Universal Windows App on Community Pricing

It's a catch 22. People won't buy devices without proper apps and people won't make proper apps because few people are buying these tablets.

Are they waiting for Jesus to come back before offering the new Windows 10 Universal Application?

I agree completely!

Someone help me understand the need for this app. If you have Logos on windows, and windows 10 is accessible on mobile devices...I would appreciate help in knowing the benefits of an app as opposed to the program.  Thanks.

A mobile app would work on less powerful machines that often have less storage as well. Think of a $100-$200 tablet, netbook, or even a phone. A mobile app would let you chose a subset of resources to install locally so you would not overload a 32GB or even a 64GB device. It would also hopefully be smaller and faster and while it might not offer every current feature, it would be designed for speed to work on the go when you might be in a situation where you want to quickly access a bible or resource. It would also hopefully be less dependent on having online access. Possibly, it might even be a great opportunity to clean up the code and get some real efficiency going.

I've heard there were 15m devices upgraded to 10 thus far.

Guessing that means this program might gain some traction in the near future

That statistic (14 million) was in the first 24 hours so it should be significantly higher now. I heard one recent rumored statistic as high as 67 million, but that hasn't been verified. The key thing will be how many tablets and smaller devices people start buying as well as how many traditional desktop/laptop users start purchasing apps from the store. A relatively small percentage did in 8, resulting in many developers such as Faithlife choosing to rely strictly on their existing desktop app. If the app store catches on in a big way, that will lead to an incentive for developers to publish more apps there. Let's hope that 10 accomplishes what 8 did not.

The mobile app would be useful for small scale study where the whole library isn't necessarily needed.  Also Windows has no Logos Reader app with lookup functionality or highlighting capabilities.  With the reader app I would like the ability to do side by side reading note taking and commentary searching while using less processor and memory.

Apologies if this shows my ignorance.  But can biblia.com work?  I wish it would stop being in beta as it seems to be a way to at least access resources from a phone if there is no app.  Has this been abandoned in a perpetual beta?  I do not know the popularity of windows phones or tablets, but I am saddened to hear that L6 wont run on it.

I just started to use Logos on Lenovo Yoga 2 tablet and, yes, Logos works fine, I have used all the tricks advised here on forums to install it. I use junction to get all my resources (more than 5000) to the SD card etc. All works well enough I can imagine I will use it  (especially when with keyboard, since Logos 6 is not touch-friendly at all)

But... my conclusion is, we still need Windows Universal App. to just do all the simple things we usually do on tablets (look-up Bible reference, plain book reading...)

I don't mind Faithlife doing all kind of little apps for iOS. I don't mind all of this is done (possibly) without all the interest research among the customers. What I don't understand is that in the situation Microsoft went so far to make it as easy to re-use the iOS/Android code as possible, Faithlife would still not produce Universal App for all the traditional Logos users (yes, traditional. I remember those days without iOS, OSX etc. Logos versions).

If not for a tiny Windows Phone/Windows Mobile market, do it for all the Windows Tablet users, not just Surface 3 pro, but all the low end 8" tablets with Windows 10 OS.

Tablet sales are in decline (including the iPad) and have been for several quarters. The area of growth is now, and is predicted to continue to be, in 2-in-1 hybrids. (http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3077817) The problem is Logos generally runs poor to just okay on such devices, which are typically smaller and lesser-powered than traditional laptops/desktops. Even on my main laptop, Logos is slow enough to get up and running that I often use alternative apps for quick verse lookups. This is clearly a problem for Logos and they could find themselves 'having missed the boat' without a valid, workable product in this arena. Web apps aren't the answer, either as too many of these products are Wi-Fi only.

My own example is just one example of where a Windows app would compliment the desktop app in cases where speed is most important. Logos posted about future changes to make the desktop version more touch friendly, and while this will be appreciated on such premium devices as the Surface Pro, it does nothing to answer the need of Logos on lesser hardware (which is the majority) and when speed is the primary need.

You said it exactly as it is. Thanks. [Y]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-releases-project-islandwood-guide,30678.html

Islandwood should make this relatively easy.

If games like Candy Crush can be ported over using this tool I would think it would be possible for nearly any application.

I for one would love to see this come true. I was a windows mobile fan and Pocket PC before that but when Logos came out with the IOS app I made the transition to IOS and love the app for reading my books. I so badly want to replace my Ipad and computer with the Surface pro 4 or Surface book but really need the app for reading to make this transition possible. Logos 6 is great for powerful studies but rather awful to try to just read a book on. Logos on IOS is great for reading books on but not for powerful study.

The idea of a Logos Windows Phone App has been out there for over 2 years now, and nothing has moved. It's obvious that the the folks at Logos and Faithlife have determined that the potential customer base doesn't justify its development. That's too bad. I really like the Windows Phone, but there's virtually nothing available for Bible study tools. As things stand currently, the best option for Windows Phone users is to use the Edge browser, and get on-line access to their Logos resources at biblia.com. At least, when you have internet connectivity you will also have access to some Bible study tools.

Yeah, I just saw this:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/26/technology/bill-gates-android-phone/index.html 

[quote]Bill Gates now uses an Android phone.

The billionaire Microsoft (MSFT, Tech30) founder told Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace he recently switched to a mobile device that runs Google's Android software.

The company officially killed off its Windows Phone line and software in July, due largely to dwindling consumer interest and a lackluster app store. In the first quarter of 2017, Windows Phones' market share was 0.1%, according to a May report from market intelligence firm IDC.

I guess a Win App would still be useful for tablets, but mine sorta died so I bought a new laptop instead.... cancelling my bid.

Is there any need for a dedicated Universal Windows App now that app.logos.com exists and is being developed?

Logos would be best serving everyone (including themselves) by migrating the mobile apps and web app to a progressive web app, which serves both needs well and then they only have to focus on a single app that will be usable on all the major platforms, including Windows 10.