Reading Books Offline
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I think there is a bug in the program's latest update that may be affecting many of us with crashes. I follow Dave Dunkin on Twitter and he mentioned something about a memory bug. I was frustrated with the app failing on me and was very critical today and then saw how some of the other iphone Bible app users were showing him some support and encouragement and felt convicted for my negativity. So here's to you Logos and Dave for producing what is going to be a great app. I do feel for you having to deal with Apple's ridiculous app store approval stuff. If I put out a typo on my web site I just update it immediately. If the app store gets a bug that isn't found until its too late then its too late. That must really STINK big time!! And then you have to let it wait till you can fix it and then resubmit it and wait for them to approve which could take days to weeks for no good reason.
Just to offer as others have, I would be happy to bang on a beta version and submit my comments only to you to help out.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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SWEET! I love that this feature was released as my Christmas Present (64G iPod Touch) arrived!
BUG notice: Summa Theologica English won't copy.
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OK, perhaps I'm naive, but I though "offline reading" meant that I could read the book without a wireless connection. Today I discovered that this assumption was wrong.
I was out visiting and had some downtime. I pulled out my iPod Touch (32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel", which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon on top of the cover art in my Library. I had no connection, and yet ever page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book Logos could not load the specified book".
This is very annoying for two reasons. First, this is not exactly "offline" reading. Why "download" a resource if it's then useless? Second, why do I have to dismiss this error message for every single page that I flip to (I could read additional pages for a while, but eventually reached a completely white screen)?
I hope both of the behaviors are bugs that will be corrected.
Regards,
Steve
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Steve Brannon said:
I was out visiting and had some downtime. I pulled out my iPod Touch (32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel", which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon on top of the cover art in my Library. I had no connection, and yet ever page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book Logos could not load the specified book".
That sounds like you had a download problem. Try downloading it again and then turn off the wifi.
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I am having the same issue also. I just bought a 3G Ipod touch 36 Gig and it will not download any books to use offline. Every time I turn offline on, within about 15 - 20 seconds I get kicked out of the Logos app. This sounds like the problem a few other people have posted here. Maybe it is related to the latest version. I got the Ipod touch mainly to use the Logos 4 program on the go. I am sure they will resolve the issue eventually. Until then I am glad that at the Church I attend they have wifi.
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Mike Aubrey said:Steve Brannon said:
I was out visiting and had some downtime. I pulled out my iPod Touch (32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel", which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon on top of the cover art in my Library. I had no connection, and yet ever page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book Logos could not load the specified book".
That sounds like you had a download problem. Try downloading it again and then turn off the wifi.
I connected, 'downloaded' the KJV (which did not seem to take very long, but the down-arrow icon appeared for a bit, and then the airplane icon) then turned off my WiFi connection (on the iPod, not my router). I then went back into Logos, dismissed the warnings about not being able to connect, etc. Then navigated to my library.
The KJV was there, so I clicked on it. That was met with the error popup "Error loading book... Logos could not load the specified book." I dismiss that, and there is no KJV but rather another book that I had been reading the last time I was connected.
I cannot access the KJV unless I reconnect to my WiFi. I continue to wonder how many others are experiencing this problem, and if the Logos team is working on this.
Steve
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Steve Brannon said:
I cannot access the KJV unless I reconnect to my WiFi. I continue to wonder how many others are experiencing this problem, and if the Logos team is working on this.
Logos said a few days ago that they'd fixed the download problems in a new version (I think 1.2.1) and submitted it to Apple for approval. As of yet, I've not received the update. Have you?
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Hi Mark,
I received the update here in the US yesterday.
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Yes Mark it was available Thursday late or early Friday in the US... it has fixed my problems.
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As suggested in previous sections, I cleared all of my downloaded books and then did another download. I am using an Ipod Touch, 32Gb, with the latest update. I turned off my wifi and went to my library and all of the books I downloaded were there. I was probably confused in the reading tab, it showed some of the books that I previously opened; my fault for thinking they were part of the downloaded books.
I did have to open the books from my library to get them to show up in the reading section.
One problem is in the Revised Standard Version Bible - the quick scroll bar does not work 100%. You can scroll up to Ester 10 and that is where is stops jumping to the correct section. You can use the scroll bar to go further but it will show Ester 10. Using the verse button works fine; entering the verse into the search box does not work. For example: you can use the vese button and select PS, select chapter 23, verse 6 and it will go there. If you touch the screen to bring up the seach section, it shows Ester 10. I can scroll to Ps 25. If you enter Psalm 25 in the search box, you get an error loading book. You get the same error for all entries.
I tried this with other books and got the same results. I turned the wifi on and retried it and the entry function now works. So the verse search by entering the specific verse into the search function only works when the wifi is on?0 -
Steve Brannon said:
OK, perhaps I'm naive, but I though "offline reading" meant that I could read
the book without a wireless connection. Today I discovered that this
assumption was wrong.I was out visiting and had some downtime. I pulled out my iPod Touch
(32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel",
which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon
on top of the cover art in my Library. I had no connection, and yet ever
page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book Logos
could not load the specified book".Steve, I had the same problem until I downloaded each book and then opened them while I had my wifi connection. Once I turned off my wife connection and checked, all of my books worked fine. I don't know if this will help but give it a try. I do have the latestes update - 1.2.1
Lynn
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I downloaded version 1.2.1 this afternoon, and all appears to be working at this time.
I don't know how Logos announces new versions or the enhancements, but somehow I keep missing them ;-)
Thanks for everyone's help.
Steve
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Steve, Logos does not announce it... Logos builds the app, then submits it to Apple for approval, and apple posts it... but you can set your phone to look for updates to the apps or you can manually search things... this particular app was submitted to apple on Monday about 10pm Logos time... it became available about that same time four days later.
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Ryan,
Every time I try to set any book to be available off line nothing happens and the app crashes. Anyone else having this issue?
Paul Henry
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Paul, which version of the app are you running?
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Hello Kelly,
I'm running the latest, 1.2.1. Seems every time I try to set any book to read off line, after about 30 seconds the APP shuts down without downloading anything. It will reboot without any apparent other problems. Strange.
Paul
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Dan,
I believe the mute analogy is a good description; it just stops the information from being updated. Until I did that, I was getting access to my entire library which confused me.
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Sorry about that Paul, go ahead and sync your phone, that will send the data to Logos. They are aware of your issue since you have posted it here. I am certain that one of them will say something here shortly.0
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Lynn Hinman said:
So the verse search by entering the specific verse into the search function only works when the wifi is on?
Navigation by typing a Bible reference is not supported offline at this time.
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Paul Henry said:
Every time I try to set any book to be available off line nothing happens and the app crashes.
This is a known issue that we are working on. It affects some users but not others.
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I purchased my iphone Friday Jan. 1 and downloaded the app. I was able to download about four our five books for offline reading. On about the fifth book the app began crashing during download. I deleated and reinstalled the app, losing the books downloaded. From that point on I have not been able to download any books. I have synced the app program with itunes. God speed on working out the fix.
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I would think that this is a very basic function of a bible, and an absolute must have... am I wrong?
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Is(will) offline reading supported in the web version?
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It appears that with the latest update (1.2.2), the "downloaded but unopened book would not open in offline mode" bug is still there.
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I had trouble updating to version 1.2.2 yesterday. I had to delete the app from my phone and computer, then download the newest version onto my computer, then sinc my phone with itunes. This intalled the updated version (1.2.2) . Then when I tried to download books for offline reading, I would get the airplane logo in my library but the books were not available offline. Then I turned airplane mode off, opened the app, opened the book I wanted to download, navigated to a few different points in the book, and then initiated the download. This process worked for me. All of the books that were opened in the app before beginning the download are now available for offline reading.
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Amy Leung said:
It appears that with the latest update (1.2.2), the "downloaded but unopened book would not open in offline mode" bug is still there.
Hi Amy,
Does this occur with a specific book or any book you've tried to download for offline mode?
Thanks,
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ShikaiRonniePoon said:
Is(will) offline reading supported in the web version?
It is unlikely due to the significant technical challenges with offline web apps.
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Dave,
I updated the APP this morning and the "Reading off line" seems to be working fine now. I downloaded a book, turned the phone to airplane mode and pulled up the book with no problems. turned the Airplane mode off and everything loaded backup with no problems. Really sweet to be reading a book on my phone and get back to my laptop and pull up the book and have it open up to the same page I was on while reading it from my phone. Not sure about the others that are still having trouble.
Thanks
Paul
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If the book is downloaded and available offline will it default to reading it offline first and then go online. Or will it default to accessing online unless the net is not available.
I would assume the first is true, but just wanted to ask.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0 -
Yes, I am having the same issue with the App crash while trying to download a book. I am using version 1.2.1 that was suppose to resolve this issue, but still have the problem.
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
If the book is downloaded and available offline will it default to reading it offline first and then go online.
Yes, the app will use the downloaded content before going online. You should therefore see a modest performance increase if you have a book downloaded, even if you're online.
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Gaylon, please update to 1.2.2, released yesterday.
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Gaylon said:
Yes, I am having the same issue with the App crash while trying to download a book. I am using version 1.2.1 that was suppose to resolve this issue, but still have the problem.
Update to ver 1.2.2 and see if that fixes your problem
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Dave Dunkin said:Kevin A. Purcell said:
If the book is downloaded and available offline will it default to reading it offline first and then go online.
Yes, the app will use the downloaded content before going online. You should therefore see a modest performance increase if you have a book downloaded, even if you're online.
Now this is what I call cool[H], thanks for your hard work Dave![:D]
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Anthony Etienne said:
Now this is what I call cool
, thanks for your hard work Dave!
Yes, I am starting really to like my iPhone Logos. It gets better and better.Good job Logos.
Bohuslav
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I downloaded the newest version 1.2.2 and now the books are downloaded and available offline.
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
Yes, I am starting really to like my iPhone Logos. It gets better and better.Good job Logos.
Yes this is shaping up nicely. If the publishers will cooperate this will become a great app. I think that is the only thing holding it back and of course the search function. I still would love to see the ability to search one Bible and have the list of results all show in one scrollable screen.
Next would be notes sync now that the beta of the Desktop app allows for old notes importing and the notes feature in the desktop app is much better too since 4.0a.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0 -
My wife and I just got our iPhones and this was one of the first apps I downloaded. Unfortunately I am unable to download any books so that I can read them offline. Every book I've checked has the read offline option greyed out. If anyone could provide some assistance I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
Chris
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Chris Bolton said:
Unfortunately I am unable to download any books so that I can read them offline. Every book I've checked has the read offline option greyed out.
You need to have a license for the book to be able to download it for offline use. If you don't have Logos 4, you can get it here: http://www.logos.com/basepackages.
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Dave Dunkin said:
You need to have a license for the book to be able to download it for offline use. If you don't have Logos 4, you can get it here: http://www.logos.com/basepackages.
Hey Dave, even with Logos 4 there are a some books that have the download icon (switch) greyed out. Like the NKJV and quite a few other bibles and resources; I figured this was a license thing and eventually they will be downloadable?
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Not all books can be downloaded yet for various reasons, but we're working on it.
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All books are now available for download if you have the license and the book is available on the iPhone.
(Updated for clarification on availability.)
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Dave Dunkin said:
All books are now available for download if you have the license.
NKJV will not let me turn on the Available Offline switch.
UPDATE: Working now. It might have been before, but I am always trying to slide the switch but it really has to be tapped to work right.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0 -
Will there be any plans to put offline viewing function into the web version instead of just for iPhone? I would expect at least 100 printed pages worth of content to download when I go off the network coverage area.
With the launch of Nexus-One, will there also be plans to develop an app for Android based phones?
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With the launch of Nexus-One, will there also be plans to develop an app for Android based phones?
Ditto here - will there be an app for the new Google phone?
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Dave Dunkin said:
All books are now available for download if you have the license.
Just to clarify, do you mean all the books in our library or all the books that are availabe on the iPhone can be downloaded for offline. Because there are books in my Logos 4 desktop library that are not on the iPhone yet. So I assume you meant the latter - if they are availabe for iphone and we have them in our own library then they can be downloaded for offline use.
One example is that NAC. It is not on my iPhone.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0 -
Dave Dunkin said:
All books are now available for download if you have the license.
Books that don't work:
Summa Theologica (English)
Church Administration
131 Christians Everyone Should Know
Comical Doctrine
Also- in a possibly related note: all of these say "no cover" and I know at least Summa has a cover. I can view them fine on-ilne, but they get a resource not available message sometimes (and other times- nothing happens). Version 1.2.2 built Dec 31 16:51:39. I have gigs of free space, so that's not an issue...
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Matt B said:Dave Dunkin said:
All books are now available for download if you have the license.
Books that don't work:
Summa Theologica (English)
Church Administration
131 Christians Everyone Should Know
Comical Doctrine
Just so you know, these all (except summa, which I don't have in my library) work for me. I can download them. One thing that you might want to make sure is that you are not trying to swipe the button. It seems a little finicky. If you tap the button it works better than trying to swipe it.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0 -
Kevin A. Purcell said:
Just to clarify, do you mean all the books in our library or all the books that are availabe on the iPhone can be downloaded for offline. Because there are books in my Logos 4 desktop library that are not on the iPhone yet. So I assume you meant the latter - if they are availabe for iphone and we have them in our own library then they can be downloaded for offline use.
Right, all books available on the iPhone are now downloadable if you have a license for that book. We continue to work with publishers for permission to deliver more books to the iPhone.
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