Saint of the Day: St. Goar...but when did he die?
So randomly noticed the St. of the day on my home screen. Today is St. Goar. After following the trail of the links to read more...
same here...
then...
Which one is right?
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'Tis not for Verbum to say ... they merely report the data as provided by any specific resource. Here they clearly considered Wikipedia to be closer to contemporary academic consensus which is what they try to do when they must speak.
575 is "traditional" but not necessarily correct: http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=3580
649 is the opinion of the "well researched" Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06606b.htm
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Dates are often argued over to such a point to absurd resulting happenstances. Take Saint Patrick. He died on March 8 or 9, but because there was such violence over the proper date it was moved to the 17th (I hate that his popular feast greatly overshadows St. Gertrude of Nevilles ). Dates going this far back can often been had to confirm. We need firm reliable information placed into general history. Occasionally two people with similar names or history can sometimes accidentally be merged together making it even more difficult to be precise about dates.
-Dan
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MJ. Smith said:
575 is "traditional" but not necessarily correct: http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=3580
649 is the opinion of the "well researched" Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06606b.htm
I figured this was the case, as far as it being uncertain.
Thank you for the links.
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Dan Francis said:
Dates going this far back can often been had to confirm. We need firm reliable information placed into general history. Occasionally two people with similar names or history can sometimes accidentally be merged together making it even more difficult to be precise about dates.
I can certainly see where discrepancies would come into play. Thanks for the response Dan
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Dan Francis said:
Dates are often argued over to such a point to absurd resulting happenstances. Take Saint Patrick. He died on March 8 or 9, but because there was such violence over the proper date it was moved to the 17th (I hate that his popular feast greatly overshadows St. Gertrude of Nevilles ). Dates going this far back can often been had to confirm. We need firm reliable information placed into general history. Occasionally two people with similar names or history can sometimes accidentally be merged together making it even more difficult to be precise about dates.
-Dan
The greatest problem with St. Patrick (I'm 1/8 Irish) is that he overshadows St. Urho (I'm 1/4 Finn). [Okay, you have to be an American on Finnish extraction to know of St. Urho who drove the grasshoppers out of Finland.]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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