Deleted Personal Books still in Library

https://wiki.logos.com/Hiding_Books

I believe that, like all other resources, you must "hide" the books to get rid of them. It is my understanding that the personal book builder tool is used to create personal books, not to manage them.

Sarel Slabbert

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/685697#Comment_685697

Thanks. Would have preferred if you could completely delete them.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/685699#Comment_685699

Thanks. Would have preferred if you could completely delete them.

Hiding them does delete them. The "hiding" terminology is a misnomer. Any book that is hidden is removed from the disk. Purchased books can be restored using the Hidden Resources section of the Program Settings window. Personal Books must be recompiled after hiding if you want to restore them---they do not appear in the Hidden Resources list.

Edit: I was wrong about the marked out section above. That's how it should work. How it does work is described by Don below.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/685704#Comment_685704

If you remove them from the Personal Book pane, then Hide them, restart, unhide them, then restart, they are gone for good. And, you don't have a bunch of unnecessary books piling up in your hidden books pane.

This has been known ever since PBs came out - it's amazing Logos has never fixed this.

JohnB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/685706#Comment_685706

Thanks!!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/685706#Comment_685706

Thank You. It worked for me. [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/685706#Comment_685706

If you remove them from the Personal Book pane, then Hide them, restart, unhide them, then restart,

don't 'unhide' if you previously upload'ed the book to the server (it will be downloaded again)
restart isn't needed on v6.3+

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728204#Comment_728204

If you remove them from the Personal Book pane, then Hide them, restart, unhide them, then restart,

don't 'unhide' if you previously upload'ed the book to the server (it will be downloaded again)

restart isn't needed on v6.3+

I think the unhiding is the problem. If you delete the book it should be deleted. I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728208#Comment_728208

I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

Agree. Also, "hiding" is a misnomer. The user is ARCHIVING the resource as the license is maintained.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728232#Comment_728232

I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

Agree. Also, "hiding" is a misnomer. The user is ARCHIVING the resource as the license is maintained.

Agreed. There should simply be a "remove from device" option for Logos books, and an additional option of "delete" for personal books.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728208#Comment_728208

I think the unhiding is the problem. If you delete the book it should be deleted. I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

It makes sense when you consider the deleting of the book from the license server takes the same effort as transferring a book license.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728461#Comment_728461

I think the unhiding is the problem. If you delete the book it should be deleted. I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

It makes sense when you consider the deleting of the book from the license server takes the same effort as transferring a book license.

I didn't realize the time factor. If that is the case I totally understand why there is only the hiding option.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728464#Comment_728464

I didn't realize the time factor. If that is the case I totally understand why there is only the hiding option.

It would have been nice to have had a warning about deleting uploaded books. I started out by experimenting with creating Personal Books. Like others, I uploaded several test books before I found out they could not be deleted. If only I had been content to leave it on my local machine.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728461#Comment_728461

I think the unhiding is the problem. If you delete the book it should be deleted. I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

It makes sense when you consider the deleting of the book from the license server takes the same effort as transferring a book license.

For a personal book?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728485#Comment_728485

I think the unhiding is the problem. If you delete the book it should be deleted. I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

It makes sense when you consider the deleting of the book from the license server takes the same effort as transferring a book license.

For a personal book?

I believe that is what he is saying. As I said above, this is new to me but perhaps an employee would have to make the change manually.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728581#Comment_728581

Oh Man, I hope they are working on fixing this issue. I deleted a personal book that was tagged horribly now I guess it permanent in my library? Do we have to call technical service to have this removed? As any one got a hold on this?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728678#Comment_728678

I deleted a personal book that was tagged horribly now I guess it permanent in my library?

Did you realize that you can fix the tags in your personal book and then rebuild it with the corrections? Also, when you hide the book you will not see it again in your library unless you unhide it.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728698#Comment_728698

I deleted a personal book that was tagged horribly now I guess it permanent in my library?

Did you realize that you can fix the tags in your personal book and then rebuild it with the corrections? Also, when you hide the book you will not see it again in your library unless you unhide it.

Hi Bruce

I can't even edit the personal book because it longer exist on my "Personal Books" settings. I deleted the PB from within but it continues to show up in my Logos Library every time I log back into the logos server. In the meantime I have to hide it. That is the only solution.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728581#Comment_728581

I think the unhiding is the problem. If you delete the book it should be deleted. I hate the hiding methodology. Inefficient and doesn't make much sense....

It makes sense when you consider the deleting of the book from the license server takes the same effort as transferring a book license.

For a personal book?

I believe that is what he is saying. As I said above, this is new to me but perhaps an employee would have to make the change manually.

Perhaps that is the same logic that deleted notes files never actually get deleted?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728884#Comment_728884

Hi David,

I think you can delete notes in your account page in the Logos website. Look to the far left and click on the link "My Documents".

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728883#Comment_728883

Hi Bruce

I can't even edit the personal book because it longer exist on my "Personal Books" settings. I deleted the PB from within but it continues to show up in my Logos Library every time I log back into the logos server. In the meantime I have to hide it. That is the only solution.

Henry, let me take a few minutes to try to see if we are talking about the same thing. First, you actually can't "delete" a book. You can "hide" it but not "delete" it. I assume that is what you did. Read here for more information on how this works - http://wiki.logos.com/Hiding_Books This will explain things in detail.

If you hid the book you are referring to you would not be able to edit it unless you chose to "unhide" the book. At that time you would be able to edit it as you wished.

Let me know if this helps or if you need some more clarification.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728889#Comment_728889

Hi Bruce

I can't even edit the personal book because it longer exist on my "Personal Books" settings. I deleted the PB from within but it continues to show up in my Logos Library every time I log back into the logos server. In the meantime I have to hide it. That is the only solution.

Henry, let me take a few minutes to try to see if we are talking about the same thing. First, you actually can't "delete" a book. You can "hide" it but not "delete" it. I assume that is what you did. Read here for more information on how this works - http://wiki.logos.com/Hiding_Books This will explain things in detail.

If you hid the book you are referring to you would not be able to edit it unless you chose to "unhide" the book. At that time you would be able to edit it as you wished.

Let me know if this helps or if you need some more clarification.

Hi Bruce,

It was actually a personal book I deleted from my Personal Book Library. After the book was built and tagged, I noticed that the book wasn't tagged correctly so I deleted it. However, the personal book remained in my Logos library where all my other purchases are located. Essentially the only thing I can do is hide it. So I'm hiding a personal book and thus when I unhide it will appear again in my Logos Library but not in my Personal Book Library. I think somehow it cling onto the server. Because It won't download when I'm off line but immediately when I'm online the book will automatically be downloaded into my Logos Library. I hope I'm making sense. Below you will see the Personal Book I tried to create by Dr. J. Vernon McGee that is stuck in my Logos Library but is no longer in my Personal Books Library.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728901#Comment_728901

It was actually a personal book I deleted from my Personal Book Library.

Below you will see the Personal Book I tried to create by Dr. J. Vernon McGee that is stuck in my Logos Library but is no longer in my Personal Books Library.

For clarification: The book is shown in your Library, but not in your Personal Book Builder Tool. The PBB Tool is where you create personal books. There isn't anything called a "personal book library."

After the book was built and tagged, I noticed that the book wasn't tagged correctly so I deleted it.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean that it "wasn't tagged correctly"?

Essentially the only thing I can do is hide it. So I'm hiding a personal book and thus when I unhide it will appear again in my Logos Library but not in my Personal Book Library. I think somehow it cling onto the server.

Until more recently, only metadata (book name, author, etc.) synced with the server, but in recent versions users can now sync compiled personal books. This is done manually AFTER the book is compiled. Did you manually sync the personal book?

What happens when you try to open this resource? Does a book open, or do you get a warning?

Did you hide the book and restart your computer before unhiding?

Why are you unhiding the book if you want it deleted?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728935#Comment_728935

Out of curiosity, what do you mean that it "wasn't tagged correctly"?

After the book was built it didn't link some verses. The text when converted was not spaced properly.

Until more recently, only metadata (book name, author, etc.) synced with the server, but in recent versions users can now sync compiled personal books. This is done manually AFTER the book is compiled. Did you manually sync the personal book?

I'm taking it that's what happen. I think I clicked on the "Upload" link on the Personal Book Builder Tool. Is this what you mean by "manually sync"? If by clicking this does my personal books go into my library on the Logos server?

What happens when you try to open this resource? Does a book open, or do you get a warning?

Did you hide the book and restart your computer before unhiding?

The resource will open as a normal book if unhidden. I hid the book and restarted and tried every little trick I could.

Why are you unhiding the book if you want it deleted?

I want to delete from my Library but I cant. It's no longer showing in my Personal Books.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728950#Comment_728950

After the book was built it didn't link some verses. The text when converted was not spaced properly.

The personal book builder typically works well when given a good source document. If the reference is explicit (i.e. "John 3:16"), it almost always works. When the reference is less explicit (i.e. "In verse 16 of the third chapter of the beloved disciple"), the link isn't going to work.

I think I clicked on the "Upload" link on the Personal Book Builder Tool. Is this what you mean by "manually sync"?

Yes.

If by clicking this does my personal books go into my library on the Logos server?

When you compile the .docx file, it is added to your library on the local computer. When you press the "upload" button, it will sync with the servers so that the book is available on your other computers. If you only have one computer, there is no reason to press the "upload" button. NOTE: personal books are unsupported on mobile devices.

Why are you unhiding the book if you want it deleted?

I want to delete from my Library but I cant.

The book IS "deleted" from your library when you hide it... it is NOT deleted from the servers. EDIT: The same is true when users delete note files. The "deleted" files remain on the servers, but are only shown in the "deleted" view of the website.

It's no longer showing in my Personal Books

Again, for clarification, the proper terminology is the "personal book builder tool."

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728964#Comment_728964

The book IS "deleted" from your library when you hide it... it is NOT deleted from the servers.

So once it's in the server any deleting has to be done on the Logos side I take it. I didn't know that was going to happen. ouch!

Do you know if a representative can delete the personal book from my account?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728987#Comment_728987

So once it's in the server any deleting has to be done on the Logos side I take it. I didn't know that was going to happen. ouch!

Do you know if a representative can delete the personal book from my account?

As far as I know, Faithlife hasn't addressed this issue... I think you are likely stuck... although I don't know why it should be such an issue. If you have the book hidden, it is removed from your local installation and shouldn't appear in any other installations.

FL probably does need to create a method for users to delete uploaded resources from the servers.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729005#Comment_729005

So once it's in the server any deleting has to be done on the Logos side I take it. I didn't know that was going to happen. ouch!

Do you know if a representative can delete the personal book from my account?

As far as I know, Faithlife hasn't addressed this issue... I think you are likely stuck... although I don't know why it should be such an issue. If you have the book hidden, it is removed from your local installation and shouldn't appear in any other installations.

FL probably does need to create a method for users to delete uploaded resources from the servers.

Alabama24, thanks for your follow-up. Ya hopefully they create a method in the near future.

Eli Evans (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729017#Comment_729017

Deleting personal books is on our (long and growing) list of things to address in the future. Can't say for sure how "near." In the meantime, hiding is your best option. Sorry for the inconvenience.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729888#Comment_729888

Deleting personal books is on our (long and growing) list of things to address in the future. Can't say for sure how "near." In the meantime, hiding is your best option. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Awesome!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729890#Comment_729890

Deleting personal books is on our (long and growing) list of things to address in the future. Can't say for sure how "near." In the meantime, hiding is your best option. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Awesome!

Second that!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729888#Comment_729888

Deleting personal books is on our (long and growing) list of things to address in the future.

Love it!

Tesfaye Haile

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729896#Comment_729896

My question is related tp deleting personal books

Is there any new development in this area? I am trying to delete duplicate copies of personal books that I have created. As I was amending the books I created, I usually delete the previous books before I compile the new ones within the environment of the personal book builder page. However, I discovered that the books that I deleted are still there. Deleting from wthin the persoanl book envirnomnet does not get rid of them. This week a friend who is a Logs user advised me to delete them using the setting from the tools menu. I did try to drag them to the hide the resource box and delete them from there using a right muse click. This did not work for me. In my PC I see the two options when I click the right muse. The hnuid and delete options are avaialabel. But I do not see the delete option in my iMac computer. Is there any advice you can suggest? Or do I need to wait for a better solution from Logos or is there a solution for this? Thank you

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/868607#Comment_868607

cfr

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/868607#Comment_868607

My question is related tp deleting personal books

See the discussion in this thread starting at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/99300/685697.aspx#685697 (the link to the wiki reveals the Mac shortcuts).

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/868716#Comment_868716

Hello all,

Any new news on this topic? I have (4) old Personal Books that still show up after deleting then from PBB. They still show in my resources. I just want them gone.

I've tried the tricks on this thread and nothing works.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/904922#Comment_904922

Any new news on this topic? I have (4) old Personal Books that still show up after deleting then from PBB. They still show in my resources. I just want them gone.

Can you state exactly what you have tried because deleting from the PBB tool does not work!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/904984#Comment_904984

Hello Dave,

I tried this: "If you remove them from the Personal Book pane, then Hide them, restart, unhide them, then restart, they are gone for good. And, you don't have a bunch of unnecessary books piling up in your hidden books pane."

I deleted the PBB long ago but the files still remain. They are hidden because I don't want to see them but I'd like to permanantely delete them.

I even found the physical files in:

Library > Application Support > Logos4 > Data > ResourceManager > Resources

then deleted them but they come back upon reboot.

HELP!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/904985#Comment_904985

I even found the physical files in:

Library > Application Support > Logos4 > Data > ResourceManager > Resources

Files aren't removed unless you run a special command (I forget what it is... "removed unlicensed resources" or something like that).

Were the personal books uploaded to the cloud?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/904989#Comment_904989

Hey Alabama,

Yes they were uploaded to the cloud. I tried "delete unlicensed resources" to no avail.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/904985#Comment_904985

I tried this: "If you remove them from the Personal Book pane, then Hide them, restart, unhide them, then restart, they are gone for good. And, you don't have a bunch of unnecessary books piling up in your hidden books pane."

Hey Alabama,
Yes they were uploaded to the cloud. I tried "delete unlicensed resources" to no avail.

As you uploaded them to the cloud you must keep them hidden. They will be re-downloaded when you unhide them or manually delete them.

"delete unlicensed resources" does not work with PB's.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/904995#Comment_904995

Hello Dave,

What do you mean by "or manually delete them"?

Also, are you saying since they are on the cloud they cannot be deleted ever?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/905000#Comment_905000

are you saying since they are on the cloud they cannot be deleted ever?

Yes, that is what he meant.

What do you mean by "or manually delete them"?

If you manually delete the compiled file from the inner workings (system files), the file will automatically re-download.

The only option you have left (currently) would be to try rebuilding the book and changing things to a book you do want to keep. That may not be an option, however, if you deleted the personal book builder project.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/905007#Comment_905007

are you saying since they are on the cloud they cannot be deleted ever?

Yes, that is what he meant.

They are automatically deleted from your computer when you hide them but will remain on the cloud. So keep them hidden.

What do you mean by "or manually delete them"?

Deleting the physical files in the Logos4 > Data > ResourceManager > Resources folder as you stated earlier is manual.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/905386#Comment_905386

Man, that stinks. You'd think you'd be able to delete them since they are personal documents.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/905448#Comment_905448

Thanks for the help, guys!