Master/Theological Journals Bundle
While the "general" forum fills up with discussions on the proposed Master/Theological Journals Bundle, what are the possibilities to get some Anglican content ?
- Anglican Theological Review : http://www.anglicantheologicalreview.org/
- Journal of Anglican Studies : http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayJournal?jid=AST
- Sewanee Theological Review : http://theology.sewanee.edu/pubs/sewanee-theological-review
- Anglican Evangelical Journal for Theology and Mission (ANVIL) : http://www.degruyter.com/view/j/anv
- Churchman : http://www.churchsociety.org/churchman/
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Absolutely. I would very much welcome such a development, particularly the ATR and the JAS.
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Not familiar with them, but definitely get them in Logos. Want access to all Academic Journals for users to use offline.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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David J. Wilson said:
Anglican Theological Review : http://www.anglicantheologicalreview.org/
[Y] Here's an enthusiastic vote for this one. I came across an abstract of an article from it in RTA and wanted to look up the article. I couldn't find it there, but I did find lots of other interesting stuff, and I would definitely buy this journal.
Their online archives on their website only go back to 2003. EBSCO has full text starting from 1990, but publication began in 1918, and it would be great to get digital issues all the way back to the beginning. The article I was looking for was from 1980 so it wouldn't have been in the EBSCO texts.
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Rosie Perera said:David J. Wilson said:Anglican Theological Review : http://www.anglicantheologicalreview.org/
Here's an enthusiastic vote for this one. I came across an abstract of an article from it in RTA and wanted to look up the article. I couldn't find it there, but I did find lots of other interesting stuff, and I would definitely buy this journal.I'll just vote again to say how great this would be :-) I'm surprised that up to date (and old) journals are not something already adopted by Logos because i imagine it would be a real draw for academics.
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Well at least they have made a good start: https://www.logos.com/product/46386/theology-journal-bundle
Which contains:
- Churchman, 1, 6, 12–13, 15–21, 32, 38–40, 42–44, 46–126, 99 vols. (1886, 1892, 1898, 1901–1907, 1918, 1924–1926, 1928–1929, 1932–2010)
or if you prefer even more journals:
https://www.logos.com/product/46553/master-journal-bundle
0 - Churchman, 1, 6, 12–13, 15–21, 32, 38–40, 42–44, 46–126, 99 vols. (1886, 1892, 1898, 1901–1907, 1918, 1924–1926, 1928–1929, 1932–2010)
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Rosie Perera said:
The article I was looking for was from 1980 so it wouldn't have been in the EBSCO texts.
Rosie it is available in fulltext from ATLA, which is hosted by EBSCO, in case you are still looking for it. That seems to have the FT back to 1918.
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Some of the Journals included in the above are:
Only 5 volumes perhaps, but each amounts to a "book" containing over 200 pages on the selected topic:
Ex Auditu: 2008–2012 includes the five latest issues of the journal. Over 40 contemporary theological scholars contributed to these five issues, including Scot McKnight, R. W. L. Moberly,John M. G. Barclay, Ben Witheringon III, William H. Willimon, and others. The volumes contained in this collection discuss “The Idolatry of Security,” “Conversion,” “Atonement,” “Money and Possessions,” and “Family.”
and volumes 1-4 and 6-9 of Scrinium (Georgias Press) at 400+ pages per volume
http://www.gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/c-126-scrinium-revue-de-patrologie-dhagiographie-critique-et-dhistoire-ecclsiastique-1817-7530.aspx
Scrinium. Revue de patrologie, d’hagiographie critique et d’histoire ecclésiastique, established in 2005, is an international multilingual scholarly journal devoted to patristics, critical hagiography, and Church history. Each volume is dedicated to a theme in early church history, with a particular emphasis on Eastern Christianity, while not excluding developments in the Western Church.
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I just placed my order for this.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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David P. Moore said:Rosie Perera said:
The article I was looking for was from 1980 so it wouldn't have been in the EBSCO texts.
Rosie it is available in fulltext from ATLA, which is hosted by EBSCO, in case you are still looking for it. That seems to have the FT back to 1918.
Thanks! I have access to ATLA as an alumna of Regent College. I was able to find the article.
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David J. Wilson said:
Well at least they have made a good start: https://www.logos.com/product/46386/theology-journal-bundle
Argh. Logos makes me think I'm some kind of liberal heretic as, whilst I can't dispute that "Churchman" falls somewhere on the Anglican spectrum, it's not what I'd understand to be particularly mainstream. I've looked at the Master Journal Bundle, but I just feel that it schews in a much more evangelical than catholic direction. I'd really value:
Journal of Anglican Studies
Anglican Theological Review
Sewanee Theological Review
Worship (Liturgical Press)
The Bible Today (Liturgical Press)
Faith and Worship (Prayer Book Society)0 -
Rayner said:
I've looked at the Master Journal Bundle, but I just feel that it skews in a much more evangelical than catholic direction.
That's certainly true, for a number of reasons—the main being that's who our core audience has been for the last 20+ years.
Rayner said:I'd really value:
Journal of Anglican Studies
Anglican Theological Review
Sewanee Theological Review
Worship (Liturgical Press)
The Bible Today (Liturgical Press)
Faith and Worship (Prayer Book Society)All but the last were on my journals wishlist. I've added it.
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Phil Gons said:
All but the last were on my journals wishlist. I've added it.
How do you prioritize your journals wishlist? There's been a longstanding gap in the sorts of journals I would like to have in Logos, which are some of the main ones that were available in the bound periodicals section of my seminary library that I used to go to for research on papers. I'm trying to get some assistance from the reference librarian there to make up a list of my high priority journals for you. But I know just off the top of my head that these ones would be on my list:
Vetus Testamentum
Novum Testamentum
Literature & Theology
Interpretation
Journal of Theological Studies
Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
Journal for the Study of the New Testament
Crux (the one published by Regent College)And a new one started since I graduated, but which I definitely would have made use of:
Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
Journal of Theological Studies
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Rosie Perera said:
How do you prioritize your journals wishlist?
That's a great question. My method currently is something like this:
- If it's a journal I'm familiar with and consider popular and reputable, I typically rank it as a tier 1. If I'm familiar with it but wouldn't place it in the same caliber as tier 1, it's tier 2. If I'm not familiar with it or consider it a weak journal, it's tier 3. (For background, I have a BA in Bible with a minors in Greek and Ancient Languages, an MA in Bible, and a PhD ABD in Theology. So I have pretty good familiarity with a decent number of journals.)
- I consulted with all the denominational product managers to confirm or correct my judgments.
- I consulted with professor friends of mine and asked for their lists of top journals. I've made sure all of them were tier 1, if they weren't already.
- When I see multiple requests for a journal in the forums, I make sure it's categorized as tier 1.
I'm sure there are other approaches I could take, like:
- Build a tool that allows users to vote them up and down (something I've wanted to do for a long time for all resources we don't yet have).
- Use citation frequency in the Logos library to rank them. I've used this approach for other projects, and it's worked well.
Both of these are labor intensive, so the current approach will have to work for now. I'm open to other ideas though.
Rosie Perera said:There's been a longstanding gap in the sorts of journals I would like to have in Logos, which are some of the main ones that were available in the bound periodicals section of my seminary library that I used to go to for research on papers. I'm trying to get some assistance from the reference librarian there to make up a list of my high priority journals for you. But I know just off the top of my head that these ones would be on my list:
Vetus Testamentum
Novum Testamentum
Literature & Theology
Interpretation
Journal of Theological Studies
Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
Journal for the Study of the New Testament
Crux (the one published by Regent College)And a new one started since I graduated, but which I definitely would have made use of:
Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
Journal of Theological Studies
All of these were on my list, and all were marked as tier 1 except for two, which I've changed.
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Phil Gons said:
That's a great question. My method currently is something like this:
- If it's a journal I'm familiar with and consider popular and reputable, I typically rank it as a tier 1. If I'm familiar with it but wouldn't place it in the same caliber as tier 1, it's tier 2. If I'm not familiar with it or consider it a weak journal, it's tier 3. (For background, I have a BA in Bible with a minors in Greek and Ancient Languages, an MA in Bible, and a PhD ABD in Theology. So I have pretty good familiarity with a decent number of journals.)
- I consulted with all the denominational product managers to confirm or correct my judgments.
- I consulted with professor friends of mine and asked for their lists of top journals. I've made sure all of them were tier 1, if they weren't already.
- When I see multiple requests for a journal in the forums, I make sure it's categorized as tier 1.
Phil Gons said:All of these were on my list, and all were marked as tier 1 except for two, which I've changed.
Great, Phil. Thanks!
Now one more question, or rather series of questions. Sorry for continuing to bug you.
How many on your list of 700 or so are currently Tier 1? How likely is it that many of the Tier 1 journals are going to make it into Logos? Are some of them in the works already, or this just a pie-in-the-sky wish list?
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Rosie Perera said:How many on your list of 700 or so are currently Tier 1?
136/720
Rosie Perera said:How likely is it that many of the Tier 1 journals are going to make it into Logos?
I think it's pretty likely that we'll get many of them eventually. I'm not sure how soon, or how many. Our primary focus now is on the remaining TJL journals.
Rosie Perera said:Are some of them in the works already, or this just a pie-in-the-sky wish list?
Yes. Our team is in active conversation with some on the list. It's probably unrealistic to think we'll get all of them, but I don't think it's unreasonable that we'll get many of them.
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Thanks! Now one more question: do you ever sleep? [:)]
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Phil Gons said:
Both of these are labor intensive, so the current approach will have to work for now. I'm open to other ideas though.
I came up with another idea. It'll be interesting to see how the ranking compares.
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Hey Phil, here's another new one to add to your list of 700+.
The Yale ISM Review - published by Yale Institute of Sacred Music, a biannual, open-access online publication serving practitioners in the fields of sacred music, worship, and the related arts.
Volume 1, Issue 1 has just been released this Fall.
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Rosie Perera said:
Hey Phil, here's another new one to add to your list of 700+.
The Yale ISM Review - published by Yale Institute of Sacred Music, a biannual, open-access online publication serving practitioners in the fields of sacred music, worship, and the related arts.
Volume 1, Issue 1 has just been released this Fall.
Looks Good Rosie.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Phil Gons said:Rayner said:
I'd really value:
Journal of Anglican Studies
Anglican Theological Review
Sewanee Theological Review
Worship (Liturgical Press)
The Bible Today (Liturgical Press)
Faith and Worship (Prayer Book Society)All but the last were on my journals wishlist. I've added it.
I'm very excited about the fact that these are on your journals wishlist. That's really excellent news. I think you'd start to see more academic / UK users with a more Anglican (and, indeed, catholic) selection.
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Rosie Perera said:Phil Gons said:
All but the last were on my journals wishlist. I've added it.
How do you prioritize your journals wishlist? There's been a longstanding gap in the sorts of journals I would like to have in Logos, which are some of the main ones that were available in the bound periodicals section of my seminary library that I used to go to for research on papers. I'm trying to get some assistance from the reference librarian there to make up a list of my high priority journals for you. But I know just off the top of my head that these ones would be on my list:
Vetus Testamentum
Novum Testamentum
Literature & Theology
Interpretation
Journal of Theological Studies
Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
Journal for the Study of the New Testament
Crux (the one published by Regent College)And a new one started since I graduated, but which I definitely would have made use of:
Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
Journal of Theological Studies
Could I just add that I second this comment entirely? I see Logos as offering a theological library for those without library access and I would definitely like to see some academic titles that are less evangelical.
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Rosie Perera said:
Hey Phil, here's another new one to add to your list of 700+...
Rosie, it's a little off-topic, but I'd value your view. Would it be better to buy the Master Journal bundle in anticipation that some of the 720 will come on board at some stage and it will be cheaper to buy it and add some than to buy it later? I have no interest in the following:
Adventist Today
Churchman
Conservative Theological Journal
Detroit Baptist Seminary
Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood
Journal of Dispensational Theology
Maranatha Baptist Theological Seminary
Southern Baptist Journal of Missions and Evangelism
(And those are just the ones that I know from the titles that I don't want, I haven't checked all of them. I'm just unsure about whether to purchase this bundle, given that it's likely that some of the other new journals that you and I suggested will be added in future, and it may be more expensive to buy an entire bundle then).0 -
Rayner said:
Rosie, it's a little off-topic, but I'd value your view. Would it be better to buy the Master Journal bundle in anticipation that some of the 720 will come on board at some stage and it will be cheaper to buy it and add some than to buy it later?
If the bundle has lots of journals in it that you wouldn't want, you might want to just hold off and selectively buy just the journals you want. That's how I did it for most of the journals I own. I might have ended up paying more in total than if I'd bought the TJL, but so few of the ones in that bundle interested me. Maybe someday they'll put together a bundle of journals that are of more interest to to people like you and me.
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Rosie Perera said:Rayner said:
Rosie, it's a little off-topic, but I'd value your view. Would it be better to buy the Master Journal bundle in anticipation that some of the 720 will come on board at some stage and it will be cheaper to buy it and add some than to buy it later?
If the bundle has lots of journals in it that you wouldn't want, you might want to just hold off and selectively buy just the journals you want. That's how I did it for most of the journals I own. I might have ended up paying more in total than if I'd bought the TJL, but so few of the ones in that bundle interested me. Maybe someday they'll put together a bundle of journals that are of more interest to to people like you and me.
Thanks. That does make sense I'm going to hold off and hope for a more rounded academic or Anglican bundle in future or may buy them separately as you suggest. Also, I can see that Anchor Yale Bible Commentaries are in the Christmas sale, but whew... still expensive.
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Phil Gons said:Rosie Perera said:
There's been a longstanding gap in the sorts of journals I would like to have in Logos, which are some of the main ones that were available in the bound periodicals section of my seminary library that I used to go to for research on papers. I'm trying to get some assistance from the reference librarian there to make up a list of my high priority journals for you. But I know just off the top of my head that these ones would be on my list:
Vetus Testamentum
Novum Testamentum
Literature & Theology
Interpretation
Journal of Theological Studies
Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
Journal for the Study of the New Testament
Crux (the one published by Regent College)And a new one started since I graduated, but which I definitely would have made use of:
Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
Journal of Theological Studies
All of these were on my list, and all were marked as tier 1 except for two, which I've changed.
Hi Phil,
Here's another one to make sure it's in Tier 1 if it isn't already:
It has great and ground-breaking articles, and is often cited. I'm reading one right now called "How Firm a Foundation: Martin Bucer's Historical Exegesis of the Psalms" by R. Gerald Hobbs, Church History Vol. 53, No. 4 (Dec., 1984), pp. 477-491.It has been around since 1932. It's up to volume 83 now. Try to get all the back volumes going back to Volume 1. Thanks!0 -
Rosie Perera said:Phil Gons said:Rosie Perera said:
There's been a longstanding gap in the sorts of journals I would like to have in Logos, which are some of the main ones that were available in the bound periodicals section of my seminary library that I used to go to for research on papers. I'm trying to get some assistance from the reference librarian there to make up a list of my high priority journals for you. But I know just off the top of my head that these ones would be on my list:
Vetus Testamentum
Novum Testamentum
Literature & Theology
Interpretation
Journal of Theological Studies
Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
Journal for the Study of the New Testament
Crux (the one published by Regent College)And a new one started since I graduated, but which I definitely would have made use of:
Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
Journal of Theological Studies
All of these were on my list, and all were marked as tier 1 except for two, which I've changed.
Hi Phil,
Here's another one to make sure it's in Tier 1 if it isn't already:
Church History: Studies in Christianity and Culture It has great and ground-breaking articles, and is often cited. I'm reading one right now called "How Firm a Foundation: Martin Bucer's Historical Exegesis of the Psalms" by R. Gerald Hobbs, Church History Vol. 53, No. 4 (Dec., 1984), pp. 477-491. It has been around since 1932. It's up to volume 83 now. Try to get all the back volumes going back to Volume 1. Thanks!
Great! Yes, I'd second that. Anything that is more rounded and academic than existing offering would be good. I think there'd be more demand in the UK market from academics for that.
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Rayner said:Rosie Perera said:Phil Gons said:Rosie Perera said:
There's been a longstanding gap in the sorts of journals I would like to have in Logos, which are some of the main ones that were available in the bound periodicals section of my seminary library that I used to go to for research on papers. I'm trying to get some assistance from the reference librarian there to make up a list of my high priority journals for you. But I know just off the top of my head that these ones would be on my list:
Vetus Testamentum
Novum Testamentum
Literature & Theology
Interpretation
Journal of Theological Studies
Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
Journal for the Study of the New Testament
Crux (the one published by Regent College)And a new one started since I graduated, but which I definitely would have made use of:
Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
Journal of Theological Studies
All of these were on my list, and all were marked as tier 1 except for two, which I've changed.
Hi Phil,
Here's another one to make sure it's in Tier 1 if it isn't already:
Church History: Studies in Christianity and Culture It has great and ground-breaking articles, and is often cited. I'm reading one right now called "How Firm a Foundation: Martin Bucer's Historical Exegesis of the Psalms" by R. Gerald Hobbs, Church History Vol. 53, No. 4 (Dec., 1984), pp. 477-491. It has been around since 1932. It's up to volume 83 now. Try to get all the back volumes going back to Volume 1. Thanks!
Great! Yes, I'd second that. Anything that is more rounded and academic than existing offering would be good. I think there'd be more demand in the UK market from academics for that.
It was on the list, but I moved it to a priority 1.
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Phil, you've been incredibly helpful in terms of updating us about the existence of your list concerning academic journals and material of interest to Anglicans. Are you able to issue general updates concerning whether progress is being made re. obtaining some of the journals specified on this thread? Do you expect the journals to come on board one at a time, or might we Anglicans/Episcopalians (and supporters) be fortunate to learn of multiple journals being added to the Master or Academic bundles at some stage? I'm just curious how long the discussions with the publishers take, and whether academic publishers are keen to publish through the Logos platform.
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