I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?
Also what is the best way of counting in library view?
I have 2605 on mobile.
Halo Hound
Nice one more than i currently own [;)] The reason i started this post is that after the L6 upgrade i find that 40 - 50 commentaries for each book of the Bible.. I have 50 for Romans.
I have been thinking do i really need the Classic commentary for Romans also?
I stopped buying the classic commentaries some time ago ... I realised that I was simply not using them ... and that they are so expensive ... not on a per commentary basis ... but let us say $50 per set ... times 66 books of the bibles is a big lump of money that would be better spent on NICNT/NICOT/Anchor/<add a modern set here>.
The way I was looking at it was that trawling through the older commentaries was unlikely to produce any insights that have not been covered by the modern commentators ... assuming that they have done a diligent level of research themselves. Then that may reflect my not being in academia and not spotting potential nuances in the texts.
That said ... I still get the shakes at the thought that I returned some commentaries and have passed on some 'bargains'[:$]
I have some older commentaries and they are interesting as comparison with new. But for the most part, if I want old commentaries, I prefer paper so I can sneeze over the musty smell and blow dust off the bindings, open the darkened yellowing pages and run a finger over the textured paper, note the scribbles of some reader eons ago, read a few lines and marvel how language has changed and then replace it reverently on the shelf. I can't get excited about investing too heavily in electronic classics that rob me of the main reason to have them.
I kept Romans till I could really decide if it was worth it to me- deleted it today- I'll use the $84 on something else.
Lol, Gao, you're awesome! There IS something missing, now, isn't there? How DO we digitize dust and old scrawly notes?! Great point!
I only purchased 3 classic sets. Psalms, Proverbs, Apocrypha are the only ones I have bought. Psalms was worth it to me I am up in the air with the other 2 sets.
-Dan
I only purchased 3 classic sets. Psalms, Proverbs, Apocrypha are the only ones I have bought. Psalms was worth it to me I am up in the air with the other 2 sets. -Dan
This thread caused me to peruse the commentary section on Logos. And I ran across The Complete Classic Commentaries Bundle -- 1537 volumes of various classic commentaries, with coverage on all the books of the Bible. It contains some commentaries that are already in base packages, so this seems a good way to pick up a lot of commentaries all at once that you don't already own. https://www.logos.com/product/33554/the-complete-classic-commentaries-bundle
This thread caused me to peruse the commentary section on Logos. And I ran across The Complete Classic Commentaries Bundle -- 1537 volumes of various classic commentaries, with coverage on all the books of the Bible. It contains some commentaries that are already in base packages, so this seems a good way to pick up a lot of commentaries all at once that you don't already own.
https://www.logos.com/product/33554/the-complete-classic-commentaries-bundle
I was able to get into this simply because I got into Logos and Community Pricing just before all those sets cleared CP (I had missed two--but cleaned up when they released the bundle). So I've got this and I even added a custom section in the passage guide to look only at this set for a passage search. Unfortunately, I've hardly looked through them because by the time I've already worked through a passage on my own and then looked at commentaries that I like, there isn't much time left over--at least, if I want to finish my writing. I wonder if that may constitute too many commentaries...but I trust that some day they'll come in handy.
Regarding CCCB, there's got to be a good way to get a deal on this. The are all public domain works (no licensing to pay), and Logos already paid for their production through CP. That should mean that they can give very deep discounts if they're so inclined. I haven't seen it happen that way yet, but it might be worth working a sales person if you're able. Every dollar they get from you on that bundle is pure profit--hopefully they'd be willing to move significantly. FYI, it was introduced for $2590 when it was new.
I really want the set, but maybe I'll wait until I'm back in school and can get the academic discount. In the meantime, I might pick up the ones on the Pentateuch since that's what I'll be studying over the next few months.
Some of the individual packages have academic discount, though not all do. Also, the mega bundle does not have AD.
The reason i started this post is that after the L6 upgrade i find that 40 - 50 commentaries for each book of the Bible.. I have 50 for Romans.
I checked the passage guide shows 59 commentaries in my L6. Many commentaries say the same thing, but some odd commentaries may say something interesting occasionally.
It would be nice if the user could tag the commentaries in a hierarchical way and use them to show up only those commentaries that are needed for a certain job: sermon, debate, or research etc.
Are you aware that you can put commentaries (and other resources) into collections and then set up a custom Passage Guide so that when you are looking up commentaries in them you can group them as you wish?
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/88829.aspx shows a very helpful set of rules from Mark Barnes
Thanks Graham, I'll follow your advice. Currently I use layouts having selected commentaries, but it is good to learn new tricks!
seventy times seven?
It would be nice if the user could tag the commentaries in a hierarchical way
In addition to Graham's comment on collections, I give commentaries star ratings. Then created collections: 5 stars = Primary, 4 stars = Secondary, 3 stars = Tertiary.1 star = practically worthless. I then set up a custom passage guide for these commentary collections.
If you need additional information, just ask. (I did not rate any commentaries as 2 star because 2 stars is reserved for unrated resources)
Are you aware that you can put commentaries (and other resources) into collections and then set up a custom Passage Guide so that when you are looking up commentaries in them you can group them as you wish? https://community.logos.com/forums/t/88829.aspx shows a very helpful set of rules from Mark Barnes
My passage guide (using those rules and a little tagging), looks like this. During sermon prep I tend to work down a section at a time - using the technical commentaries early in preparation to understand the passage, the more expository ones to help with illustration and application. The later ones I keep for special occasions! I don't follow Jack's method of using ratings to separate out my commentaries, because I use prioritisation to ensure my favourite commentaries appear at the top of each section.
Without this categorisation, I couldn't keep on top of everything. I have 255 commentaries that cover Romans (partly due to this).
I give commentaries star ratings. Then created collections: 5 stars = Primary, 4 stars = Secondary, 3 stars = Tertiary.1 star = practically worthless. I then set up a custom passage guide for these commentary collections.
Why don't I see a "Commentaries, Practically Worthless" section in your PG? [:p]
What's the rule for "Practically worthless?" That would be useful.
Mark,
Would you post your rule for Christocentric commentaries please?
Mark, Would you post your rule for Christocentric commentaries please?
I don't know that many commentaries that qualify, so it's just: type:bible-commentary (title:("preaching christ", christological,"christ-centered"), series:("Discovering Christ", "The Gospel according to the Old Testament"), mytag:commentary-christocentric)
Basically, that is a very subjective judgment call on my part. When I feel that a commentary presents non-sustainable positions with little or no support, it gets one star. I am certain that others would disagree.
While I have tremendous respect for Mark Barnes, his classification system did not fit my study habits [:D]. But then, most of my 5-star commentaries tend to be technical in nature.
While I have tremendous respect for Mark Barnes, his classification system did not fit my study habits .
There's still time for the old dog to learn new tricks [:P]!
Going back the thread a ways...
In defense of Classic commentaries, I am presently going through the Classic Commentaries on Psalms and loving them. What a loss if I had passed up all that treasure! They are as good as the new stuff every whit.
While I have tremendous respect for Mark Barnes, his classification system did not fit my study habits . There's still time for the old dog to learn new tricks !
There's still time for the old dog to learn new tricks !
I probably have socks older than you are [:P]
Regarding CCCB, there's got to be a good way to get a deal on this. The are all public domain works (no licensing to pay), and Logos already paid for their production through CP. That should mean that they can give very deep discounts if they're so inclined. I haven't seen it happen that way yet, but it might be worth working a sales person if you're able. Every dollar they get from you on that bundle is pure profit--hopefully they'd be willing to move significantly. FYI, it was introduced for $2590 when it was new. I really want the set, but maybe I'll wait until I'm back in school and can get the academic discount. In the meantime, I might pick up the ones on the Pentateuch since that's what I'll be studying over the next few months.
FYI, the set is currently on sale for $2800 for Boxing Day.
