development)
Alternative: can use http://biblia.com in Windows Phone browser for online access to your Logos library.
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We do not plan to develop a Logos Bible Software app for Windows Phone 7 at this time.
For more background, see the UserVoice discussion: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/510027-logos-on-windows-mobile
Is there a future date that we will have an app for the Windows Phone? Would love to access my books from my phone. We do not plan to develop a Logos Bible Software app for Windows Phone 7 at this time. For more background, see the UserVoice discussion: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/510027-logos-on-windows-mobile
Following Bradley's link from Logos User Voice suggestion to Windows phone development suggestion => http://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-app-platform noticed 3rd and 4th suggestions (by number of votes) are related and "under review", which were posted on 28 Dec 2011.
With the future release of Windows Phone 8 being based on C++, surely this decision is likely to overturned?
I have trouble deciphering Logos cloudy-talk but this shifted about 3 weeks back. I don't remember the thread. But the dual support on W8 is likely to impact a lot of development plans.
Don't count on it. Again with such a small user base it does not make business sense to devote developmental resources to Windows phone.
This helps, but Microsoft is doing it by essentially throwing out today's Windows Phone 7.x platform and moving to a Windows 8 platform. So while we may have support for Windows 8 "Metro" (on tablet and phone), you'd probably need to be on a Windows 8 device. We will not be investing in the now-abandoned Windows Phone 7.x platform.
So, it's been quite a while since I've seen anything posted on future possibilities with WP (or RT). It seems apparent that Microsoft will be merging the RT & WP line into a unified mobile OS. So, that still leaves that admittedly small--but excited--user-base without any real app on par with iOS or Android Logos apps.
With the new MS unified app-building structure, and the Visual Studio changes that make so much of the development process a turn-key production, I can't for the life of me understand why Logos hates WP users so much. [:'(] It absolutely kills me that I have to try to go to biblia.com to even read a book that I own in Logos.
When Apple is STILL such a small percentage of the desktop environment (OS X has a 6.7% global usage rate in 2014), but Logos developed the ENTIRE desktop app for their OS, it seems like the "percentage of market" argument isn't one that is uniformly decisive. In fact, I'd wager the user base was even smaller when Logos made the decision. Small user bases can be worth it.
Windows Phone 8 won't be the next iOS or Android. But, it sure appears that MS is in it for the long haul. They purchased an entire hardware company to ensure it could continue. They've shown with XBOX that they're willing to financially prop up entire ecosystems until they turn into something bigger. The fear shouldn't be that MS will drop the system. The WP OS will be around for the foreseeable future. User percentages may not explode, but numbers of users will. Would a million users be enough? We're already there.
I know you're a business. And, you aren't in business to appease the vast minority. But, with the pieces that MS has put in place, it just seems hard to believe that there isn't anyone at Logos who could port the app and bless the rest of us with a mobile solution for our investment in your company.
Of course, I'll continue to use Logos on the desktop. There's no hostility or foment of mutiny. But, it sure would be nice to show my friends your product on my phone.
my two cents...Matt
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It absolutely kills me that I have to try to go to biblia.com to even read a book that I own in Logos.
There already is a simple app in the Windows store.
A couple of thoughts: Yes, OSX is a "small" user base... but it is one which spends a considerable amount of money on "tech." Second, Macs have a much stronger hold on college students (including seminary). In other words, the potential market for Logos is considerably higher than the 6.7% you quoted.
you aren't in business to appease the vast minority.
The "vast minority"? That is a new one to me. [:)]
with the pieces that MS has put in place, it just seems hard to believe that there isn't anyone at Logos who could port the app and bless the rest of us with a mobile solution for our investment in your company.
If it were already "real easy," Logos would have done it. If it becomes "real easy," Logos will do it. If the market can justify it, Logos will do it.
Side note: If I weren't a Mac / iOS user, I would be inclined to give a Nokia Windows phone a glance... It seems to be a good phone and i would be more inclined to go that route than an Android phone.
It absolutely kills me that I have to try to go to biblia.com to even read a book that I own in Logos. There already is a simple app in the Windows store.
But not one which can run on a Windows phone
It absolutely kills me that I have to try to go to biblia.com to even read a book that I own in Logos. There already is a simple app in the Windows store. But not one which can run on a Windows phone
And it should be added that the simple app in the Windows store is no longer being actively updated per Ed Ball's post in this thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/79889.aspx
That was a rather disappointing development for me since I would like to use the Windows store app on my Venue 8 Pro during church service and the full desktop app for study. As it stands now, I'm relegated to using Olive Tree during church service since the Windows store app is not up to par.
Logos feels like a massive company. They have so many great resources and many projects. But in the grand scheme Logos is a small company. They do great things but as I understand it are short staffed already on programers, and are very judicious with their time in devoting to new projects. The sad fact of the matter is Windows Phone 8 market share is going down not up. http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp (it appears even more dismal when you look at over all mobile OS usage http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8&qpcustomd=1) MS also did themselves no favours by making it hard to develop. In the Android and iOS worlds you make an app for the one it works on both. Logos did make a windows 8RT app, but as I had heard it is not easily transferable down to the windows 8 phone. MS unfortunately has not been successful in small consumer electronics. It would not surprise me to see Phone and RT disappear in a year or two.
-Dan
