4.0b Beta 1 Available

Bradley Grainger (Logos)
Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,969

Logos 4.0b Beta 1 (v4.02.3.4945) is now available for testing. For important beta testing information, see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8883.aspx

New Features

  • Import notes, highlighting and favorites from LDLS3. To start the import, enter one of the following commands in the command box
    • NOTE: Before importing notes, please read the important instructions about importing from LDLS3
    • import notes
    • import highlighting
    • import favorites
    • import all (imports all three types listed above)
  • Added Parallel Resource drop-down menu in resource toolbar
  • Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results
  • Added Graph Search Results to Morph Search when all searched resources are Bibles
  • Added “Speed search” to Bible search, which is now the default
  • Added an “Update to current snapshot” context menu option to saved layouts, which replaces the saved layout with the current layout.
  • Added a button to the Search Panel toolbar to create a new Visual Filter document from the search
  • Added “Adjust plan” feature to reading plans. If you are behind, you can right-click on a day and select “Adjust plan from here”, which pushes everything back so that you start reading on that day.
  • Added domain and subdomain to the Louw-Nida search analyis group header
  • Added an access key for opening the customize menu on the home page (Alt+C)
  • Added Bibles-only search index
  • There are now different settings for auto bookmarks, user defined favorite bookmarks, and search bookmarks for more control over visual bookmark settings
  • Adding “Default Sans Serif” font option to the Settings panel
  • External links can be dragged to the Favorites panel
  • Copy Bible Verses Global Shortcut is now shown in Program Settings
  • Changed layout of reference range picker in Bible Search, Morph Search, and Reading Plan
  • Each unique term in a search query is now highlighted with a different color
  • Input boxes will try to provide valid Bible reference ranges instead of doing nothing (e.g. “mt 28:18-22” will parse to Mt 28:18-20)
  • User-defined collections now have their own section (separate from Series) in Search range picker
  • Implicit Series are now included as options in the Cited By panel menu (disabled by default)
  • Added Alt+C keyboard shortcut to open/close home page Customize drop-down menu

Bug Fixes


Known Issues

  • Basic Search doesn't search non-Bibles when searching a collection
  • Opening Bible Word Study can crash the application
  • Entering "lemma:" in Morph Search can crash the application; workaround: launch the morph search from the context menu
  • Every Bible Speed Search creates a new search history item
  • Left/Right arrows don’t use currently-selected parallel resource set
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Comments

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    How to Join the Beta

    Run the special beta installer here: http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/InstallerBeta/Logos4Setup.exe

    Bradley, when I run this I get the message: "Logos Bible Software is up-to-date" Nothing else seems to happen and L4 reports 4.0a SR-2 for version number.

    EDIT: Mine is already installing too now.

    BTW, the update toolbar for L3 worked very, very fast for all my notes. I wonder what it actually did.

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭

    same here... don't use the notes feature, but love the sound of the update snapshot feature....

     

    Update - downloading now!!!

     

    Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    Does this install cause a complete re-index?I'm away for a few days and only have my netbook with me. I never index with this computer.

  • Terry Poperszky
    Terry Poperszky Member Posts: 1,576

    Does this install cause a complete re-index?I'm away for a few days and only have my netbook with me. I never index with this computer.

    Based on the time estimates I am seeing, it isn't a complete index

     

    From the notes: Added Bibles-only search index

     

     

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭

    Update was smooth. Imports all seemed to go quickly. No problems at this time. It is indexing now with about 59 minutes left.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 879

    First glance at notes importing isn't very pleasing.

    Outlining is lost.

    The old note title becomes the first line of the note text.

    The new note title is the first few lines of the location of the note.  If I had wanted to highlight that text, I would have added the note to a selection in the first place.

    Font changed to Default everywhere, loosing my face and size settings.

    Special symbols sometimes render as boxes.

    Text color lost.

    Spacing is tighter between paragraphs (but I actually prefer that).

  • Terry Poperszky
    Terry Poperszky Member Posts: 1,576

    It is indexing now with about 59 minutes left.

     

    Mine finished in just under an hour.

     

     

  • Terry Poperszky
    Terry Poperszky Member Posts: 1,576

    Added an “Update to current snapshot” context menu option to saved layouts, which replaces the saved layout with the current layout.

    Not seeing, this. 

     

     

     

     

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭

    Added an “Update to current snapshot” context menu option to saved layouts, which replaces the saved layout with the current layout.

    Not seeing, this. 

     

     

    Right click on the named layout and it's there:

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    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭

    Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

    Thanks for this, but if I have a lot of markup, the arrow button often appears not to work.  I think it's not scrolling the page when the next markup is within ~10 lines from the top (the reference box is updating, but the screen doesn't realign to that verse).  It was very confusing at first.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 879


    Added an “Update to current snapshot” context menu option to saved layouts, which replaces the saved layout with the current layout.

    Not seeing, this. 

     

     


     

    It's there for me.

  • Rick Goettsche
    Rick Goettsche Member Posts: 42 ✭✭

    I don't plan on jumping on the beta until we reach the RC stage, but I have to admit that I really like some of the new features being added. I know a couple are ones that many (including myself) specifically asked for, and there are several that I think will be really nice. I didn't know I wanted them until I saw them! Good work guys! Look forward to seeing how the beta progresses.

  • Terry Poperszky
    Terry Poperszky Member Posts: 1,576

    Right click on the named layout and it's there:

     

    Well, that was strange. Windows 7 just blue screened. I have the context menu now that I am booted back up. Thanks Todd

     

     

  • Francis
    Francis Member Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭

    Importing crashes on my computer. I get the "this program stopped working" message from Windows 7. It looks for a solution, does not find any and shut down Logos 4. I restarted the PC but it made no difference.

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,799

    Francis said:

    Importing crashes on my computer. I get the "this program stopped working" message from Windows 7. It looks for a solution, does not find any and shut down Logos 4. I restarted the PC but it made no difference.

    I get the same thing. Make sure to provide your log file.

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    Mine also "crashed" during the import of the notes etc. It asked to do the M$ error report.

    I re-bootef the PC and all was well - Favorites imported, highlighting available etc.

    I'm running XP SP3 etc

    Steve F

    (Sorry, Phil, I forgot to log it).

    Regards, SteveF

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    My indexing just finished but importing is taking a very, very long time, and synchronization is running continuously. I have 81 note files and I'm watching them come on my files list.Ah, the last one just finished.

    The lesson is, don't import notes before indexing finishes, I guess.

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    Added Parallel Resource drop-down menu in resource toolbar

    This looks pretty good, Bradley. However it seems incomplete at this time.

    1. For example, there are no parallel resources for a number of my Greek lexicons (BDAG, ANLEX, LN, EDNT, Newman, TLNT, Lexham, etc). I have it on the TDNT and WSNTDICT but the results there are strange. It lists my collection Greek Lexicons but only six lexicons are listed (no scrolling). I have 18 resources in that collection.

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    The situation with my Hebrew lexicons is worse. I don't have many of them open, but my enhanced BDB shows parallel resources but just 2 of the 22 in my Hebrew Lexicons collection:

    image

    BTW: the way a Hebrew-Greek resource is handled is very nice. Example: NASB Hebrew-Aramaic-Greek Dictionaries which is a single volume:

    image

    You might also note that the Hebrew side reports a different set of resources than I got for the enhanced BDB.

    I admit I don't know how Logos is generating these parallel resource associations, but if you are using my collections, there is something not working quite as expected, and in some cases not at all.

    2. I also have no parallel associations for any of my Bible dictionaries: ABD, NBD, ISBE, Rev, etc.

     

     

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Russ Quinn
    Russ Quinn Member Posts: 711 ✭✭

    I received a Run Time error when I clicked Finish at the end of the installation process.

    However, the program opens fine and has finished indexing so I don't know if that is going to be a problem or not.

     

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    import highlighting

    My highlights do import (thanks!).

    However, there is no display on hover-over of the highlight name (as in L3). Also, not all of my highlight styles are present in the Highlighting drop-down. This means there are highlights I used to indicate something, but I can't always remember what it was. Nor am I able to continue to use the same styles in future work, since my highlighting schemes aren't imported.

    So I'm glad it worked, but I'm disappointed it didn't work like I was hoping.

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    My notes did not import.

    I followed the directions to upgrade my notes in L3.

    I typed 'Import Notes' in the command bar and hit return. Nothing seemed to happen. I got no messages, and I have no new note files under my File menu.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Fred Greco
    Fred Greco Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Added Parallel Resource drop-down menu in resource toolbar

    This looks pretty good, Bradley. However it seems incomplete at this time.

    1. For example, there are no parallel resources for a number of my Greek lexicons (BDAG, ANLEX, LN, EDNT, Newman, TLNT, Lexham, etc). I have it on the TDNT and WSNTDICT but the results there are strange. It lists my collection Greek Lexicons but only six lexicons are listed (no scrolling). I have 18 resources in that collection.

    Bradley,

    It would be very nice if you could give even the shortest of descriptions on these new features.  I can't find any of the "parallel resource toolbars" after opening a bunch of resources.  It is very frustrating to have to play "find the needle in the haystack" to see if it works.  You did not say which resources, where we should look to click, or how we would implement it.  The result is frustration, that borders (to be honest) on "I don't really care what the feature is."

    Please help.

    By the way, what does this mean?

    [quote]Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

    Sounds useful, but I have no idea what it means, and I am not about to play a guessing game for a couple of hours to figure it out.  A nice two sentence description would be great, and save many people a lot of time.

    Fred Greco
    Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
    Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    I can't find any of the "parallel resource toolbars" after opening a bunch of resources. 

    I found that I had to have a resource open for a bit before the parallel button came up (syncing maybe?). You can see what it looks like below (the two parallel lines on the resource bar next to the three circle deal):

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    Probably the first place to look for this is with your Bibles.

    Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

    See below for one example. There will be a new button next to the up/down arrow on the resource bar. Clicking on it tells you what levels are available to navigate by. Choose one and the up/down arrow will go to the next one of those. The example shows I've selected 'Highlight'. When I click on the down arrow it took me to the next highlighted text it found. This will be real handy for search results, restoring the capability we had in 3.0 to click thru search results.

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    This is not to say your suggestion to Bradley isn't a good one.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,798

    Just an overall comment: great added functionality and many thanks for the responses to the user requests. The 4.0a update was good. 4.0b will make a lot of people smile.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,969

     I can't find any of the "parallel resource toolbars" after opening a bunch of resources. 

    The "Parallel Resources" icon will only show up (in 4.0b Beta 1) if you have created a custom collection that includes the current resource. This may change in future beta releases.

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    [quote]Resources support navigating by data type levels, highlighting, and search results

    Sounds useful, but I have no idea what it means, and I am not about to play a guessing game for a couple of hours to figure it out.

    Click the arrow next to "Article" in most resource panels to access this feature.

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  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    Bradley, I just read through your warning. Can't respond there, so I'm asking here.

    Do I read that it is safe to allow a 4.0a SR-2 machine to sync with a 4.0b B-1 machine?

    The warnings about not sharing documents I take to refer to copying between machines, not syncing between machines.

    Right?

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome, Bradley. Thank you! This has lots of important new features people have been asking for, and nice to see you guys are pretty much on track with the "missing features coming soon."

    One question: has the ability to select and copy text from anywhere (search results, guides, resource info panels, etc.), like L3 could do, made it onto the "missing features coming soon" list internally? We'd love to see it on the web page so we can get an idea when to expect it. People keep asking for it. Here's the latest. And we'd like to assure them that yes the Logos people know about this request and are planning to put this feature back in...

    Thanks!

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭

    Wow, it's great. It looks you really want to keep the rocket speed of work there in Logos. Good. I like it [:)]. Going immediately to install Beta... so pardon me for now...

    Bohuslav

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm noticing 4.0b is even faster still -- especially Passage Guide. Way to go! Keep up the good optimization work; it's very much appreciated.

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