Romans Classic Update closing on Friday, October 24th.
Well, it is finally over. But $96 is just too much to pay for this resource. Come on folks, lets get the price down.
Please bid or adjust your bid now. - https://www.logos.com/product/37794/classic-commentaries-and-studies-on-romans-upgrade
I doubled my bid, but $90 is just too much for this. I'm surprised its going for what it is.
It would be lovely at half the price - but it is currently too rich for me!
We need a combination of people who bid $96 dropping their bids and others who bid lower to raise their bids.
Glad to see it move down a little to $84. It's still very high, far too high for me normally for a classic commentary on CP. But then, I can't get enough of Romans...
Glad it's heading down too. Can we get it down more?
Smaller increments - $6 instead of $12 for example - may help. [I]
But then, I can't get enough of Romans...
Has anybody noticed The Romans Collection (125 volumes) does not include this Romans Upgrade?
To have the ultimate Romans collection, get both!
LOWER your bids to $48 or less- this collection is only worth approx 1.50 per book.
Has anybody noticed The Romans Collection (125 volumes) does not include this Romans Upgrade? To have the ultimate Romans collection, get both!
I know, it's a shame it's not included. There are some more recent publications that aren't included in The Romans Collection too. But the ultimate Romans collection is becoming increasingly more possible in Logos format, although there are some publications still not available in digital format.
At the current price, it would go for $2.62 per book.
The only way for it to go lower is for all the people who do NOT think the collection is worth an average of $2.62 to actually place a bid for what they thiink it IS worth. Compared to previous Classic offerings, the high total price for the collection seems to have deterred many people and they are avoiding bidding. This is democracy in action folks. Your vote does NOT count if you do not bid. Your vote does NOT count if you wthdraw your bid. Bid what you think it IS worth and do not sell yourself short and miss out unless you do not want the collection.
That's a refreshing perspective! Wouldn't even cover shipping on a print volume. Sometimes I think we become myopic in perspective. Sure we want it less. So bid. Let's see what happens.
Remember with electronic books its data not paper- so if they sell 1000 copies no shipping involved, no tree dies, no ink used, no printing press, no building to house inventory; so they still make a substanial amount of money on thhe venture.
There is always the temptation to nickle and dime a Classic collection like this. But the best time to help set where the peak crosses the line is BEFORE it gets to 100%.After that it depends on teh risk takers who are willing to miss out or have the time to wait until the last minute to raise their bids a minute before closing (assuming not problems with internet traffic from your location...)
It is now set to close on Friday 10/24, and by recent practice it will close, even if the peak drops below 100% at the last minute, so lowering bids will no longer have any impact on the closing price. The only impact will be made by those who have not yet placed a bid placing a bid or by those who bid low deciding they are willing to pay a few cents more per volume.
Check over the details and decide what the collection would be worth to you: that will be a different value for everyone: to some it will be worth nothing... the key is : bid what you think it will be worth to you (but try to avoid missing out because of bidding a few cents per volume too low)
$84=$2.62 per book at the current closing price: bid this price if you want to be sure to add these books to your Romans collection$72=$2.25 might just make it if we can get a few extra bids$60=$1.88 would require a LOT of new bidders$48=$1.50 a little too late to realistically expect it to go that low, but try it if you like the sport and do not care if you get it$36=$1.13 has happened on rare occasions for a really popular title or collection, but too late in this game to be much more than a spolied ballot$24=$0.75 not a chance, this collection does not have that kind of momentum or popularity, and there are less than 3 days left now....
$72=$2.25 might just make it if we can get a few extra bids
It has gone up a bit more even tonight. It is very much within reach.
When this hits pre-pub and goes into production- the next upgrade will cost you approx. $6 per volume- so do yourself a favor- drop your bids to at least $48 - thats what this program is all about.
Do fellow believers a favor- DROP YOUR BID!
drop your bids to at least $48
Would you stop with this stupidity and really learn how this works!!! All you're doing is contributing to someone lowering their bid to $48 and missing out all together when this closes in less than 3 days. If you don't want the product fine but stop misleading people with your ignorant ideas!!!
drop your bids to at least $48 Would you stop with this stupidity and really learn how this works!!! All you're doing is contributing to someone lowering their bid to $48 and missing out all together when this closes in less than 3 days. If you don't want the product fine but stop misleading people with your ignorant ideas!!!
Alex thats a little harsh. In an ideal world there are enough forum lurkers to lower the bids, pulling the product back from production. In practice I'm not sure there are enough to lower the price on this particular product. But one can hope . The way it works alex is as follows: If a product requires 100$ to enter production, 100 people can bid a dollar, 25 can bid 4 dollars, 4 can bid 25$ or one could bid 100$. Right now we have fewer bidders in for a higher amount (IE probably 25 people bidding 4$). Whyndell's theory is that if we can get a goodly percent (2-3% by dead reckoning) of those 25 people to lower their bid, production will be canceled giving us more time to get the product over the line at the lower rate. In a sense we would be gaming the system. In practice 2-3 pct is probably a hundred, or a thousand people depending on the cost of getting the title into production. Thus a lofty, but worthy goal. Plus anyone who pays a bit of attention can login on friday and raise their bid if need be. My bid is not 48$ but its lower than the current bid thats over the line. We shall see what happens.
Whyndell's theory is that if we can get a goodly percent (2-3% by dead reckoning) of those 25 people to lower their bid, production will be canceled giving us more time to get the product over the line at the lower rate. In a sense we would be gaming the system.
Hate to disappoint, but while it appears to have happened a few times a few years ago, recent practice has been to NOT change the closing date due to people pulling their bids, and to close at whatever was the peak before it dropped below 100%.
Bottom line is that it no longer works that way and lowering your bid (after it crosses the line and has a closing date set) no longer has any impact on the closing price.
The only way lowering your bid has any impact is BEFORE it crosses the line and gets a closing date. That strategy was tried for several months on this collection and failed because many people only bid when they know the date that it is going to close.
Whyndell's theory is that if we can get a goodly percent (2-3% by dead reckoning) of those 25 people to lower their bid, production will be canceled giving us more time to get the product over the line at the lower rate. In a sense we would be gaming the system. Hate to disappoint, but while it appears to have happened a few times a few years ago, recent practice has been to NOT change the closing date due to people pulling their bids, and to close at whatever was the peak before it dropped below 100%. Bottom line is that it no longer works that way and lowering your bid (after it crosses the line and has a closing date set) no longer has any impact on the closing price. The only way lowering your bid has any impact is BEFORE it crosses the line and gets a closing date. That strategy was tried for several months on this collection and failed because many people only bid when they know the date that it is going to close.
Can you give a couple examples? I'm always lurking or posting on the cp closing threads... I can't think of a single one where that happened. Doesn't mean it didn't, I just can't think of one
Difficult to give examples given the records tend to disappear at closing, however the following threads give a flavor for what has happened in past CPs: the Classic Commentaries on Revelation saga was quite significant: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/48421/359130.aspx#359130the Works of Aristotle thread shows a few recollections of previous occurences:https://community.logos.com/forums/t/67517.aspxthe thread on the Classic Commentaries on Mark upgrade also gives some insights:https://community.logos.com/forums/t/85911.aspx?PageIndex=1
The behaviour of the Colenso collection was probably the first to get pulled for a while after it dropped below 100%, but that only happened a couple of times about two years ago:https://community.logos.com/forums/t/59465.aspx?PageIndex=1
