Logos Now
There is a banner icon on the homepage for an $8.99/mo subscription, but the link doesn't go anywhere yet. I have only had Collector's for a few weeks - maybe I will have to return it with a subscription at that price (it says "SuperCharge your base package," but I'm not sure what that means).
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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What's the difference between Logos Now & Verbum Now? Will they diverge?
How does the release of any new software features interact with the open betas?
I'm still not clear on the path to ownership for those datasets that are not online only...
I appreciate the discussion. Some of it is becoming clearer.
How does the release of any new software features interact with the open betas?
The new data and features will not be part of the normal beta process AFAIK. The routine betas for Logos 6 will continue to test improvements to the existing program and any enhancements Faithlife has planned for Logos 6 already.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
What's the difference between Logos Now & Verbum Now? Will they diverge?
Very little now, expect for access to app.verbum.com instead of app.logos.com. They will diverge more in the future.
How does the release of any new software features interact with the open betas?
We're doing private betas for new Logos Now releases. There may be opportunity for others to participate.
I'm still not clear on the path to ownership for those datasets that are not online only...
Ownership will be available in the future as part new base packages and crossgrades. Some items will likely be held back for Now (likely, things that are open-ended and ever-growing), but the bulk of things should be ownable at some point.
Thank you Bruce, Mark, Phil, and others, for helping to clarify some of the questions I've had. I think I'm in now. I think the only small issue I have remaining is:
What's the difference between Logos Now & Verbum Now? Will they diverge?Very little now, expect for access to app.verbum.com instead of app.logos.com. They will diverge more in the future.
Will there be a package that covers both options? An all access pass for a bit more, $11.99 or $12.99 that includes access to Logos/Verbum/Noet NOW?
Will there be a package that covers both options? An all access pass for a bit more, $11.99 or $12.99 that includes access to Logos/Verbum/Noet NOW?
We've already given some thought to this, particularly for bilingual users who may want English and German, for example. But the same applies to Logos and Verbum (and Noet). We don't have a solution yet, but we'll definitely keep it in mind as the desire for multiple subscriptions because more likely. Right now, there's nothing to gain by subscribing to both.
Poof! The link is gone. Late April fools.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
You saw a premature posting. Try this link https://www.logos.com/product/50138/logos-now
Don't return you base package for this. It just augments the base package.
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What!? Is this new? Does this mean that the base packages are now considered static and will only receive bug fixes?
More info coming soon, but to answer your question:
Logos 6 users will continue to receive free updates to their software: bug fixes, performance enhancements, improvements to existing features, and updates to their resources, datasets, media collections, and interactives. Logos Now subscribers, in addition to these things, will receive access to a variety of new categories of ever-growing content—datasets, media collections, and interactives—as well as early access to new features. Now subscribers will also receive access to the brand new Logos web app and will enjoy other membership benefits like exclusive offers, special discounts, and more.
This is an exciting new step for Faithlife. Logos Now looks very promising.
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
Hmm $9/month for what exactly? Not sure the value of this.
What is Logos Now?
What do you get with Logos Now?
What does the first release include?
We'll continue to add more value to it over time. More details forthcoming.
And yet -- there is the promise that updates to the base packages will continue. So -- I'm a little confused. Is a web based app the future of logos, or... ?? If it is, then I'll stop investing now, and start working on building a library elsewhere.
Russ
Faithlife is committed to still provide updates to base packages. Based on that I'm going to continue to invest.
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
I am reminded of a line from the musical "Damn Yankees":
"What Lola wants, Lola Gets"
Except the subject has changed:
"What Logos wants, Logos gets."
Sadly, in the musical, Lola was the devil's assistant. I have not yet decided whether to hop on the "Logos Now" bandwagon.
Blessings,
Floyd
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I think you've got it wrong. It's "What the users want, the users get." :-)
Many of you want one-time purchase, downloadable software with offline use. You get that now, and you'll continue to get it.
Another user -- the type who uses Pandora or Spotify instead of buying albums, who watches Netflix instead of buying DVDs, and who uses Google Docs instead of Microsoft Word -- wants everything online, in the cloud, accessible with a simple log-in from whatever device they happen to be using. We are just expanding our offerings to support these people, too.
We can and will continue to support the single-transaction, downloadable software model. It's where the majority of our customers are, and we plan to support it indefinitely.
Here's the problem with that analogy: I can get the same thing in a "to own" format as in a "to rent" format for all of the examples you listed. CDs, DVDs, etc. -or- streaming. With Logos Now, that is not true. I would happily pay to own several of the new functional features / datasets in Logos Now, but that is not an option.
Here is a functional question: If I purchase a Logos Now subscription and want to use one of the subscription-only features, can I do so if I am not on the internet and/or my internet connection is down? Correspondingly do those features require internet connectivity for licensing (every time they're used), for actual functionality (i.e. the function resides in the cloud), or both?
Thanks,
Donnie